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(Note: This post was originally from yesterday. But it's fun, and I've added an update, so I'm bumping it to today).
We all remember the great albums of all time - music that you associate with great moments in your life, or with (or as) great cultural events, or important for whatever reason; albums and singles that satisfy deeply and completely.
This post is not about those albums.
It seems that after every groundbreaking album (or a string of them, for the lucky artist) comes the big letdown - the follow-up that just doesn't follow up; the album from which you expected much, and got not enough.
Bearing in mind that most art disappoints in some way or another, here's my short list of nominations for the most disappointing albums ever.
- The Envoy, Warren Zevon - Recovering from alcoholism is supposed to be a good thing. But The Envoy, Zevon's first post-sobriety album, was a transition that just herked along. Following the magificent live Stand in the Fire live album - in its blotto drunken-hazy glory, one of the best live rock and roll albums ever - and the hilarious Bad Luck Streak in Dancing School, one of the Zevoniest albums ever, Envoy felt like watching a fighter who hadn't been training; Zevon tried a bunch of his old moves, but there was no snap to the punches. Zevon grew into sobriety and made some more great albums; The Envoy wasn't one of them.
- Across a Crowded Room, Richard Thompson - Thompson, fresh off back-to-back classic triumphs Shoot Out The Lights (his last album with ex-wife Linda) and Hand of Kindness (still one of the best albums in a career full of classics), Thompson changed labels. Polydor wanted Thompson - either the world's funniest depressing song writer, or the most depressing funny song writer, and in either case the world's greatest living guitar player) to recoup their investment - so he set out to write an album that was, by his oddball standards, commercial and poppy. Now, I'm not one of those who quibbles with artists going for the bucks - the Replacments got better when they ditched the indie scene and went for the fence - but for someone who wanted the quirky wit and cliffhanger emotional choppiness of the previous albums, it just didn't deliver.
- Tusk, Fleetwood Mac - I wasn't a Mac fan in the late seventies or early eighties. I didn't really learn to appreciate them until the last ten years or so, and then only barely. But now, as then, the followup to Rumors was a bloated, self-indulgent letdown, and proof that Lindsay Buckingham needed a foil. Badly.
- Face Dances, The Who - I was a Who fan in high school. No, that's not right; I was a Who fanatic in high school. I don't know how many copies of Who's Next, Quadrophenia, Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy, Who By Numbers and Who Are You I went through. Glorious, angsty, hilarious, angry - perfect. Then Keith Moon up and died, and the band took three years to write and release Face Dances with journeyman drummer Kenny Jones. To the fanatic who desperately wanted his idols to come back swinging, it all felt tired, rote, like Pete Townsend was groping to find the thread after the death of Moon. The first Who album where I didn't sit down and learn every single song on guitar. I figured it had to get better.
- It's Hard, The Who - I was wrong.
- Human Touch, Bruce Springsteen - It'd been four years since the wonderful Tunnel of Love. Springsteen had broken up the E Street Band, married Patti Scialfa, moved to LA, and run - for good reason - away from the megasuccess of Born in the USA, and the period when he was among the biggest stars in the world. Then in 1991, he staged his big comeback - two simultaneous albums combined with a tour with a new band. The unpolished Lucky Town, recorded mostly by Springsteen himself in his home studio, was fun - but Human Touch, cut mostly with LA session musicians, was mostly emotionally limp, overproduced, underinteresting. Again, the first Springsteen album where I didn't learn how to play every single song on the album within a week.
- Fiona, Fiona - Don't get me wrong; I didn't expect a whole lot from mid-eighties rock thrush "Fiona". But the first exposure, via the song "Talk to Me" in this gloriously dumb, silly, kitchy eighties time capsule video complete with guitarists in red leather pants and visuals pilfered by the boxload from Miami Vice, at least sounded like it had potential - Joplin-y vocals and a bluesy sultriness that, at least with the video turned off, clicked pretty well. You'd have thought at least one other song on her debut album would have been non-laughable. You'd have thought wrong. Or at least I did. Worst eight bucks I ever spent.
