Shot in the Dark

What’s Ukrainian For Motti?

History is full of parallels.

Trying to use them to predict the future is a fool’s errand. It almost never works. .

Almost.

But huimans instinctively seek out patterns; it’s evolved into our brain; it’s a survival mechanism. We see things that belong together. We find Waldo.

And the historically parallels with Finland’s 1940 “Winter War” (Talvesota) against the USSR are hard to ignore.

One Finnish historian runs down the comparisons in this long, but utterly worth-reading, Twitter thread:

John Fund:

No one disputes that Russia dwarfs Ukraine’s military — just as the Soviet forces dwarfed Finland’s in 1939. In 2020, Russia spent ten times more on its military than Ukraine did.

Nonetheless, historian William Farley recently wrote, “the Winter War offers a hopeful lesson for Ukraine, in that it is possible for a smaller country to badly bloody Russia’s nose.”

Robert Service, a veteran historian of Russia at Stanford’s Hoover Institution, told the Wall Street Journal’s Tunku Varadarajan that he thinks the Ukrainians could well lose the war eventually. But he finds it inconceivable that they will accept subjugation. “The Ukrainians have become more nationally conscious over the 20th century, and they’re a proud people who’ve seen what happened to them when they were subjugated by the U.S.S.R.,” he noted. “They had it in the early 1930s, when millions died under Stalin’s famines. They had it again in the late 1940s, after the war ended. I don’t think they’re going to let history repeat itself.”

Finland had one advantage the Ukrainians don’t – most of its frontier with Russia was dense, wooded Taiga, broken up by swampty motti that made movement of any kind difficult.

Ukraine? It’s got distance – some, anyway – and cities, which favor the defender in other ways – ways that Russia isn’t above solving with high explosives, which have their own political and military disadvantages.


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82 responses to “What’s Ukrainian For Motti?”

  1. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    Oh, f’r’shrissakes… the fantasy world that you people live in. You do know, yes? Finland lost the war. And that cutsie-pie remark about how the Soviets arriving in Helsinki didn’t occur – well, that’s because the Finns negotiated a surrender before the Soviets got there. And Vyborg (nee Viborg from Swedish days) is still Russian to this day.

    The way Russia makes war – has always made war – is frightfully bloody for the enemy as well as its own side. It takes forever to get everything in place – like the artillery units and thousands of rounds – but they are all being moved into place right now. Why do you think Zelensky is starting to make concessions?

  2. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    Putin says a lot of dumb things but all they manage to do is invading a country with a GDP of 200 billion.

    All hat and no cattle.

  3. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    Russia started moving its military into position to encircle and invade Ukraine last Autumn.
    This is a direct consequence of the Afghan disaster.
    If Russia had had nukes in 1942, half the world would be rubble, including Finland. Stalin believed that all of Western Europe were fascists in a death struggle with him to destroy the USSR, except for the units of resistance that he controlled.

  4. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    Another mindless non-sequitor from the Prince of Pusillanimous; rAT.

    I can’t understand why Pedo Joe’s military advisors haven’t drafted rAT. From what we know of him, he’s got everything they look for; low IQ; lies like a pro; self respect went out the window years ago; doesn’t know shit from shinola.

    Maybe they know he don’t look good in a dress.

  5. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    You might find this video, the newest of the series, to be helpful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDKH_FxFdrw

  6. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    It has become apparent that many readers don’t quite grasp to what extent warfare has changed since the cannon fodder days of WW1 and WW2, so just wanted to elaborate on this. Will be quite a long post but may be interesting for those that have an interest in history and war in particular.

    To illustrate how warfare has changed, consider a summary of stats from a US army release highlighting how the proportion of US expeditionary forces engaging in combat has decreased drastically between WW1 and recent wars (detailed stats below in the post, link at the bottom). In 1918, 53% of men that took part in the expedition to Europe participated in combat (with 47% in logistics or admin roles), and this then fell to 39% in WW2, similar in Korea, 35% in Vietnam, 30% in the first Gulf war and 28% in the second Gulf war (data for 2005). Currently, it would likely be even lower when you consider how warfare has changed since 2005 (drones etc): wouldn’t be surprised if we fell below 25%.
    In terms of units engaging in combats, armies used to commit entire divisions (10,000 men), and an infantry division would typically have 80% of its men committing to combat. Nowadays armies engage much smaller units (tactical battalion of around 1,000 men over a few kilometers of front), of which just 60-70% actually participate in combat.

