No question, xenophobia's a real crowd-pleaser for you guys.

Any thoughts on this topic, Colleen?

I guess images of Che Guevara mean nothing to an unreconstructed Trostkyite.

I guess the dozens of American flags in those photos mean nothing to a Bush supporter.

Note to Mexico: you are SO on the invasion list, right after Iran.

Civil war is coming...just an incident, a whiff of grapeshot, an assassination, anything....will touch it off....they will not assimilate, Mitch...

They want Aztlan...

...and the whole ball of wax will go up. Our little Mexican gals in the pictures will not be grining or laughing then......

AngryC....you do not want to light this fuse...

I guess the big sign at the Dallas rally that read "Honkeys! Take your asses back to Europe where they belong" means nothing to an unreconstructed Trotskyite, either.
Hey Clown! Get your ass out of Manhatten. Those friggin Dutch thieves stole it from the Noble Savage.

Y'see, the fact that the best AC can do is mutter "wotta buncha racists" is a good thing. It's untrue, of course - most of us are descended from immigrants ourselves (my grandma grew up speaking Norwegian), and can tell the difference (conceptually) between a legal and illegal immigrant.

The protestors - and the media - are banking that that's not true. Pictures of people waving Che Guevara pix and Mecha flags around don't help the "reformers" much...

And the knee-jerk reaction to a couple banners doesn't do much to expand the Republican base among Spanish-speaking voters who might otherwise be tempted to vote with you on social issues.

Fun to watch Republicans fighting each other.

I already went over my relationship with Hispanics, angryclown/creep. They were my childhood friends and playmates. Legal, red-blooded American kids. Socialist troublemakers leaching off of a host country they badmouth...that's a whole 'nother story.

My Grandpa immigrated from Germany and would not speak German to his daughters no matter how hard they asked. And we sure as heck never heard any from him. That was the past. (It's too bad-they would have liked to learn some), but that's how badly people wanted to assimilate in those days.

Dunno, AC. Latinos that've been in the US for more than a couple of generations poll both very pro-GOP and pretty anti-illegal.

Might not be quite as clearcut as you think...

"Fun to watch Republicans fighting each other."

Some things are more important than partisan politics. I'm not surprised this would come as a shock to a liberal. After all, partisan politics is your religion.

"Some things are more important than partisan politics. I'm not surprised this would come as a shock to a liberal. After all, partisan politics is your religion."

I can imagine nothing more useless or unconvincing than a conservative accusing a liberal of worshipping at the altar of partisan politics - or vice versa.

"Y'all are going to re-unite the GOP yet."

Looky there Vern! Thum thar janitors is holdin' up a pick-chur of that Shea Stadium queer! Let's re-ignite and hold on to the majuri...the magorital...the mavur...the goddamm guvmint!

Oh, Tim you shouldn't rag liberals like that!

"I can imagine nothing more useless or unconvincing than a conservative accusing a liberal of worshipping at the altar of partisan politics - or vice versa."

Yeah the conservatives sure lined up in lock-step behind the Harriet Miers nomination, didn't they?

Hey AC - what are you going to say to a Latina who just happens to be FOR closing the borders to illegals and making those that came here illegally go about the process in the correct way? You gonna call her a racist too?

FYI - the Latina in question would be me.

"Yeah the conservatives sure lined up in lock-step behind the Harriet Miers nomination, didn't they?"

Apart from the fact that everyone is occasionally capable of recognizing a thoroughly boneheaded move when they see one no matter what their politics, Kermit, way to completely miss the point.

All I was saying was that a comment like "Some things are more important than partisan politics. I'm not surprised this would come as a shock to a liberal. After all, partisan politics is your religion" is about as pot-calling-the-kettle-black (or mote/plank, if you prefer your metaphors biblical) as you can get. Both sides are often guilty of playing politics instead of working toward something positive, and failing to recognize it in your own side is just plain naive.

This is a crowd that would throw red roses if Fidel Castro showed up--not rotten tomatoes like they should. I think that's pretty clear just from listening to their speeches. If that's the case, then the American flags are just stage props. The same Republicans that are supposedly racist would love to see more Cuban defectors come, seeking asylum. I’d love it. At least the Cuban defectors understand why America is so important, and so special.