- Flip, Nils Lofgren - Nils Lofgren was always the great unknown rocker. After starting at age 17 with Neil Young, Lofgren went onto release a string of classic albums in the early and mid seventies, followed by years of journeyman, also-ran status. One of the great guitar players in rock history, he was one of the great shoulda-beens. In the early eighties, he seemed to be poised on the brink again, with a superb 1981 album, Night Fades Away. So when Springsteen rang him up to replace Miami Steve "Little Steven" "Silvio Dante" Van Zandt in 1984 on the E Street Band's mammoth Born in the USA tour, Lofgren got the kind of exposure that you can't pay for. Millions saw what thousands of us had known for years; Lofgren was one of the great living guitar players. So - with this huuuuuge publicity push behind him, whe does he release? Flip, one of the limpest efforts in a stellar career. Should have been called "Choke". UPDATE: An emailer correctly notes that Flip was Lofgren's second choke; after a couple of widely-acclaimed albums in the seventies, he followed up with the abysmal, disco-influenced I Came To Dance. What Nils has as a guitarist, he lacks as a judge of management.
Nominations are open.
UPDATE AND BUMP: I'm having fun with this. And I just remembered one of the biggest examples of all:
- Voice of America, Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul - Steve Van Zandt, longtime guitarist for the E Street Band and the Asbury Jukes, recorded his first solo album in 1982, the absolutely sublime "Men Without Women". The album featured Van Zandt on guitar, Gary Tallent and former Plasmatic Jean Bouvoir on bass, Max Weinberg and former Young Rascal Dino Danelli on drums, Danny Federici and former Rascal Felix Cavaliere on keyboards, and the Asbury Jukes horn section (many of whom later joined the "Max Weinberg Seven" on the Conan O'Brien show). The album, a wonderful homage to Stax/Volt soul music, was gloriously low-tech; it was recorded in one day, with the band gathered in a circle around a couple of microphones and doing the songs live, in just a few takes, with Van Zandt adding very few overdubs later. "Save Me", "Forever", "Lying in a Bed of Fire", "Until The Good Is Gone", "I've Been Waiting" and the title cut were the standouts, but the whole effort clicked like few others, ever. A glorious album, raw and passionate, one of my five favorite records of all time. So what did Van Zandt follow up with? 1984's dreary Voice of America. Gone were the horns (Van Zandt ditched r'nb for garage-punk) and the soul; replacing it was the creeping realization that Van Zandt only had one emotional note (to say nothing of VOA's sledgehammer-subtle far-left politics). The best that could be said about VOA is that it was better than the three follow-up albums, Freedom No Compromise, Revolution, and Born Again Savage, which swapped styles (dance and worldbeat) but sounded exactly the same, but more dull; it was a good thing Van Zandt had "Silvio Dante" and the reformed E Street Band to fall back on.
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2 from the same year:
Nirvana's "In Utero"
Pearl Jam (Whichever Album Followed "Ten")
Posted by: LearnedFoot at May 18, 2006 10:14 AMEmerson, Lake & Palmer. Brain Salad Surgery was near genius. Then they released Works, a two record set known only for the anti-Christmas carol Father Christmas.
Posted by: Kermit at May 18, 2006 10:50 AMKate Bush, "The Sensual World."
From the artist who gave us the one-two punch of "The Dreaming" and "Hounds of Love," and after a then-unthinkable 4-year delay, a massive letdown. The weakest Kate Bush album by far.
I still listen to it every now & then, though.
Posted by: Brian Jones at May 18, 2006 11:27 AMAh, Fiona...I had quite forgotten about her. Definitely a made-for-video artist. One flash of the translucent white tank-top and I don't care what the hell what her music sounds like.
Posted by: Dave in Pgh. at May 18, 2006 11:30 AMRegarding The Who's Face Dances, I think Townsend used up all his best material for his solo album, Empty Glass, which was released less than one year earlier.