    Essentially, the days of WW1 and WW2 where armies just needed all the bodies they could find to throw at machine gun nests are long gone. In current warfare scenarios, out of approximately 200,000 troops taking part in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, only around 50,000-60,000 would likely be destined to combat, while the rest would serve in supporting roles (ranging from intelligence, admin, supply chains, medics, cooks, military police etc…)

    Now about estimating Russian casualties: not an easy task as estimates vary greatly. Ukrainians claim to have killed 10,000 in ten days , while the Russians have been very quiet about casualty numbers. Western intelligence agencies seem to estimate the number of dead Russian soldiers at 2,000-5,000 or so for the first ten days, with low confidence on that number. Ukraine also claims to have captured 2,000 Russian troops.

    Overall, going with relatively conservative estimations, and considering there tends to be more wounded soldiers than dead ones, Russian casualties (dead, wounded or captured) are probably not far off from 10000 – 15,000 (can’t be much less; could be higher).

    So some would say that is a tiny proportion of the original Russian forces involved in this operation, which numbers close to 200,000 troops. Only, in the context of current warfare, 10-15,000 casualties out of an invading force of 200,000 is huge. Even if you account for the fact that some of the casualties will be in logistics and support troops, it’s likely that the combat units of the Russian army have suffered dreadful casualty rates already… And they have only captured 2 medium sized cities out of around 15 (Melitopol and Berdyansk in the South), and one large city out of around 10 or 12 in Ukraine (Kherson, also in the south).

    10-20% casualty rates among the entire combat forces of your expeditionary force in less than two weeks and none of the core objectives captured (considering Kharkiv, Kyiv, Sumy and Chernihiv are all within 100-150km of the Russian border), with little ground progress made outside of the initial blitz in the first 4-5 days is a dreadful result for such a military campaign. Add to that reports of two Russian generals killed in combat as well as 2 colonels… this is a disaster of rare magnitude in modern warfare. To find two US generals killed in combat (excluding car accidents etc) you’d have to go back to WW2…

    As for putting cities under siege, which is clearly what the Russians are doing: I doubt this will actually achieve anything. The Nazis did it in Leningrad and tried leveling London over several years… In the end, this just spurs hatred which increases resolve of the locals.

    This will be a war of attrition and I do not see how Russia could win this — although they could go a long way in leveling the country.

    Statistics from the report (link at the bottom):
    WW1:
    American Army force in Europe:
    53% combat
    39% Logistics
    8% HQ / Admin
    Infantry division in Europe:
    Combat: 78.5%
    Logistics: 14.5%
    HQ / Admin: 7%

    WW2:
    American Army in Europe:
    Combat: 39%
    Logistics: 45%
    HQ / Admin: 16%
    Infantry division:
    Combat: 68%
    Logistics: 14%
    HQ / Admin: 18%
    Armored division:
    Combat: 58%
    Logistics: 21%
    HQ / Admin: 21%

    Korea, 1953:
    American army (including Japan based personnel — Korea would have slightly higher combat %):
    Combat: 33%
    Logistics: 37%
    HQ / Admin: 24%
    Life support: 6%
    Infantry division in Korea:
    Combat: 62%
    Logistics: 20%
    HQ / Admin: 18%

    Vietnam, 1968:
    American army overall:
    Combat: 35%
    Logistics: 23%
    HQ / Admin: 30%
    Life support: 12%
    Infantry division:
    Combat: 58%
    Logistics: 11%
    HQ / Admin: 31%

    1st Gulf war:
    US army force
    Combat: 30%
    Logistics: 42%
    HQ / Admin: 28%
    Attack ’Stryker Brigade’
    Combat: 52%
    Logistics: 30%
    HQ / Admin: 18%
    Armored attack brigade:
    Combat: 39%
    Logistics: 29%
    HQ / Admin: 32%

    2nd Gulf War:
    American army force:
    Combat: 40%
    Logistics: 36%
    HQ / Admin: 24%

    Including civilian contractors:
    Combat: 28%
    Logistics: 40%
    HQ / Admin: 17%
    Life support: 15%

    So overall, personnel involved in combat dropped from over 50% to less than 1 in 3 since WW1. Probably around 1 in 4 to 1 in 5 now.

    https://www.armyupress.army.mil/portals/7/combat-studies-institute/csi-books/mcgrath_op23.pdf

  7. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    rAt, you ignorant gint. Instead of assing up comments, just post a link to wherever you plagiarized from.

  8. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    the fantasy world that you people live in.

