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June 29, 2004

EBay for Leftists

Commerce and the left are frequently at odds (except when making Michael Moore obscenely wealthy is concerned).

Saint Paul from Fraters mentions that Ruminator Books has finally slid down the drain it's been circling for years. Owner Dave Unowski's business plan - create a bookstore that actively sneered on the mass market - didn't take off with the, er, mass market.

It reminded me of this post:

I’m not a huge fan of eBay. The “auction� format may be one of the most regressive distribution models there is – essentially saying that the people who have the most money deserve stuff more than people who don’t have a lot of money...However, it’s probably the fastest way for me to be able to get the stuff out of my house and possibly into the hands of someone who might want those games for whatever reason.
May I suggest "GiveStuffAwayBay?" It'd be a website where people who want to get rid of stuff can post it on the website, and anyone who wants it can pay for the shipping...

...no. Wait. That'd also be regressive. People with the money to spend on shipping would get all the stuff; who says people with the most shipping money deserve the stuff more than people without?

So "GiveStuffAwayBay" would require the "seller" to pay for the shipment; people pick what they want, and the "seller" ponies up.

I'm sure Dave Unowski can get Jay Benanav to get the city of St. Paul on board...

Posted by Mitch at June 29, 2004 07:49 AM
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I particularly liked this quote from the Strib:
"If America hadn't gone totally junk culture, totally commercial, bookstores like Ruminator wouldn't have any trouble at all," Bly added. "David would have done just fine at the tail end of the 19th century. You can't sell Shakespeare to someone who comes in looking for a discount paperback copy of 'Reagan's OK, You're OK.' "

If this doesn't sum up why the place went under, I don't know what does. The whole attitutde reeks of "What? You don't want that popular fun to read crap! You want this obscure guilt inducing crap!"

Posted by: Donavan at June 29, 2004 08:20 AM

Great idea, Mitch. But we already have that here in the Twin Cities:

http://www.twincitiesfreemarket.org/

Flash

Posted by: Flash at June 29, 2004 09:30 AM

Donavan--

1. Even though Carol Bly is an obvious bigot who is much smarter than the hoi polloi she fears and hates, I note her books are sold on Amazon along with everyone else's. Surely she could have written books to be sold only by independent dealers. Any evidence that she did?

2. Further, Bly is quite wrong about what can be sold to people. Every Borders in the Twin Cities has a bigger selection of both Shakespeare and self-help books than Ruminator/HM ever did. I reckon that the back catalogs of highbrow publishers are in way better shape in the era of Amazon and the superstores than they ever were when City Lights and 8th St were the leading bookstores--during that time, if you were from the suburbs or a small town or from a non-reading family, you were pretty much SOL. Elitist frauds like Carol Bly will assure you that that was the Golden Age, of course.

Posted by: Brian (MN) at June 29, 2004 09:31 AM

Yeah, freemarket... I blogged on that at http://www.theamericanmind.com/ the other day. http://freecycle.org/ will give you a link to a community email list (usually run through Yahoo! Groups) where people can offer up what they want to get rid of. I got a swingset/sandbox thing the other day for my daughter. It cost me gas to Cold Spring, a bunch of sweat and lunch at BK.

Posted by: Shawn Sarazin at June 30, 2004 10:47 AM

Wouldn't "FreeBay" be a better name?

Posted by: Steve in Houston at June 30, 2004 02:51 PM
hi