Doug Grow never met a DFL fringe cause he didn't like.
No matter how dumb, as we see in today's column about Governor Pawlenty's violence summit at the mansion.
Grow:
Missing from the meeting? People of color. There were 13 people discussing issues of public safety in diverse Minneapolis. All were white.Samuels resorts to the now-almost-inevitable slavery analogy - and Grow dutifully parrots it.Don Samuels was available. In fact, Samuels, who as a City Council member heads the council's public safety committee, stood outside the governor's mansion while the meeting was going on.
"But they wouldn't allow an African- American man from the public safety committee into the big house," he said.
The real answer, most likely, is this: The meeting was intended for people who can do something about the problem. Samuels is, most likely, not a part of that solution. He, as a member of the DFL machine that has turned Minneapolis into a contender for crime capitol of the nation, may well be part of the problem.
Whatever his skin color.
According to Samuels, Rybak had asked him Thursday to attend the meeting. But on Friday morning he was told by the mayor that the governor had uninvited him.So let me get this straight; Rybak invited Samuels to Pawlenty's meeting?At a news conference after the meeting, the governor was asked why Samuels was left outside.
"Well, we had a number of people requesting to be at the meeting, ranging from other lawyers to other council members to other law enforcement," Pawlenty said.
My scenario (unattributed, and conjured entirely from my own suspicions): Rybak wanted to bring some more DFL "muscle" to the meeting, to defend the city's miserable status quo and dubious ability to fix things.
The governor wasn't going to get railroaded, and he doesn't care what the assembly of DFL hacks and their kept men in the media call him in retribution.
In the meantime, Samuels' exclusion was more than a personal slight.They are deeply systematic problems, indeed - and Samuels is part of the system."There are deeply systematic problems," Samuels said. "Those problems are not going to be solved by homogenous groups. I don't have a magic bullet to solve what's going on. But I have insights that no one in that room could have."
Samuels doesn't object to the Band-Aid fixes to social wounds that came from Friday's session. The governor and mayor announced that more officers will be patrolling downtown streets this summer because of a $2 million boost in state aid.Um...hence the cops downtown and uptown, where we predict the violence will be?But Samuels said it's naive to believe a few more cops solves anything long term.
"The violence was random, but it also was predictable," said Samuels of the killings in Uptown and on Block E. "We have to deal with the predictable aspect."
What exactly is Samuels saying? That violence is "predictable'...why? On what basis does Samuels predict violence? Because of systemic problems facing minority communities?
What do minority communities think of that?
Oh, to be fair, that may not have been what Samuels was talking about (although I can't imagine what he is talking about). But the Governor is talking about fixing systemic problems, too:
Brian McClung, the governor's spokesman, said there will be future meetings to deal with larger issues. High on the list of priorities, he said, are meetings with judges to discuss keeping bad people in prison.That'd be a big systemic problem, all right. And naturally, not the one Samuels (and Grow) care about:
But that won't make our city safer, either, Samuels said.Ah. I was right the first time."The solution is not the number of cops," Samuels said. "It's not more prisons. It's a change of heart."
What's difficult is that the change of heart must come from the people in power.
"You cannot hold anyone accountable if they think you don't care," Samuels said. "Neglect and abuse makes people angry. Abandonment makes them enraged, and that's what we're dealing with. You have to stop the rhetoric about accountability until you demonstrate love."
The quote needs to be reiterated: "You can't hold someone accountable if they think you don't care".
Someone kills you? If you didn't care, it's a wash.
This is Don Samuels' and Doug Grow's Minneapolis.
Posted by Mitch at April 12, 2006 06:56 AM | TrackBack
"What's difficult is that the change of heart must come from the people in power."
The sound of the buck being passed. The people in power aren't running around shooting each other. If "Neglect and abuse makes people angry", why aren't they shooting at the people in power? Or targeting them? Minneapolis needs solutions and the likes of Samuels, Grow and RT are providing platitudes. I'll tell you what's predictable. A long hot and violent summer.
Posted by: Kermit at April 12, 2006 07:43 AM"You have to stop the rhetoric about accountability until you demonstrate love."
That sentence sums up liberalism and why it fails our cities.
Posted by: Nancy at April 12, 2006 08:22 AM"Magic bullet" seems like a rather inapt choice of words, doesn't it?
Posted by: chriss at April 12, 2006 09:38 AMAny chance of a Guiliani coming to power in Mpls?
I didn't think so.
If you want more of a particular behavior, excuse it.
Put bad people in prison. Gee, what a concept!
Not for the first time, it is worth wondering whether our cities would be better places if our various levels of government stopped using resources to regulate or criminalize the inhalation of various types of burning vegetable matter, or other nonsensical efforts, and instead primarily concerned itself with identifying those who engage in criminal violence, and then segregating them in small rooms until they are too elderly to present a threat to others.
I don't know if the recent Block E murderer had prior offenses, but I believe the recent Uptown murderer had previously shown himself to be willing and able to violently prey on others. Too bad he wasn't pulling a fifty year, no parole, sentence, thus allowing a law abiding citizen to now be alive.
Posted by: Will Allen at April 12, 2006 09:58 AMIt is up to people, individually and in self-selected groups, to demonstrate love. Governments demonstrate power. Why is this so hard for some people to understand?
Posted by: Brian Jones at April 12, 2006 10:11 AMI think the underlying racism in this issue is pretty evident. Nobody really cares when the murder reports when minorities are the ones dying - except the occasional Tyesha Edwards story - which generated many stories but no mass action by politicians. But as soon as two white people are killed by minorities, then everybody is up in arms about how unsafe minneapolis is. Then in response, a bunch of white politicians get together to discuss the issue...
