Eh, too bad. Sounds like "Munich" screws the pooch, but I'll see it anyway. Rent "One Day in September" and you'll be pissed at Germany for a month.

Spielberg is just another self-hating Jooooo......

They called them Kapos or Zondercommandos in the camps. They could not complete destruction of the Chosen People in 1933-45, so they will use other means like media right down to support of their executioners be them Palestinians or Iranians with Bottle Sunshine in rockets or Hezbollah with germ/sarin rockets.

I am sure Spielberg would weep for the Jewish people's killers.

Long way from E.T, here...

Greg: What fatuous nonsense. Did you see Schindler's List? Did you know Spielberg was the founder of the Shoah Foundation?

I don't think Munich is a great movie -- it's too long and lumpy, especially the end -- but it is well worth seeing. Many of the assassination set pieces are thrilling and horrifying, especially a memorable scene in which a hired gun has revenge visited upon her.

No Mr. Blofeld....I do disagree...and have seen Schindlers List and know about the Shoah Foundation (probably watched the original Shoah movie many year ago long before Speielberg got cosmic or money stashing consciousness in a tax free foundation)...Spielberg has just turned into a total moonbat self-hating guilt driven Jooooo that hates Israel and has that squishy feeling that if we give a good blowj*b with the ole' Palis and other denizens of the "religion of peace" portraying them as noble savages on celluloid that it will exercise the monied guilt Spielberg now harbors toward his people and their survival in an increasingly anti-Semitic/Hebrew world.

He may even milk another movie script from his guilt....

I suggest you go back to your alpine hideout Mr. Blofeld.

Greg: All evidence to the contrary of Spielberg being a bad "Jooooo," you stick to your ridiculous character assassination. Why don't you elucidate a specific criticism against Munich instead of taking reactionary swipes at Spielberg? Have you seen the movie?

I do plan on seeing the movie, and soon - and I recoil from Greg's description of Spielberg as a "self-hating Jew".

However, there's a certain parallel with Webber's thesis - that Spielberg focuses on victimization rather than resistance. I'd love to see Spielberg do a movie about the Palmach, or the '48 War (there are many amazing stories to be told; kibbutzim armed with .303 Enfields holding out against tanks, for crying out loud), or the Jewish resistance (of which there are so many stories; Warsaw, Sobibor, Treblinka, the men who smuggled themselves into and out of Auschwitz to gather information for the Allies, and so on); that'd go a long way toward refuting Webber's (and Greg's) thesis.

I suppose it would be bad form to attend the movie, and cheer loudly at every terrorist death?

Cause that might be fun.

Brian,

Not bad form at all.

But it would have more effect on the coasts.

I happen to think that a wasp from Ohio has the right to yell at a movie screen too....

Mr. Blofeld remarked:
Greg: All evidence to the contrary of Spielberg being a bad "Jooooo,"

To be fair Greg really said:
Spielberg has just turned into a total moonbat self-hating guilt driven Jooooo that hates Israel

Which I find entirely accurate.

Perhaps.. just maybe, if you come out of your self-induced, anything is justifiable fog, you'll realize that there is really no one credible who hopes the troops are going to suffer.

You all have for so long attempted to say that what occured to Vietnam vets, being reviled upon there return, is the same as thinking that invading another UNINVOLVED country (as in not involved in 9/11) is wrong, stupid, and short-sighted.

In your dim world view, the best the US can do to attack terrorism is to engage in setting up puppet, friendly governments whenever and wherever we please.

I suggest you read what happened to the Brits..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)

Consider sometime, thier lies, their attitudes in 1 Para, the "support whatever it takes" that resulted in this. The consequence in Northern Ireland was 15 more years of bloody sundays, the IRA went from fringe, to mainstream, and it only ended when they all got tired of burrying their children.

When you piss and moan about the troops, "caring" about them, consider whether sending them in to establish a government unfriendly to us in the long run, one which will repress and perpetuate violence against us both in the near and far term, and telling them that "do what it takes", while telling the US citizens to shut their damned mouths, consider that you are doing PRECISELY what will make this worse, longer, bloodier, and more costly.

Congratulations.

PB

and Mitch,

If you don't like that I reacted to a part of your lump everything into one post nonsense that's a shame, because really, I'm sure Munich and Iraq share the exact same cause. Specifically, people who hate so much they no longer choose to listen, and desire so much to kill the other side, they no longer care where the bullets land, well, really it's those who desire to stop the killing that should be blamed.

PB

* They support the troops - but revile the mission to which they are committed

Yup. That's right. We do, and a greater man would NEVER have committed them to the debacle in Iraq therefore we wouldn't have to critisise the mission to which they are committed.

* They sympathize with victims - but refuse to discomfit the victimizers, whether on the streets of America's cities, the United Nations, or in the capitols where tyrants hold sway.

Come back when your President and his administration do something about Darfur. Until then, kindly dispense with the disingenuous, O'Reillyesque theatrics.

* They wage war on poverty - by endlessly subsidizing it, guaranteeing its survival.

So Mitch, what's your solution? Please offer something concrete other than the "hand up - not hand out" bumper sticker.

* And in Munich, Spielberg rebukes violence - committed against killers of the innocent.

The film explores whether a nation forfeits moral authority if it resorts to vengence and retaliation and it asks if meeting violence with violence creates more problems than it solves.