Posted by: Nihilist In Golf Pants at May 18, 2006 12:53 PMNIGP: Exactly. That was the drag; I had HIGH hopes for FD, because EG was such a great record. Blah.
DIP: Re the tank top; hooyeah. The silliness of the video is no comment on higher-level aesthetics.
Brian: Yep. I remember the Kate fans howling about that one.
Foot: You didn't like "In Utero?" Most of my Nirvana-fan friends seemed to, although it left me pretty cold too.
Posted by: mitch at May 18, 2006 01:14 PMYou could tell that after the success of Nevermind, Cobain wrested all creative control from the band.
When your band includes Dave Grohl, that's a very very bad idea. And it showed. Damn near unlistenable for me. I think I listened to it twice.
Posted by: LearnedFoot at May 18, 2006 01:26 PMHmmmmm. Mitch, as a fellow musician, I'm gonna have to ruminate n' cogitate for awhile here... sure I'll come up with something.
Meanwhile, my son Michael would definitely nominate Hasidic reggaemon Matisyahu's "Youth."
Posted by: Pete (Alois) at May 18, 2006 01:29 PMHTML didn't carry thru... here's the link to Michael's review:
http://www.jewlicious.com/index.php/2006/03/15/matisyahu-youth-the-official-jewlicious-review/
Posted by: Pete (Alois) at May 18, 2006 01:30 PMPeter Frampton "I'm in You". What ever you think about the artistic merits of "Frampton Comes Alive", it was HUGE and it Rocked. Frampton went from obscurity to stadium multiple sellouts overnight. Then he seemingly abandoned his Rock and Roll fans with the limp, self indulgent "I'm in You" and his fans sent him right back to obscurity.
Posted by: Michael at May 18, 2006 01:51 PMThe local record store had a life-sized cardboard standup of Frampton from the cover of I'm In You. Someone decapitated it and painted little red dribbles down the front. Seemed fitting.
Posted by: Kermit at May 18, 2006 02:02 PMJinx! I was just thinking of you, Kerm! When I read the part of Michael's post that said "limp, self indulgent," I thought, "Wonder where old Kermit is today."
Posted by: angryclown at May 18, 2006 02:19 PMThat's it, Mitch!
The ultimate disappointing followup was when angryclown followed his bracing "Witty Leftist Riposte" with the utterly dreadful "Rabid Marxist-Leninist Spew."
Posted by: Pete (Alois) at May 18, 2006 02:31 PMTrue, but angryclown's album of Ethel Mermen covers is still a classic.
Posted by: Kermit at May 18, 2006 03:22 PMCrosby, Stills & Nash, "Live It Up." Even the howlingly mediocre CSNY "American Dream" a couple of years earlier was stronger than this embarrassing collection of pay-the-bills, contractually-obligated pap. It had one masterpiece to redeem it, the Stills-penned "Haven't We Lost Enough?" but every other track made me want to microwave the CD and then throw the microwave off the roof and then set fire to the sidewalk it landed on.
Posted by: Beeeej at May 18, 2006 06:34 PMI have two nominations. First: "The Final Cut" by Pink Floyd.
The only reason I can think of for them recording this album, the follow-up the the all-time classic "The Wall," was to fulfill their record contract. What a crappy, lifeless, go-through-the-motions recording. I bought the vinyl in 1982 the first week it was out and played it once; I haven't listened to it since.
Second: "Monster" by REM, which followed both "Out of Time" and "Automatic for the People." I've heard talentless, noisy garage bands play better music than this.
Posted by: Paul at May 18, 2006 06:56 PMDon't worry, Kerm, you're not the target - Angryclown simply opened up the comment box before he realized that this might not be the best place to express his disappointment over whatever Dixie Chicks album followed "Oui: Hate Teh Prez," and you were the nearest commenter to hand.
Posted by: Brian Jones at May 18, 2006 08:21 PMI like In Utero quite a bit. About as much as Nevermind, I'd say, maybe even more sometimes.