    Statement based on facts not in evidence.

    I’m VERY well aware how the Winter and Continuation wars ended up

    I’m also aware how they DIDN’T end up – with tanks in Helsinki. Ever.

  9. bikebubba Avatar
    bikebubba

    I don’t know that Russia really is following its historic pattern. Last week, I was looking at images of destroyed armor in Bucha. This week, they’re evacuating civilians in Irpen, right across a canal from Bucha. So apparently in the last week, the big push to the NW of Kyiv has advanced….maybe a mile.

    At the same time, the vaunted 40 mile column of armor and supplies has been stalled a week. My take on the matter is that Russian infantry have figured out where they are, figured out that advancing is going to take a LOT of their blood, and they especially don’t want to go into the significantly wooded greenbelt between Irpen and the outskirts of Kyiv. They are well aware that every Ukrainian Simo Hayha and the Ukrainian Olympic Javelin Team are waiting there to make the roads on which they must travel (since the spring thaw is here) into a smoldering mass of destroyed vehicles and bodies.

    If you visit the aerial maps, you’ll see that in the more heavily forested north, the Russian attacks are stalling, but they’re doing better in the south, where harvested fields don’t offer nearly as much cover.

  10. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    Why do you think Zelensky is starting to make concessions?

    Of course.

    But it clearly wasn’t supposed to go this way.

  11. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    Statement based on facts not in evidence

    Hey, if your bar of success is to bloody the Russian bear’s nose, then success it is.

    But it clearly wasn’t supposed to go this way

    I’ll happily admit that I didn’t expect to see the Euros grow up. Kicking and screaming a bit, but that’s a complete surprise. From zerohedge on Sunday, The energy shock created by Russia will change energy policy and planning in coming years, in our view. The EU will soon announce its  energy roadmap and has reportedly shifted its short-term focus from decarbonization to energy security, likely relying for now on more coal, more nuclear, and gas generation, and overall allowing for more carbon emissions.

    And that doesn’t even include the assistance of a more military nature – we’re a long way from just sending helmets. I’m pretty sure Putin didn’t expect this either. Nor the Javelins.

  12. bikebubba Avatar
    bikebubba

    What concessions have actually been made? I googled it, and the only thing I found is that Zelenskyy isn’t as keen on NATO membership as he was before, which makes sense since NATO isn’t exactly rushing to provide a lot of substantive help. He may simply have taken the measure of NATO and thought “if that’s the help I’d get, let’s drop this one”. I’m personally thinking Zelenskyy ought to simply make the concessions on the condition of getting a nice complement of M1s, A-10s, and F-16s and then say “oopsie, Vlad, I lied. Just like you.”

  13. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    ^ True, bike, but I know Putin and the Russians feel aggrieved by the growth of NATO into their old “sphere of influence”. And Ukraine was a little too close.

  14. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    We are looking at the evolution from a conscript army to a professional army operating highly sophisticated equipment, which also have an increased need for logistics to support them.

    In Ukraine, the trend is going in the other direction, as guerrilla warfare relies on simple, man-portable equipment, few combatants are trained professionals, and the logistics organization for complex weapons systems is inherently impossible to maintain.

    Obviously, we are also moving towards a point where we can no longer define “armed forces”, as anybody who helps fighters could be seen as part of their logistics for an hour, and then as a civilian immediately after that. In fact, you may reach the point where the guerrilla becomes so decentralized that it can no longer be seen as a single armed force.

  15. bikebubba Avatar
    bikebubba

    jdm, I think the reality is that unless Putin really is going insane, he knew quite well that Biden wasn’t going to admit Ukraine to NATO. So that dog won’t hunt, IMO.

    I’m guessing that the invasion was a matter of pride to Putin, or if it had a proximate cause at all, it could have been simply that Zelenskyy was getting a little too close to resolving some of the corruption that has plagued Ukraine since it gained its independence.

    Think about it. A large number of the corruptocrats plaguing Ukraine are those with former major roles in the USSR, as well as many whose wealth comes from reselling Russian oil and gas. How likely is it that the Kremlin fails to be aware of and use this knowledge?

    Maybe I’m being just too darned hopeful. I saw at least one pro-Russian source that alleged Zelenskyy had become corrupt as well. That noted, the better sources I have seen seem to indicate that there was some real progress there.

  16. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    So, like Wuhan, where the US was NOT funding gain of function research, until it was, the US has NOT been funding bio-weapons labs in Ukraine…until it has been.

