Last night I caught a little bit of Der Weiner on my way home from work and he announced that he was officially supporting Bush because “didn’t want to support a party [Democrats] that was being run by a bunch of minorities and immigrants.”

Previously I’ve thought he’s come pretty close to line by continually harping on the (often exaggerated but nonetheless legitimate) problems and concerns created by illegal immigration. These is an important issue and while he’s often come close to the line that separates those who want to fix the problem versus those who engage in gratuitous immigrant-bashing, as far as I could tell, he’s was always (barely) on the right side of the line.

Last night he not only stepped over the line, he practically obliterated it. It’s official, the guy’s a racist a**hole and conservatives, including those who want to enforce our immigration laws, should disown him. Even if you were inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt or defend him from the often scurrilous charges made by the other side, IMO last night’s comments were utterly indefensible.

No kidding?

Ugh. What a moron.

"I hope he chokes on a chicken bone and dies".

No, not really. But ugh.

Savage is correct. Illegals are NOT citizens...do not have the rights of citizens under the Bill of Rights and should be deported immediately.

If it is time for civil war between the red states and blue states over a few of these issues..then let us have at it. You cannot keep try to make this nation commit suicide by letting everyone in here...mostly people that are anti-thetical to the American way of life. (i.e. third world terrorists, islamofascists, narco-terrorists).

Democrat party is the party of boshevism and death. Republican party is the party of patriotism and Americanism.

I don't know what he said to rile people up, but having listened to him more than I care to ( my wife likes him ), I would probably say what frustrates him the most is when people who should agree with him quibble over the how the message is delivered and waste energy arguing over semantics instead of calling for a solution to the problem.

If he's a whack ( he's outrageous in what he says, but I doubt he's any kind of Duke or Byrd ), then don't invoke him when advocating causes he also supports. Just don't waste the effort condemning him when that effort is better spent, say, getting a better congressman elected.

If you back away from causes you believe in because Savage took it too far, you're falling into the trap of acting guilty for believing in what you believe. This hinderance, Democrats don't have.

Unlike Sharpton and other anti-Semites, Savage is not a member of congress or community spokesperson.

If a local community has a high LEGAL alien population and chooses to let that population vote on local issues/candidates, I have no problem with it. On a state level, if the entire state chooses to accept it, I guess that's ok as well. (I'm assuming by legal alien, we are referring to resident aliens and aliens legally working on gaining US citizenship.)

However, regarding ILLEGAL aliens, the illegal says it all. If we want them to be legal, change the immigration laws. Unless that happens, enforce the law.

I do think we should be open minded about accepting refugees, but we need to be careful not to take more than we can handle. As far as I know, we do have relatively strong standards regarding non-refugee immigrants, don't we?

I've got some ideas about limited children's sufferage, but I'll leave that to a different time.

The issue of our borders and has been ignored by both parties. Granting illegals the same rights and benefits as an American citizen cheapens what it means to be American.

It used to be that an immigrants main goal was to be naturalized and become an American citizen. Learning the pledge of allegence and other required expectations for citizenship became the gateway to the most sacred right of all, The right to vote.

Now we are sending a message that the only thing that counts is that you make it accross the border, once here you will be treated like a conquering hero, lavished with benefits and courted by politicians looking for power. When the Irish landed in New York Harbor last century they were given Bread, soup and directions where to vote. Stacking is nothing new. Its no longer though just an issue of Jobs, money and votes, it is an issue of our survival.

Savage may be rough around the edges, (OK he is rough all over) but he is right about the threat it poses to us all, if we care that being an American citizen means anything anymore.

Savage is rough; all over. He's interesting to listen to, in a train-wreck sort of way, and this puts him in a class with several other folks whose periodic legitimate message is overwhelmed by the umbrage generated by its delivery.

He's right on immigration. His delivery, however, makes him sound like an arrogant racist a-hole, which I think he might be. As a result, his message will likely never be received, at least not from him. And that makes his efforts a bit of a waste, no?