Oh, and to turn the concept on its side a little bit: how about back catalogue albums that don't live up to expectations built up by current? Early Flaming Lips stuff is a bitter, bitter disappointment compared to "Soft Bulletin" and "Yoshi Battles the Pink Robots." The blissed-out personae so carefully crafted in those two is ruined by the rote bashing in "In A Priest-Driven Car," and "Transmission from Satellite Heart" is just stupid.
Posted by: Brian Jones at May 18, 2006 08:28 PMtest
Posted by: Mr. Sponge at May 18, 2006 08:42 PMThe disappointment of Human Touch was nothing compared to the vomitrocious band Springsteen took on the road with him that tour. It was just all so wrong.
Posted by: chriss at May 18, 2006 10:35 PMBTW, I still consider Angry Clown's comment that "Even the guy who wrote 99 Bottles of Beer thinks that The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald is tedious and repetitive" to be a classic (even though I actually like the song).
Posted by: chriss at May 18, 2006 10:38 PMEvery comment thereafter has been a let down.
IIRC, Frampton also followed "Comes Alive" with the Srgt. Pepper movie, which killed a lot of careers.
King's X (too obscure?) followed up "Faith, Hope, Love" with their S/T album, which was tweaked and produced to be as commerical sounding as possible. It didn't suck, but had more clunkers than most.
Of course, some bands cheat. U2 followed The Joshua Tree with a live album, to soften the blow before their 90s musical (and attitude) change.
Posted by: Jerry Leigh at May 19, 2006 04:13 AMI'll nominate Boston's "Don't Look Back". Their debut album is a classic, but DLB makes me realize that the songs are all just a bunch of first album rejects.
Posted by: Just Me at May 19, 2006 07:04 AMNot quite, "Brian Jones." Country music still sucks, even when sung by right-thinking hotties. And Angryclown wouldn't permit anything with the word "Dixie" in his clown home. So Angryclown buys Dixie Chix CDs, but immediately landfills them.
Posted by: angryclown at May 19, 2006 07:36 AMPaul, I thought about The Final Cut too. Waters should have called it the Final Straw. Two faily god tune and a bunch of drivel.
Beeeej, American Dream did suck. But by the time they recorded it most of the buzz had worn off.
angryclown...oh,never mind.
Posted by: Kermit at May 19, 2006 07:42 AMBlack Rebel Motorcycle Club's Howl. They cut out all the metal and went with thoughtful lyrics. WTF?
For classic rock stuff, The Stone's Goat's Head Soup. OK, maybe you got laid to "Angie" but I didn't. Hell, I don't know how anyone could get laid to that disappointing follow up to Exile on Main Street.
Posted by: The blogger formerly known as The Wege at May 19, 2006 07:51 AM"King's X (too obscure?) followed up "Faith, Hope, Love" with their S/T album, which was tweaked and produced to be as commerical sounding as possible. It didn't suck, but had more clunkers than most."
I loved that album. It wasn't their best, but the real letdown from King's X was "Dogman"
Posted by: LearnedFoot at May 19, 2006 07:51 AMClown: "Country music still sucks, even when sung by right-thinking hotties."
People who say that in full knowledge that Emmylou Harris exists should lose the right to vote. I'll grant clemency, knowing that the Clown is blissfully unaware of anything west of the Hudson River. Don't waste this second chance, Clown: Homeland Security is watching.
Non-Wege: Was in sixth grade when GHS was released. Didn't get busy to EITHER album. To be fair to the Stones, following up EOMS would be a formidable job.
Just Me: I remember being in eighth (ninth?) grade, hearing DLB on Pat Trenda's cassette player, and even THEN being very, very disappointed.
Foot and Jerry: Loved Kings X, but they happened at a time when I coulnd't follow bands (marriage, yadda yadda). FH'nL was great, and I didn't hear any of the followups.
Chriss: Re the '91-93 Springsteen band; Yeah. The choir was cool, but Shayne Fontaine is among the least impressive guitar players around. After six years of Nils Lofgren, it was puzzling to say the least.
