Careful, Mitch. His packs of slobbering comment droogs will descend on you in about 10...9...8...7...

What a level-headed, not at all spiteful man! I wish to follow in his footsteps.

BTW - It's Morris, not Mankato, right? I'd hate to think that my family's master degrees from Mankato State will be devalued because of this guy.

Nah. It's 'kato.

Crap. They paid good money for that thing.

Well at least they got the free bowl of soup, eh Poe?

Quoth the Angry Clown, "Nevermore."

If only that were the case, AC.
;)

Mitch, it's Morris. I know him. And you could Google that phrase and get multiple hits on his site.

http://www.morris.umn.edu/directories/personnel/Paul_Myers.html

I found the blog and the comments most impressive. Most impressively stupid, that is. Then again, maybe it took flunking econ 101 to get him into biology.

TREBEK: "Morris, Mankato"

BERG: "What are two cities I've never been to?"

TREBEK: "That's correct, and you control the board"

BERG: "I'll take "White Robes" for $500"

TREBEK: "PZ Meiers"

BERG: "What is an 'ignorant bigot'?"

TREBEK: "Congratulations! You win! And it's off to Final Jeopardy"

Know what's really funny about these comments? PZ probably would never blog about politics but the politicized evangelicals kept trying to ram religion into his classroom.

Don't argue evolution with this guy. But, if you're not afraid of science, he has a lot of good content.

And some politics.

" . . .but the politicized evangelicals kept trying to ram religion into his classroom."
Whose classroom? Doesn't it belong to the state of MN?

Mitch, I'm enough of an atheist not to join any atheist organizations. Atheists who are worthy of the label don't hate Genesis, just Creationism.

And Terry, I think it's the interjection of religion into PZ's classroom from his students that he objects to. He's teaching science, something as vastly removed from Creationism as you can get. Anytime the lecture has to stoop to accommodate a faith-based question or argument, all the students lose their opportunity to learn science.

When I studied religion at the U of Iowa, I don't recall any science students interrupting and making fun of the curriculum, just as I'm assuming very few economics lectures get interrupted by Marxists.

"I'm assuming very few economics lectures get interrupted by Marxists"

King?

Oh, I suspect that that might depend on *where* the class takes place. But point taken, sort of.

"I think it's the interjection of religion into PZ's classroom from his students that he objects to."

Except he goes WAAAAAY beyond "objecting to" anything. If you were correct, I'd think his blog would have occasional references to "boy, I wish Allyson Fangstad would quit trying to sneak creationist references into my lectures". But no - read his blog and notice the hate dripping into areas unrelated to science, students, or philosophy, including the one that spawned this thread in the first place. (Do fundamentalist ("wingnut"?) Christianity and corruption *really* go hand in hand? I'm suspecting not).

I don't care, really - let him think what he wants. For someone who claims to put such a premium on empiricism, he tosses it aside like a crack whore dumping a chastity belt, when it suits him.

Everything I've read from him (and I can only stomach him in brief doses) makes me feel...sad, more than anything.

I guess it depends on your perspective. Having been raised in a community that barely tolerate Catholics, let alone non-Christians, I have some fairly draconian responses to evangelicals trying to shoehorn religion into our classrooms, especially science classes.

For every PZ, there are literally thousands of evangelicals pushing just as hard in the opposite direction. Before Reagan Christianized the Republican party, the checks and balances on evangelicals used to be other Christians. Now when I go home to Iowa I hear muttering from my Methodist-turned-Lutheran mom, but she doesn't stand up to the evangelicals in her party and so they keep passing platforms that seek to make Christianity our state religion.

PZ may not be easy for you to take, but creationism in my nieces and nephews' classrooms would be impossible for me to tolerate.

And let me know if King writes you on this: I suspect most of his students can't even spell Marxism, let alone accurately summarize Karl's teachings.