I think Air America has been reborn on 100.3fm
and some parts of am1500. Thank you for the only conservative outlet remaining in MN. AM 1280.

Sorry, Mitch. AM1280 Hateriot Radio has been running ads encouraging people to attend Republican caucuses. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that.

There's a difference there. The Democratic Party doesn't like to acknowledge that 950 exists, so doesn't advertise there. Because of that, Air America Minnesota wants to pass crap out at their caucuses.

The Republican Party acknowledges 1280's existence, and, therefore, advertises with them to get people to come to the caucuses.

What's the difference? Just about every registered Republican who'll be at the caucuses already knows about the Patriot. Air America is still trying to convince diehard Dems that they're little more than a fart on a snare drum.

Snare drum? More like a bongo, man.

Well, its incredibly tacky, handing stuff like that out inside the caucus area. Just as bad as those people who stick flyers on your car windshields.

"Sorry, Mitch. AM1280 Hateriot Radio has been running ads encouraging people to attend Republican caucuses. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that."

I think Mitch's point was not that a radio station was encouraging people to attend a particular caucus but rather that they were trying to use it as a forum to distribute materials.

You're kidding right? Why is it that Marketing 101 suddenly flies out of your head when anything remotely liberal or DFL related pops up? Would you rather them hand them out at the Chamber of Commerce meeting, Keegans, or one of the Patriot's picnics? Ethics...get out of here. It's basic marketing.

cp

"Would you rather them hand them out at the Chamber of Commerce meeting, Keegans, or one of the Patriot's picnics? Ethics...get out of here. It's basic marketing."

Mr. Sponge, I'd call it "desperate marketing." Air America may be losing its flagship station in NYC, and two markets switched the affiliate off (Phoenix and Missoula).

Source: http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2006/03/wlib-air-america-new-york-city-icbc.html

Heh. Desperate marketing. Coming soon to a DFL Caucus near you.

RE: Desperate marketing. We'll agree to that as long as you say that's what Mark Kennedy's ads will be when they air on AM1280 later in the year.

cp

Well Mr. Sponge first I have to say that your moniker fits a DFL appologist quite well. Second, if Mr. Kennedy runs a good campaign rather than run away like patheic, congenital idiot, yellow-belly Mark Dayton (is it safe for him to go back to Washington yet?) I think we will see some rather positive marketing. After all, negativity is the DFL's hallmark.

Sponge,

For starters: All condescencion is a very bad idea; especially if you're unqualified to do it. I KNOW it's marketing (duh). The question wasn't "what is this?", it's "isn't handing out advertising for a commercial venture at a political caucus kinda tacky?"

It is.

Mitch said..

"For starters: All condescencion is a very bad idea; especially if you're unqualified to do it."

Wow, I certainly know THAT wasn't condescending. BTW Mitch, considering how pedantic you are, you might want to spell a bit better. I spell poorly, but rarely do I lord over people my writing skills.

I KNOW it's marketing (duh). (and that wasn't condescending either - but wait, goose meet gander has never been a theme at Casa De BergShot)

and...Well then, you question was dumb, (duh). Boy, isn't consdescension fun :)!

"The question wasn't "what is this?", it's "isn't handing out advertising for a commercial venture at a political caucus kinda tacky?"

It is."

Then it also wasn't a question. It was a statement, which was "it's tacky", to which his response was, actually, it's marketing, which can often be tacky, and makes your twisting of it into a question, when it wasn't, pretty much just verbose nonsense.

As for class-action suit, well, you go get a bunch of people who attend the Dem caucus who are actually HARMED to sign-up in your class listing, and then try it. Rots of Ruck as they say. I think 950 shouldn't do such a thing, it's more than tacky, it's breaching the election process, but considering Kiffmeyer's ridiculous posting of terrorist warnings, like YOU and YOUR's have a thing to complain about. Pot meet Kettle, once again.

Beyond that Mitch, candidly, there isn't a single thing illegal about it. You can't advertise at a political causus as a commercial entity, but you certainly can have a conversation and offer up anything you want as a private citizen as far as I know. As neither you nor I are lawyers, perhaps we'd both be best served not pretending to be one, either by asking about whether you can file a suit or by suggesting I know anything about it - which I probably don't.(and gosh, how shocking the "responsibility party" and the "tort reform" party would look to file suits - ok, it's not at all, but I thought I'd toss in that zinger).

Mitch, seriously, do you have a single objection to raise that your extreme wing of the not-conservative at all Republican party hasnt' already done in spades about a 100 times over?