Posted by: mitch at May 19, 2006 08:22 AMLiving Colour's "Time's Up" was the follow-up to "Vivid" and did not pay the freight. Tough act to follow, but still.
Posted by: PaulC at May 19, 2006 09:10 AMOkay, I waited overnight and no one else got it, so I've got to lay it down:
King Crimson. Followed "In the Court of the Crimson King" with "In the Wake of Poseidon."
Heh.
Posted by: Pete (Alois) at May 19, 2006 09:23 AMAnother one that fits this category: Paul Simon's Graceland, a breakthrough and nearly perfect work. Followed up by Rhythm of the Saints, he proved that more isn't always better.
Posted by: Kermit at May 19, 2006 09:35 AMPeter Gabriel's Us. Barf.
As for Wege not getting laid to "Angie"...do you seriously not remember that one time? Thanks.
sorry.
Posted by: katie at May 19, 2006 10:30 AMMore King's X musings:
It would be a perfectly legitimate postion to hold that all of King's X's albums after "Gretchen Goes to Nebraska" were letdowns. It was that good.
Posted by: LearnedFoot at May 19, 2006 10:49 AMBeethoven's Third Symphony: masterful
Posted by: angryclown at May 19, 2006 10:56 AMBeethoven's Fourth Symphony: sucked donkey's
All Pearl Jam albums after "Ten" .
And Wege? Treasure the imagination of that hopefully-fictional moment...
Posted by: Jeff at May 19, 2006 11:28 AMNot a fan of his, but Paul McCartney's "Venus and Mars" and "Wings at the Speed of Sound" made it painfully obvious that his songs had more sap than bark.
Return to Forever "Musicmagic." Gone were the great days of Al Dimeola, Lenny White, Bill Connors, Airto, et. al., and Gayle Moran sings, God Help Us All.
Whatever Jefferson Starship album had We Built This City on it. This was once a great band. Oh, the humanity.
I want to second Fleetwood Mac "Tusk," and King Crimson "In the Wake of Poseidon."
Posted by: DBrooks at May 19, 2006 11:58 AM"Whatever Jefferson Starship album had We Built This City on it."
Knee Deep in the Hoopla.
It burns us.
Posted by: mitch at May 19, 2006 12:24 PMThis thread needs a special lifetime award for Elvis Costello, who spent ten albums moving from sharp pop brilliance to baroque unlistenability. Every third album would be heralded as a return to his earlier, funnier albums, but only because one song had an actual hook, and the lyrics didn't sound like Cole Porter channelling James Joyce. Or vice versa.
Posted by: Lileks at May 19, 2006 12:30 PMI remember a picture in Rolling Stone in about '85 of that Fiona chick at some industry party, sucking deep face with...Paul Schaffer.
Life never seemed so unfair.
Posted by: AK at May 19, 2006 12:33 PMRE: Jefferson Starship
Posted by: Kermit at May 19, 2006 12:34 PMIn keeping with the thread, they had one very good album in Dragonfly followed by the execrable Red Octopus. Shame on you, Marty Balin.
U2's bland "October", a rush job coming on the heels of their debut "Boy." Rushed because the record company got word that some demo bootlegs were about to hit the market and they wanted the album release to come ahead of the bootlegs. Sounds like it, too.
Re: The Who. It may be well to consider Quadrophenia the last quality Who album as their next 4 releases (By Numbers, Who Are You and the aforementioned and rightly disparaged Face Dances and It's Hard) were definitely "no cigar" material. If only Keith had bought the farm in '74...KIDDING.
The Kinks of course followed up the tremendous Arthur with Lola vs. Powerman (YUCK), and followed up Preservation Act I with A Soap Opera. They may be the kings in this territory.
Posted by: Tim at May 19, 2006 12:35 PMJames: Can't believe I missed that. And "the lyrics didn't sound like Cole Porter channelling James Joyce. Or vice versa" is a keeper...
