...because I hate all blogging tools.
I started on Blogger, whose service hiccups have been legendary for years. But it was free, so I dared not complain.
Then, I upgraded to Moveable Type 2.6x. And when I say "I" upgraded, I really meant Ed upgraded me one day. In a couple of minutes. Because I couldn't do the installation myself. Now, I'm pretty literate around computers - I've even done a ton of work on Linux and Unix. But no - after days of trying, I was no closer to installing MT2.6 than I was to building a muscle car out of toothpicks. It could not happen. So thanks, Ed.
Of course, MT2.x is getting very long in the tooth - which is why I suspect my right menu, and sometimes my entire blog, won't load. So I'm trying to upgrade to either Wordpress or Movable Type 3.3
Wordpress, I have been told, is the easiest install in the world. But after three attempts, when I try to fire up the install script I get...nothing. Crash and burn. Zip.
As to Movable Type 3.3 - pffft. Not a chance.
And I won't go to TypePad - I won't pay to use an editor on someone else's space.
So does anyone have any ideas here?
Posted by Mitch at July 23, 2006 04:14 PM | TrackBack
Mitch,
I'd love to help you if I can. Send me your phone number this afternoon/evening and I'll try to talk you through the Wordpress install process. I've done this a few times now (recovering from my own stupidity), so I've had to learn the hard way how to get it done.
Be well,
Posted by: Bob Souer at July 23, 2006 05:43 PMBob
Mitch,
I've just sent you my phone number to your "comments" addy, if you'd rather call me.
Be well,
Posted by: Bob Souer at July 23, 2006 05:48 PMBob
Mitch,
OK. I promise, my last comment of the night. My email to you with my phone number bounced because your "comments" box is full. So, I searched the Wordpress forums for some additional information.
Here's one alternative I found for you:
http://install4free.wordpress.com/
Be well,
Posted by: Bob Souer at July 23, 2006 06:16 PMBob
You're on Hosting Matters, right?
If so, under the control panel, there's a tool called "Fantastico" which asks you a few questions and installs WordPress for you. That would be the easiest way to get it up and running - you might need to upgrade to the latest version, but that pretty much involves overwriting the old version and running the upgrade script.
As I recall, the process of converting old entries from MT to WordPress was tricky, but I think they've made that even easier in the last couple of years since I tried it - it might even copy the database directly now...
Posted by: Jay Reding at July 23, 2006 07:25 PMNever mind about having to upgrade - Hosting Matters installs the latest version through Fantastico.
Posted by: Jay Reding at July 23, 2006 07:27 PMMitch,
I have set up 3 blogs in wordpress here locally in the TC's. I'd be happy to help, if you haven't got it yet.
Shoot me an email, and we can figure something out.
AAA
Posted by: triple_a at July 23, 2006 08:03 PMOK - thanks for the tips. I installed through HostingMatters...
...but every time I try to hit wp-admin.php, I get a 403 "Forbidden" error "You don't have permission to access /wp/wp-admin/ on this server."
I checked the permissions - what needs to be changed?
Posted by: mitch at July 24, 2006 07:31 AMOK - I got that figured out.
But now I hit admin.php, log in, and get a thoroughly blank page.
I know I must be hitting the wrong place, but I have no idea...
Posted by: mitch at July 24, 2006 07:34 AMIt's probably still a permissions thing, going to wp-admin/ should take you right to the login. I'd make sure the permissions on the /wp/ directory are right - that might be causing the problem.
Posted by: Jay Reding at July 24, 2006 07:46 AMNah. I changed the permissions to 777, and I still get the blank page after the login.
This is NOT a great ad for WordPress.
Posted by: mitch at July 24, 2006 10:06 AMFantastico should set the right permissions automatically, but it looks like it's screwing something up somewhere. I had a similar problem when I used Fantastico to install Gallery.
I'd try using 755 or 666 for the permissions - sometimes the server won't let you use 777 as a valid permission for security reasons.
WordPress itself is easy to install, but bonked permissions are a royal PITA regardless of what software you're using. My solution tends to be to trash the directory and create a new one. If you don't want to go the support ticket route, I'd back up your wp-config.php file, trash your old install, upload a new copy, and put the wp-admin.php you backed up into the new version. If you create the directory yourself, the permissions should be OK.
At least the database got created, so you don't need to worry about that part of it...
Posted by: Jay Reding at July 24, 2006 10:55 AMMitch-
You're gonna' need some pliers, and a set of 30 weight ball bearings (it's all ball bearing nowadays) And you're gonna' need about 10 quarts of antifreeze, preferably Prestone. No, make that Quaker State.
Hope that helps.
Posted by: the elder at July 24, 2006 10:59 AMYou forgot a rubber chicken, a greased-up wicker bundt pan, some 40-weight motor oil, and a towel you can throw away when you're done...
Posted by: Jay Reding at July 24, 2006 12:11 PMDumb question, but...
Did you run the install?
wp-admin/install.php
Posted by: triple_a at July 24, 2006 06:56 PMAAA,
Yep.
Posted by: mitch at July 25, 2006 06:29 AM