Come on, guys. Let's give these marchers some credit. At least they SPELLED their signs CORRECTLY! Which is more than I can say for when the moonbat liberal loonies (you know who you are) go for a little march. Or protest. They can't spell to save their butts.

These people are illegal aliens and can actually spell in English! Give 'em credit!

Question: what do you suppose the likelihood is that immigration will become a featured topic at this Saturday's tax protest at the Capitol?

Actually Dave if you look through my pictures, you'll see that in some cases they could NOT spell correctly.

You mean like this Dave...?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/images/morans.jpg

I'd love to wear one of these shirts at the next rally:
http://www.che-mart.com

Opposition to illegal immigration is one issue where I agree with you, Mitch. The Dems pusillanimous, wait-and-see posture on this issue is why I remain a registered Independent.

Isn't it interesting that you can go anywhere in the world and find professionslly prepared spontaneous protest signs.

"Morans" it should be noted, is a punnish jab at the supporters of Jim Moran, Democratic representative from Virginia.

Nancy said,

"I'd love to wear one of these shirts at the next rally:"

I'd love to see it. Maybe you and Phil Parlock can carpool together. Oh, and make sure to bring your children so you have a good story about mean liberals to tell the rest of the class...

And Max, yes, thats the excuse that circulated through freeper world. I'm not exactly sure why a bunch of anti-Moran protesters would gather in the first place and feel it necessary to fly American Flags, hold "Go USA" signs and wear Flag head gear but hey, whatever...

I guess your right though after noticing the kid in the photo off to the right holding the "Free Ripublic" sign...

Not mean liberals, Doug. Angry liberals. Jeez, get your stereotypes straight.

Sorry kermit. I figured angry liberals was implied through "mean" liberals.

Say, how about that whole "I don't know NUTHIN' 'bout leaking classified information" thing...

Now THAT'S funny!

Is information classified if, as Chief Executive you have made the decision, completely within your authority, to de-classify it?

Kermit, you are right, he did de-classify the information.

But he declassified information to make a political attack against someone who provided accurate information against the war. Talk about restoring honesty and decency to the white house...

Fulcrum

No, he declassified information to answer a political attack made by a partisan with an agenda. Joe Wilson was sent to Niger to help rehabilitate the CIA by focusing the blame on Bush. It's no secret that there was contention between the White House and Langley. George Tennant was a Clinton appointee. Joe Wilson was a DNC operative. His wife got him the job of going to Niger. It was a classic setup.
I guess no one has ever accused CIA of "honesty and decency".

Fulcrum -- Read Hitchens in Slate: http://www.slate.com/id/2139609/
Pesky part about the yellow cake story is it was true. The document saying the sale was a done deal was clearly a forgery (fake but accurate -- you'd think the left would appreciate the distinction), but it is fact that Iraq sent envoys to Niger to RE-start sourcing of uranium. Wilson tried to discredit the administration, they declassified the information.

In Wilson's NY Times editorial he stated, "It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place."

How is this discrediting the adminstration - by telling the truth?

I did re-read his piece quickly, but I didn't notice anywhere where it says that they were not attempts made. That was never discussed in the piece at all. All he seemed to have investigated was, "did the sale take place per the forged document."

Then again this is how teh current adminstration has brought honesty to the WH, by "discrediting" anyone who has the gumption to tell the truth.

Fulcrum

In Wilson's NY Times editorial he stated, "It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place."

I'm sure it didn't.

"Well Mr. Wilson, Are you satisified? The Iraqi's were never here. Honest!"

"Good enough for me. Say, is there any more shrimp cocktail?"

Yup. Didn't take long at all.
It's easy to not find something you don't want to find.

Kermit, you forgot the line that Wilson claimed that Cheney sent him.

To be an effective hack, you have to get ALL of the talking points in.

Also kermit, you ask, Is information classified if, as Chief Executive you have made the decision, completely within your authority, to de-classify it?"