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/victoria-nuland-ukraine-has-biological?s=r

    Tell me again how Putin is invading a poor, gentle Democracy without provocation.

  17. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    Trump’s 2018 UN address:
    Reliance on a single foreign supplier can leave a nation vulnerable to extortion and intimidation. That is why we congratulate European states, such as Poland, for leading the construction of a Baltic pipeline so that nations are not dependent on Russia to meet their energy needs. Germany will become totally dependent on Russian energy if it does not immediately change course.
    https://www.vox.com/2018/9/25/17901082/trump-un-2018-speech-full-text

    Tell me again about Biden’s foreign policy genius.
    Every time some foreign crisis develops, Biden is like a deer in the headlights: do nothing until it is too late & then do crazy random shit.

  18. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    bike, you are thinking, guessing. could’a been’ing, and being hopeful about an ugly, bloody horrific situation that we know very little about.

    My big concern, from my first probably intemperate comment to now, is that we in the west are seeing this “war” through the eyes of westerners and not even making the slightest effort to understand, much less sympathize with countries who have their own concerns, their own problems, and their own histories. Moreover, we are overlooking, ignorantly or on purpose, the role of the US, NATO, and western Europe as to why Putin/Russia would possibly feel like they do.

    You might find this interesting. Or not. I know what my opinion is worth in the larger context of this war; I have some experience with that value in the larger context of the Kung flu.

    I appreciate you keeping this alive so as to kinda force me to think about it and try to explain it.

  19. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    Look, biological agents exist and can be weaponized to use against us. It’s ordinary common sense for us to research vaccines and counter-measures to protect our citizens in case some terrorist releases a bio-weapon on US soil.

    Unfortunately, the public is a bunch of sniveling NIMBYs who aren’t willing to have bio-weapon research labs located in the US. They’re not even willing to fund the labs, if located overseas. That’s ostrich-head-in-the-sand stupidity. The world won’t go away just because you stop looking at it.

    Some of us, the True American Patriots, decided to Do What’s Right. We set up a series of dummy corporations and payment cut-outs so that US funding didn’t go straight to the bio-lab, it went to a vendor whose grant proposal talked about curing cancer, conducted in a rented facility using employees of a third corporation . . . nothing to do with us, we don’t OWN a bio-weapon research lab in Ukraine, or Wuhan, or anywhere else. That’s Russian propaganda. The few members of Congress who asked questions received substantial donations from overseas to their personal Foundations and quit nosing around (it wasn’t even that expensive and we just tucked it into the grant funding).

    So let’s not hear anymore guff about “oh, it’s so terrible, the lies, the lies.” The truth? You can’t handle the truth. We told you comforting lies because that’s what you wanted to hear. And we kept working in secret, because that’s what we needed to do to protect your sorry a55es. Instead of criticizing those who are saving America, you ought to be giving us medals.

  20. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    “ I think the reality is that unless Putin really is going insane, he knew quite well that Biden wasn’t going to admit Ukraine to NATO. So that dog won’t hunt, IMO.”

    Emery; is that you?

    I’m guessing that Putin, unlike some knows damn well the pants shitting pedo in the WH isn’t running the show. I’m also pretty sure, unlike any of us, he knows who IS.

    But if pants shitter WAS calling the shots, there is video of him promoting the expansion of NATO, and saying explicitly that one reason to do that is to antagonize the Russians.

    This wasn’t a seat of the pants decision. There’s so much shit covered up we will never know what the trigger was.

  21. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    I highly recommend Timothy Snyder’s book “Bloodlands” to kind of give a sense about the horrible ironies and twists in history that have brought Putin to be, in the name of de-nazifying Ukraine, to be, in fact, doing the very same things that the Germans did during World War II in the same space, and all the complexities that were there as well.
    https://www.amazon.com/Bloodlands-Europe-Between-Hitler-Stalin/dp/0465031471

  22. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    GD it. Is Jen Sacky in charge of moderation in here now?

  23. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    Oh, and here’s a really interesting perspective. Putin is less Hitler invading Poland and more Mussolini invading Greece and fucking up Barbarossa. China is not happy.

    https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1501264277377884163

  24. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    JD, if *anyone* in DC told you they were testing nasty bugs for the good of the US, would you believe them?

    Do you trust this current bag of cocksuckers with a butter knife?

  25. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    Riddle me this, Patriots;

    What country overthrew Communism, removed nuclear and conventional military arms from former Soviet satellites?