Tim: October also suffered because, so the story goes, the notebook with the lyrics got stolen. Bono had to reconstruct/vamp the lyrics as best he could. I almost included that one on my list, but "Gloria" redeems all.
Posted by: mitch at May 19, 2006 12:44 PMAnd I'll second "The Final Cut," which wasn't just the same three chords dripping with misanthropic narcissism: it was a long tedious rant against World War Two, of all things. It seems that Roger Waters was the only person who lost his father in the war.
"Not Now John" ends amusingly, though. In the rather crowded field of songs that conclude with a soccer hooligan attempting to ask a foreigner for the location of the nearest bar, it stands alone.
Posted by: Lileks at May 19, 2006 12:54 PMJames (Lileks): "Not Now John" had one other redeeming characteristic: A short, searing and very-much-to-the-point David Gilmour guitar solo. I think he ran in to lay it down while double-parked at the curb, counting the seconds before he could get back outta there.
One other clarification RE late-period Jefferson Starship: It should be noted, by anyone who goes clear back to the Airplane, that Jorma and Jack are EXEMPTED from this dreck and never had anything to do with it. (As if you couldn't tell?)
Posted by: Pete (Alois) at May 19, 2006 01:15 PMTim, Who Are You was a pretty decent album. It had songs like The Music Must Change and Goodbye Sister Disco which are vintage Townsend. Also, the cover had Moon sitting on a director's chair with the words NOT TO BE TAKEN AWAY stencilled on the back. Coincidence?
Posted by: Kermit at May 19, 2006 01:23 PMGuilty pleasure alert...
Styx, following up "Paradise Theater" with "Kilroy Was Here".
I mean, if you're the kind of guy who likes Styx, then "Paradise Theater" will give you a lift. Even Styx fans must admit that "Kilroy" was grasping on a number of levels.
Posted by: badda-blogger at May 19, 2006 01:50 PMBadda, you have forged a new layer of epistemology in this discussion; what has been the biggest disappointment after something one detested to begin with?
(Not a Styx fan, although Tommy Shaw could sure play)
Posted by: mitch at May 19, 2006 02:25 PMWhatever MTV unplugged/spoken word brain-fart Lauryn Hill released after The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. I think it's called "Is that my navel or am I just happy to see me?"
Posted by: katie at May 19, 2006 02:28 PMKerm: I may be in the minority but it's not a favorite of mine. I think many of the songs are too bloated, too long and too much (did you know Moon did not play on "Music Must Change"? He couldn't deal with the song's 6/8 time signature). I get some flack for not liking By Numbers but what are you gonna do? To me Quadrophenia effectively ended their career. Not a bad album to go out on.
Posted by: Tim at May 19, 2006 03:43 PMLileks said:
"And I'll second "The Final Cut," which wasn't just the same three chords dripping with misanthropic narcissism: it was a long tedious rant against World War Two, of all things. It seems that Roger Waters was the only person who lost his father in the war.
"Not Now John" ends amusingly, though. In the rather crowded field of songs that conclude with a soccer hooligan attempting to ask a foreigner for the location of the nearest bar, it stands alone."
James, you've listened to that album way too much.
Posted by: Paul at May 19, 2006 03:52 PMDon't know if James has listened to it too much, but he may have devoted too much time becoming the world's foremost exper on songs that conclude with a soccer hooligan attempting to ask a foreigner for the location of the nearest bar.
Posted by: mitch at May 19, 2006 03:57 PMWhile we're on the subject of songs that feature soccer hooligans attempting to ask a foreigner for the location of the nearest bar... wasn't that kinda the subtext in the Replacements' "Talent Show"?
(or maybe it was just Bob Stinson razzing a bunch of foreign soccer hooligans IN a bar, I dunno...)
Posted by: Pete (Alois) at May 19, 2006 04:04 PMTim, "Momma's got a squeeze-box". That says it all.
And cut Lileks some slack. Considering where he works it's amazing he isn't "dripping with misanthropic narcissism" too. Rather like a coworker with the initials N.C.