Fulcrum
Posted by: Fulcrum at April 12, 2006 10:13 AMThere's some truth to what you say, Fulcrum, in that murders occur in North Minneapolis with regularity without a similar response, although I'd venture what really causes the difference is the prospect of devaluation of the real estate which produces the most tax revenue in Minneapolis.
I'm curious, though; what would people like Samuels say if a governor, a mayor, and police chief were to announce that the protection of the law-abiding residents of North Minneapolis was now a top priority, and thus all first time violent offenders, upon conviction of their first felony involving violence, were going to receive fifty years without parole? That no assault cases would any longer be classified as, or reduced to, misdemeanor status, and thus those committing those crimes would be pulling fifty years without parole?
Such measures would undoubtedly result in many citizens living out their natural lives over many decades, instead of having them cut short by murderers, given that most murderers do not engage in homicide as their first violent offense. I highly suspect, however, that people like Samuels would vocally oppose such effective measures to protect the lives of people he purportedly cares about.
Posted by: Will Allen at April 12, 2006 10:29 AMOK, the problem is ignored by the (ahem, Democrat) rulers of Minneapolis, because the victims are black? So what if the Governor decides to send the Minnesota National Guard in to patrol the bad areas at night? Think anyone will scream racism?
Posted by: Kermit at April 12, 2006 10:47 AM"I think the underlying racism in this issue is pretty evident."
Actually, there's a certain amount of...I almost said "overlying racism" or "bigotry" in your statement, but I'll change it to "Gross presumption".
In the history of this blog, I've written - often - about crimes in the inner city against people of ALL races, because - this may shock you - it's *where I live*.
"But as soon as two white people are killed by minorities, then everybody is up in arms about how unsafe minneapolis is. Then in response, a bunch of white politicians get together to discuss the issue..."
Rubbish. Sorry, Fulcrum, but you're extremely off base. People - myself and other conservative bloggers among them, up to and including Powerline - have written for years about violence in the cities, not in re any particular murder (honkies OR cute kids) for years.
I have responded, also, by NOT fleeing to the 'burbs, but staying and fighting for my city against vermin in both the gangs AND the left wing of the DFL.
Posted by: mitch at April 12, 2006 10:48 AMMitch:
The comments were not directed at you and the blog'o'sphere, but at the media outlets in the Cities, be it newspapers and television coverage - and teh response of our elected "leaders".
I wonder what residents of portions of N. MPLS must think right now? They have had major crime issues there for awhile now, but it never prompted the Gov. to organize a meeting to discuss it. But when two innocent white people are killed in tourist destinations things change? I think this must cause a large amount of consternation in the minority communities...
Personally I think that the politicians should invite a wide variety of leaders from the community, leaders ofthe different cultural and ethnic viewpoints that can present ideas outside of what the white, mainly DFL, politicans will provide.
Fulcrum
Posted by: Fulcrum at April 12, 2006 11:22 AMBill Cosby told a story about the neighborhood fathers where he grew up (Philadelphia I assume.) Once, when they caught a young man selling drugs in the neighborhood, a group of the fathers dragged this kid up to an apartment building roof ledge, and told him "the next time we catch you with drugs, there's going to be a horrible accident right here." Apparently it was a very effective learning experience for the kid.
Posted by: RBMN at April 12, 2006 12:25 PMNow that's what I call peer pressure.
Posted by: Kermit at April 12, 2006 12:28 PMI think that when any "love" needs to be demonstrated, it should come from the mothers (and nominal "fathers" and other extended family) of the kids I've seen running around 7th St at 1-2 a.m. Kids that are not even school age-5 or 6 yrs old! Where's mommy? Turning tricks and getting high? Where's her love for her own kids? Why are complete strangers supposed to love them when their own family can't be bothered? I felt bad for those little guys-they don't have a chance and are probably the shooters by now. BUT, the responsibility lies with those closet to them....or the Samuels of their community because there isn't a thing that white people can do to make it right. Don't butt in-you don't understand our "culture". We're damned if we do and damned if we don't.
Posted by: Colleen at April 12, 2006 12:58 PM"Nobody really cares when the murder reports when minorities are the ones dying - except the occasional Tyesha Edwards story - which generated many stories but no mass action by politicians. But as soon as two white people are killed by minorities, then everybody is up in arms about how unsafe minneapolis is."
Hmmmm, what are the common threads between the Tyesha Edwards story and the downtown shootings. What is different about them and the despicable, constant shootings in North Mpls. Is it because like Tyesha Edwards, the white people were innocent bystanders, unknown to the shooters. The shootings in North Mpls are virtually always between people who know and have issues with each other. Is there some racism to it, yes I believe so, but does it also have to do with the randomness of it? Yes, I believe so. The issue is not so black and white as some might believe it to be.
Posted by: BJB at April 12, 2006 03:38 PMActually, the issue is pretty much black & white, and it isn't racism. That's a canard, a cheap political trick to evade the issue, which is criminal law enforcement.
If you don't enforce the law and instead use every malicious incident as an opportunity to commit sociology, the result is an ever increasing demand for social services and an apparent "reduction" in violent crime, both of which serve the interests of the governing metropolitan elite, but does nothing to protect society and only further encourages the criminal element.
But as someone has said before, THAT'S the government policy the citiots voted for, and that's exactly what they got.
If everybody's a victim, there are no criminals.
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