    And when that happened, which countries immediately acted to move their own military and nuclear arms right up next to the borders of those (now free, former Communist) countries?

  26. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    It is also interesting to note that Putin has used a similar strategy to Nazi Germany by labelling a language group as an excuse for invasion. The Nazis spotted the propaganda opportunity provided by the Sudetenland Germans who had separated from Germany in the Middle Ages. So these Sudetenland Germans needed to be re-integrated into Germany and the Nazis provided armed Freikorps to persuade them of their oppressed state and then eventually annexed the Sudetenland which the Nazis got away with because of the Munich agreement with Great Britain. Now Putin frequently uses the existence of Russian speakers in Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania as a basis for causing discontent in these states and making claims that these Russian speakers need liberating by Russia and a heroic Putin.

    It is all very bizarre. Putin seems to be obsessed with a mythic past which is characteristic of fascist dictators and a common language spoken by people in another country is always a convenient target for such ideologues as they claim that it provides evidence for the verity of their nationalist views.

  27. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    Say, dickhead?

    You need to be more careful with who you plagiarize. The Donbas region is not only Russian speaking, they’re of Russian ancestry and alliance.

    They’ve been fighting the Ukrainian army fir 10 years to gain their independence.

    You’re an idiot.

  28. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    Comrade Twat: In an autocratic society there is no legal way to change the leader since he controls the legal process.

  29. justplainangry Avatar
    justplainangry

    I also wonder how did Ukraine came about its borders? Bueller? Bueller?

    And I also can’t stop marveling at virtue signaling propaganda – so what exactly happened to those Polish MIGS? Bueller? Bueller? We stopped buying Russian oil – 7% is a drop in the bucket for US, to be replaced by oil from Venezula and Iran, those beacons of morality and decency and under Russian thumb; and EU cuts will be gradually implemented through the rest of the year, meaning EU is still bankrolling Putins adventure. And the propaganda lovers will just lick it all up and beat their chest to show how they are sticking it to Putin. Fucking joke.

  30. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    “ In an autocratic society there is no legal way to change the leader since he controls the legal process.”

    Good one, dickhead.

    Tell that to:

    – Chauvin and his 3 partners
    – The J6 zeks in DC gulag (can’t because they’re incommunicado)
    – Roger Stone

    But keep ya trap shut around memaw Clinton or any BLM “freedom fighter”

  31. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    So what? Putin is acting beyond the pale.

    1905 may end up being the historical example that rhymes best. A Tsar who rejected compromise, engaged an underdog with an overrated but under-prepared military and suffered humiliating defeats that resulted in a revolution.

  32. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    Florida Republican Maria Salazar — ‘I support U.S. shooting down Russian planes’…

    This stupid shit is where we are going because of the manipulation by the ferocious propaganda barrage on both sides – and by “both sides” I mean Russia vs. the West, using Ukraine as its proxy. And this woman has no idea what it means other than it makes her feel good.

  33. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    Blade, this falls right in with your 10:51 comment. Globalists Are Using the “George Floyd” Playbook to Cancel Russia and You’re Next

    Perhaps for Ukraine, the war really is about freedom (though Ukraine is neither as free nor as democratic as Western media portray it). But for the Globalist American Empire, the crusade against Russia has nothing to do with “democracy” or “freedom.” In fact, the war provides them with a golden opportunity to act out their increasingly dystopian fantasies. The battle against Russia is a new frontier of American policymaking: It is the globalization of BLM tactics and “cancel culture.” It is George Floydism converted from domestic cudgel to foreign policy doctrine.

  34. bikebubba Avatar
    bikebubba

    Gonna correct a couple of things:

    1. Ukraine does not have any known bioweapons facilities. They have many biological research labs of various classifications, but the claim that these amount to bioweapons labs is pure Russian propaganda. National Review has a nice writeup of what’s really going on.

    2. Donbas is not a majority Russian province, but rather is about 39% Russian and 58% Ukrainians. Only about the eastern third is strongly Russian, but Russia has been using the ethnic Russian minority to terrorize the Ukrainian majority. Let’s be honest here; they’re getting that Russian-made armor from across the border, not delivered by FedEx on an EBay order.

    3. Yes, the USSR redrew national lines at times to include more ethnic Russians in an effort to stymie nationalist movements in its captive territories and obtain more Lebensraum. Just ask Poles, Prussians, Romanians, and more. But that doesn’t give them the right to keep violating the borders, does it?

