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April 20, 2006

GOP: Not Dead Yet

I've noted in this space before - every year, there's an issue or two that the punditry breathlessly slaver is going to "kill the GOP".

In 2002 it was Gay Marriage, which was supposed to rip the social conservative wing of the GOP asunder from the libertarians. Didn't happen.

In 2003, it was the budget. Some of us are still exercised about it, and there may have to be a reckoning about finances in the party one day - but the party is fine.

Last year it was the whole "life" issue, springing from the Terry Schiavo case, which was Libcons facing off against SocCons again. And yet we endured.

This year, the killer du jour is immigration.

Only this one isn't killing us either:

In a political season when most of the news has been bad for Republicans, the Congressional debate over immigration has produced a bit of movement in favor of the GOP.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national opinion survey found that 37% of Americans now trust Republicans more than Democrats on the issue of immigration. Just 31% trust the Democrats more.

In late March, the two parties were perceived equally on the topic, with 38% favoring the GOP and 37% preferring the Democrats.

Americans remain divided on the issue itself. Just 41% favor letting immigrants move towards citizenship by paying a fine, paying back taxes, and learning to speak English. Forty-two percent (42%) are opposed.

There's good news, here...
Another earlier survey found that two-thirds of Americans believe it doesn't make sense to debate new immigration laws until we can first control our borders and enforce existing laws.
...and not-so-good news:
That same survey found that 40% of Americans favor "forcibly" requiring all 11 million illegal immigrants to leave the United States.
It'd be interesting to see the social, political and cultural affiliations of those 40%.

Posted by Mitch at April 20, 2006 07:28 AM | TrackBack
Comments

Wingnuts choose power over integrity. I am very, very surprised.

Posted by: angryclown at April 20, 2006 08:07 AM

Interesting statement.

Based on...what?

Posted by: mitch at April 20, 2006 09:19 AM

I don't understand how the media gets away with painting this as only a republican wedge issue. It's more of a wedge issue for Democrats. The number of Republicans who favor amnesty/immigration for business reasons etc. and for whom this is a high saliency issue is rather small versus the number of democrats who think we should ship 'em all back and who see it a high saliency issue. Both sides recognize that they have to be careful not to destroy their relationships to the burgeoning Hispanic population of voters. I'd say it's clearly a wedge issue for both sides.

Posted by: Margaret at April 20, 2006 12:07 PM

I agree with Margaret... It seems to me this would be a real wedge issue for the Dem's. Unions are anti-legal residency, while the majority of the hispanic population is pro (although there is a divide here as well, largely between more recent immigrants and those who have been in the US for generations). Yes, there is a divide in the GOP as well between law & order folks and pragmatic business folks, but I don't see this being a problem exclusively, or even primarily, for the GOP.

Posted by: chriss at April 20, 2006 01:59 PM

Interesting statement.

Based on...what?


The compulsion to incitement? A certain twisted pathology? A simmering case of BDS? Unjustified arrogance?


Posted by: Kermit at April 20, 2006 03:52 PM

Conceit.

Posted by: Eracus at April 20, 2006 04:16 PM

Yes Mitch but by that same token this is a large portion of the conservative base that is pretty pissed at Republican's complete inability to do anything about immigration.

Now while those people may not vote Democrats or stay home, what's the liklihood that a demoralized and angry base is going to volunteer for or contribute to Republican campaigns as they have in the past?

The GOP could win the battle for public opinion, yet lose the war because their our side didn't fight for them.

Posted by: Kevin at April 20, 2006 06:25 PM

What's killing the GOP this year is acting like Democrats, betraying their principles, becoming fat cats, letting pork go out of control, wildly overspending, creative massive new entitlements, expanding the federal government.

Posted by: Douglas at April 21, 2006 01:45 AM

Check the temp. in Hell, I agree with with Doug.

Posted by: Kermit at April 21, 2006 07:01 PM

For the record, I'm not Douglas. Just Doug. BUT he is right - partially. It's not that they are acting like Democrats. They are acting like modern politicians. They will say and do anything they need to get elected and once in office, their promises and pledges mean nothing.

Term limits are a perfect example. The Republican Contract for America made a big issue out of term limits but after the Republicans took control of Congress, term limit legislation was defeated AND as far as I know, only one or two of the Republicans and a couple of Democrats have kept their pledge to self limit their service.

It's not like term limits will actually matter in practice but when public opinion about a do-nothing Congress is so crappy, throwing out term limit pledges sounds appealing to the knee-jerk Ameican populace.

It's the national elections equivalent to promising extended recess hours in a campaign for 6th grade class president.

Posted by: Doug at April 22, 2006 08:11 AM

What a relief! Douglas, not Doug. Mitch really needs registration. Of course that would eliminate all the satire Eva Young posts.

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