The information was classified. Something like 10 days after it was leaked, it was officially declassified.

From the time it was leaked to the press and the time the White House officially declassified the information, the White House denied any knowledge about who leaked the information AND the President vowed - VOWED I TELL YOU!!! to get to the bottom of who leaked...

I remember saying as soon as the leak was made public, Bush and O.J. will get together and see to it that the real perpetrators get caught... Now the O.J. comparison is all the rage... Gosh, I'm clever...

Bush lied and poor Scotty was forced to lie too... Awwww....

Thank God Bush didn't get a hummer from a chubby intern though and lie about that because you'd be all over that demanding impeachment RIGHT??? Oh, that's right, Mr. Bush refused to testify under oath when he testified about the intelligence failures... Na Na Na, Na Ma Na... You can't touch me!!!

Also, Bush declassified bits and pieces that made his case for war but convienently left out the bits that may raised legitimate arguments for NOT going to war. Hmmmm... Isn't that special...

Finally, you said, "Joe Wilson was sent to Niger to help rehabilitate the CIA by focusing the blame on Bush."

The CIA told him not to include suspect information in the State of The Union Address. Bush did it anyway. When Bush said he was going to bring accountability back to the White House, I did not realize he was refering to everyone but himself.

The day of reckoning is at hand say'th the Lord...

I almost feel sorry for Republicans.... Na... Not really.

The information that was properly declassified and released proved Joe Wilson was a liar.

Hard to wrap your head around that, Doug?

"The day of reckoning is at hand..."

What? Again?

How many "days of reckoning" has that been in the past five years?

Max, please explain this:

"The information that was properly declassified and released proved Joe Wilson was a liar."

What did he specifically lie about?

Fulcrum

Kermit also forgot to mention the years of service Mr. Wilson provided to Republican Presidents or the donations made to Republican Candidates, quite the DNC operative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_wilson

Fulcrum

Hey Mitch,

I had a couple days off and I'm getting in the "war On Easter Spirit"...

http://www.waroneaster.org/

I thought I would try speaking like a Bible thumper so I can infiltrate a few Churches...

Did you like the Say'th the Lord schtick? I got that one from Pastor Robert Tilton - my all time favorite TEE_VEE funda-mental-ist Christian...

Fulcrum said,

Kermit also forgot to mention the years of service Mr. Wilson provided to Republican Presidents or the donations made to Republican Candidates, quite the DNC operative.

See, that's where the plan gets really brilliant... Plant a DNC operative in a position as a diplomat serving both Democratic AND Republican Presidents who can then years later infiltrate the inner circles of the CIA to execute a plan to discredit a Republican President that hasn't even been elected yet.

And they say we Democrats have no plan... HA!

And through it all, there must be, HAS to be, something that Bush did that was illegal. There just HAS to be!

Oh dear. A Day of Reckoning. Most impressive. Kinda like that Day of Reckoning we had the first Tuesday, November 2004.

Kermit,

I never said it was illegal. I am curious though if you think it was ok to lie about the leak?

What is this actually about?
http://baddablogger.blogspot.com/2006/04/dignity-for-america.html

Doug, George Bush is a politician. Just like Kerry. Just like Pelosi. How do you tell if a politician is lieing? (you know the punchline)
These two camps are playing hardball. The only difference I percieve is that Bush is doing what he's doing for the good of the country, and the Democrats are doing what they're doing for the good of the Democrats.
It's not that complicated, really.

So, we've established that Bush is in fact a liar.

That's a good start.

Now kermit, you believe that "Bush is doing what he's doing for the good of the country".

Just so I'm sure I understand... Bush is lying. You know he's lying. You're ok with him lying because you agree with his ideological goals.

How am I doing so far...?

Where were we...? Oh yeah... Bush lied about the leaking of the intelligence report. You've acknowledged as much and you're right, it's not a crime to lie to the American people - when addressing the American people - when he's not under oath. Fine.

It is however a crime for ANYONE to mislead or lie to federal investigators - whether they are under oath or not.

So this boils down to one simple question. Did the President tell the investigators the same thing he told us? Remember, he told the American people, that he knew nothing about the leaks and wanted to find and fire all leakers. That was a lie and we now know it.