    Seeing a fair amount of what I can only politely call pro-Russian propaganda here. Let’s stop that; it’s sufficient to understand here that Putin chose to invade a nation which posed no threat to Russia and justified the invasion with arguments that can only politely be called bovine scat.

  35. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    Fess up Bubba; you’re just enthralled with Zelinsky in spike heels and leather halter top, right?
    😍😍😍

  36. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    Here’s some facts, Emery Jr:

    “The census also revealed that about 74.9% of the residents in Donetsk Oblast and 68.8% of Luhansk Oblast’s residents speak Russian as their primary language. It has also been recorded that the large urban centers in the region are mainly occupied by residents belonging of Russian origin.”

    The people fleeing the war from the Dunbas are seeking refuge…wait for it…in Russia. That makes sense because they’re fucking Russians.

    As to the bio-labs; the US has admitted they’re fucking around with the most virulent pathogens on the planet. Why? To save us all, of course.

    LMAO.

    It’s like describing a tank as a vehicle; sure, it moves around like a car, except it also has a big fucking gun mounted on the roof.

  37. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    Seeing a fair amount of what I can only politely call pro-Russian propaganda

    And impolitely? Anti-American? Unpatriotic? The western propaganda masters are rubbing their hands with glee. Geez.

  38. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    Bubba forgets the meddling Obama and his minions did in Ukraine in 2014. Several of them went there to support the revolution. Those same people are still in DC, talking about “insurrectionists”.

    Fuck these people; all of them. This is between Russia and Ukraine. We have no interest in it, well, other than those humanitarian “research labs” *snicker*

  39. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    And just because I don’t buy into the western propaganda, let’s get something straight. Putin was wrong to attack the Ukraine (I’d still like to know why and why at that time) and I hope he loses and loses badly enough that a personal tragedy befalls him (I’ll let your imagination cover the details).

  40. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    Ditto, blade.

  41. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    Listen. Russia isn’t gonna lose this fight. It’s just not gonna happen.

    When the dust settles, a large part of Eastern Ukraine will be absorbed into the RF, and Belarus will follow willingly shortly after.

    If Ukraine still has a sea port, they will be lucky. Odessa is probably gone, but maybe Pedo Joe will send a few billion over there to build another one.

  42. justplainangry Avatar
    justplainangry

    U.S. Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland confirmed in a Congressional hearing on Tuesday that “biological research facilities” were in Ukraine and feared that Russia could take control.

    “Ukraine has biological research facilities which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of, so we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach,” she said.

    Hmmm…. They have many biological research labs of various classifications, but the claim that these amount to bioweapons labs is pure Russian propaganda.

    So if these are benign, why worry? This is a perfect example of propaganda – playing both sides of the issue to one end. Believing propaganda requires suspension of logic. Does not minimize what is going on, for which nobody is making excuses for, just pointing out the hypocrisy and lies, inconsistencies and utter lack of factual truth.

  43. justplainangry Avatar
    justplainangry

    BN, Belarus is already a puppet republic.

  44. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    jdm on March 10, 2022 at 12:56 pm said:
    . . .
    I’d still like to know why and why at that time
    . . .

    Afghanistan. Putin began moving his troops in position last Autmn.

  45. justplainangry Avatar
    justplainangry

    Speaking of state-sponsored propaganda, RIP DuckDuckGo. Et tu, Brutus.

  46. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    wait, what did I miss?

    I use DuckDuckGo

  47. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    DDG is saving us from the RuSHin PrOPagAnda!!!

  48. Blade Nzimande Avatar
    Blade Nzimande

    I cant wait to see the bullshit Jen Sacky comes up with to explain why China snapped up Taiwan.

    Also, cant wait to find out what kind of humanitarian bioweapon research we’re paying for over there.

  49. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    Bike, it’s not your father’s National Review any longer. It’s not even mine, from 30 years ago. The purges have transformed it from standing astride history yelling Stop! to standing on the left side of the aisle yelling Shame! at the right.

    Remember Derbyshire, Coulter, Brimelo, Sobran, Steyn? Gone. And now Goldberg is at CNN. What more evidence do you need? They’ve seized a respected institution, killed it, and are wearing its skin.

    I no longer subscribe, don’t read it for free, and don’t trust its content. I urge you to reconsider the source of your information.

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    Emery Incognito

    ^ Properly unhinged stuff here from one of our resident Kremelbots

    Less an invasion, more an ineptly executed punishment beating. There is no middle ground — either Ukraine or Putin will disappear. History suggests Ukraine has greater longevity — if sadly, not its citizens.

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