Posted by: Kermit at May 19, 2006 04:22 PMFor me it has to be "This Desert Life" from Counting Crows. Their debut work "August and Everything After" was visionary and they followed it with the rocking "Recovering the Satellites" and I'm thinking, Yes!
Then along comes "This Desert Life" and suddenly I'm looking at my cd player like the Aflac duck trying to figure out what Yogi Berra is saying. I was dumbfounded. Still am.
Posted by: Jonathan at May 19, 2006 07:10 PMFor me it has to be "This Desert Life" from Counting Crows. Their debut work "August and Everything After" was visionary and they followed it with the rocking "Recovering the Satellites" and I'm thinking, Yes!
Then along comes "This Desert Life" and suddenly I'm looking at my cd player like the Aflac duck trying to figure out what Yogi Berra is saying. I was dumbfounded. Still am.
Posted by: Jonathan at May 19, 2006 07:11 PM"While we're on the subject of songs that feature soccer hooligans attempting to ask a foreigner for the location of the nearest bar... wasn't that kinda the subtext in the Replacements' "Talent Show"?"
So there are *two* songs in that genre? Hmm. Call it a tie.
Posted by: Lileks at May 19, 2006 07:49 PMAll down hill for The Sex Pistols after Never Mind the Bollocks. Even Gary Oldman singing Sid Vicious in Sid and Nancy sounded better than anything from The Great Rock and Roll Swindle. Also in this vein anything that Lene Lovich did after Stateless.
Posted by: Pat Patteson at May 19, 2006 10:26 PMMitch, anything by King's X is good, it just depends on which era between "good" and "best rock band ever." But,If you've never heard "Gretchen Goes to Nebraska," find an excuse -- it's on the new free Napster if you want. One of the best.
Foot: Their S/T was good, but it was clear they were in transition. I liked Dogman, but "Ear Candy" was a turn back in the right direction. The new one, Ogre Tones, is probably their best in 10 years.
Posted by: Jerry Leigh at May 19, 2006 10:30 PMTrue Believers--self-titled disc. They were one of the best live bands I've ever seen, but on the album they sounded comatose.
There are too many Bob Mould solo discs to add to the list. I keep hoping for a flash of Husker Du or Sugar, but I'm disappointed almost every time.
Posted by: Chrees at May 22, 2006 12:26 PMI thought Vs, Pearl Jam's follow up to Ten was almost as good. Animal, Daughter and Dissident are as good as anything on Ten. Now, I will agree Pearl Jam jumped off the cliff with Vitalogy and everything after when they decided a song didn't need any type of melody, sharp guitar riffs or any other cohesiveness. They were too busy battling TicketMaster (and losing) to bother with making good CD's.
I actually like The Who's Its Hard. Eminence Front and Athena are great Who songs. I always thought The Who By Numbers was a horrible follow up to the brilliant Quadrophenia (if you ignore Odds & Sods as not a "true original release").
Two of the biggest worst follow ups that come to mind are The Stones Emotional Rescue to Some Girls and Zeppelin's Presence to Physical Graffiti. Emotional Rescue seems like leftovers from Some Girls. She's So Cold isn't bad, but it's one decent song surrounded by filler that should never have been released.
I know the situation Zeppelin was in when they were recording Presence contributed to it, but Presence is by far the worst Zeppelin album (if there is such a thing) and definitely fits this list because Physical Graffiti is Zep's best and a top 5 Greatest Rock CD's ever.
Posted by: painteddog at May 22, 2006 07:26 PMI'm surprised no mention of Dylan, Clapton, Lou Reed, Neil Young, or Bowie. All have had incredibly bad albums (the words "Self Portrait" are forever ruined by Dylan). Young makes a habit of releasing flotsam admist the jetsam...or is it the other way around? But that is part of his appeal, for me.
Anyway, too many releases to cooment about by the above that have transcended what most others have done, and recorded dreck worse than most garage bands.
Posted by: Chrees at May 23, 2006 02:43 AM