If he told federal investigators the same thing, he committed a federal crime of obstruction.

I'm sure you remember the last President we had.

His name was Clinton and he was impeached after being charged with TWO crimes. Perjury and obstruction of justice.

Now, Bush says that he leaked the intelligence data so the American people could see why he was making the decisions that he was making.

The only problem is that he only released selective bits that supported his decisions. If he had released ALL of it, the American people would have seen information that DIDN'T support his decisions.

The question for you is, will Republicans hold Bush to the same standard that you held Clinton?

My guess is you won't because, while you guys talk tough, you don't have the balls to do what's right.

As I said in earlier posts, Republicans would be smart to take the censure for Bush. They could reasonably argue later that impeachment would be redundant since he's already been admonished with the censure.

I hope they don't do it though because I would LOVE to see Bush face the American people and be forced to answer for his crimes.

Oh, and speaking of lies...

Lacking Biolabs, Trailers Carried Case for War
Administration Pushed Notion of Banned Iraqi Weapons Despite Evidence to Contrary

By Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 12, 2006; A01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/11/AR2006041101888_pf.html

On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad, President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. and Kurdish troops had turned out to be long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have found the weapons of mass destruction."

The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.

A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now -- had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.

Read it all...

What was that you said kermit...? "The only difference I percieve is that Bush is doing what he's doing for the good of the country..."

How exactly is lying to justify your decision "for the good of the country"???

Doug, as hard as this may be for you to understand, Bush DID NOT testify to anyone (unlike Clinton, who DID perjure himself). He DID NOT lie about WMD. He Was justified in invading Iraq by several other reasons.
By all means, try to censure Bush for trying to keep America safe. See how that plays out with the public. Make sure you're waving a Mexican flag while you're doing it.
You can say "Bush lied!" till you're blue in the face. It makes absolutely no difference. But you never told your kids about Santa Claus, so you occupy the moral high ground. Good for you.

Well, if it's reported in The Washington Post, then it must be true, of course. The Washington Post never lies. It always tells the truth, just like The New York Times.

Money quote: "Two teams of military experts who viewed the trailers soon after their discovery concluded that the facilities were weapons labs, a finding that strongly influenced views of intelligence officials in Washington, the analysts said. "It was hotly debated, and there were experts making arguments on both sides," said one former senior official who spoke on the condition that he not be identified."

So, buried in the middle of the story we learn there were 3 teams investigating the trailers. Two of three concluded the trailers were weapons labs, and one concluded they were not. Guess which report The Washington Post now emphasizes as "news" to whip up the moonbat frenzy, with nary a reference to an identified source.

It's called propaganda, Doug.

Kermit said,

"Doug, as hard as this may be for you to understand, Bush DID NOT testify to anyone"

Your right kermit... He didn't "testify". He only agreed to be interviewed by Fitzgerald.

And if he told Fitzgerald the same thing he told us, he lied and he obstructed.

As hard as it is for you to accept, your President is a liar who got us into a war using information he knew to be false.

For the record kermit, Clinton was "interviewed" at least seven times before he was called to "testify" where he perjured himself.

If Bush is called to testify in front of a grand jury, you know what will happen. He'll claim that he can't for reasons of national security. I'm sure you'll open up and swallow that one too kermit.

Do they supply you guys with kneepads at Republican training school?

I'm not a Republican, Doug.

And yet kermit, you do such a fine job of playing one...

I think I know why. My daughter has a friend named Alex. Both my wife and I are convcinced he's Republican because of his mannerisms, the way he talks and also, I don't think he's ever had a girlfriend.

Anyway, I guess he swears he's not but even most of his friends are positive that he is.

I guess it's possible that he hasn't figured it out yet or he's afraid of how his parents will react. My daughter has had other friends who came out as Republican and their parents completely disowned them. It's pretty sad.

So anyway Kermit, Maybe you're like Alex. maybe it's time you come out. Nobodys going to think any less of you. Hell, no one thinks much of you to begin with so thinking less of you won't be an issue.

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