Irrelevant again in PlanetMitch.. you need to start a shop, you've got the market cornered.

PB

"Irrelevant again in PlanetMitch" says Peeb.

Then why on earth to you continue with the insanely long dissertations on such "irrelevant" posts?

PB, does it take long to dislodge the hook from your mouth whenever Mitch writes something that borderline taunts you?

Sponge,

"We'll agree to that as long as you say that's what Mark Kennedy's ads will be when they air on AM1280 later in the year."

Mark Kennedy will be using a political caucus to advertise for a commercial venture?

Who knew?

PB

"Then it also wasn't a question. It was a statement, which was "it's tacky",

Er. Yeah.

The term you're looking for is "rhetorical question", which is to say a question where everyone already knows the answer.

"As for class-action suit, well, you go get a bunch of people who attend the Dem caucus who are actually HARMED to sign-up in your class listing, and then try it. Rots of Ruck as they say."

Now, the term we're looking for is "joke". Y'know - because Dems are always...legislating from...er, the bench...

(sigh)

Now, P - first you say...

"Beyond that Mitch, candidly, there isn't a single thing illegal about it."

Well, no kidding. But then you say...

" You can't advertise at a political causus as a commercial entity,"

You mean, like, handing out AM950 promotional stickers? Is THAT the kind of advertising you say you "can't do at caucuses?"

The same, exact kind being proposed in the email I posted? Asking listeners "If you would like to take some AM950 BUMPER STICKERS with you on Tuesday to put on a table, stop by the office at 11320 Valley View Road", and act as unpaid promotions flacks for the station?

" but you certainly can have a conversation and offer up anything you want as a private citizen as far as I know."

Right. So if one were to, say, "start a conversation" by having a bunch of employees from, for instance, a financial services institution put brochures on the table at the caucus, that'd be different how?

" As neither you nor I are lawyers, perhaps we'd both be best served not pretending to be one,"

I'm enough of a fake lawyer to know how to read the First Amendment.

"how shocking the "responsibility party" and the "tort reform" party would look to file suits"

The word you're looking for is "ironic".

"Mitch, seriously, do you have a single objection to raise that your extreme wing of the not-conservative at all Republican party hasnt' already done in spades about a 100 times over?"

What, do I gotta do ALL the work around here?

Mitch,

Are you seriously that thick? Seriously??!

Do you need a map? Really?

You can't overtly advertise (probably), you CAN ask someone to hand out a bumper sticker. You are a decent writer, but a poor logician. Stick with writing, but don't try law. Regardless, considering the Neo-Cons want to try to add Gay Marriage to the ballot, as if you have anything to stand on.

As for this..
I'm enough of a fake lawyer to know how to read the First Amendment.
Mostly Mitch, I find that people who THINK they know the law, are the ones who most misinterpret it. I spent 5 years working as a compliance officer for a major corp, it taught me that pretending to know the law is foolish. I suspect your understanding of the 1st Ammendment is lacking, especially if you think you could file a suit. But grow a pair if you think you SHOULD file a suit, because you don't have any CLASS (i.e. the group of people you'd need), but rather would have to do so on your own. The reason is simple, no real harm can come from their action. I suppose another radio station COULD claim harm (somehow) IF they wanted to also hand out bumper stickers AND were denied, but then the suit would be against the state.

It's funny how threatened you seem by 950. They are a pipsqueek of a station, and while 1280 isn't much more, and really LESS than 950 considering the comparative maturities, I certainly DON'T think you've got much to worry about. There will be hate-filled bigots around to listen to the Hatriot for a long time to come.

Anyway, as a better writer than either you or I recently wrote -

I'm really not sure at this point that the country and the world will survive three more years of this bumbling, deceitful, artificial, and thoroughly mediocre man - N. Tomansky (The Prospect).

Complain all you want. It's apparently all you know how to do, attack attack attack, though you have all branches of the Government, you know nothing apparently about how to lead, you merely are able to be venemous. Carve a path, try at least, and put up with criticism when you screw up, defend the policy if it's right, criticize it if it's wrong, but LEAD.

You all seem stuck in Lee Atwater amber.

PB

"The question wasn't "what is this?", it's "isn't handing out advertising for a commercial venture at a political caucus kinda tacky?"

Actually, this was the question:

"I'm sure that's legal. The ethics, I think, are kind of funky.

I don't think I've ever seen "AM1280" or "Evil Talk Empire" giveaways at precinct caucuses - anyone?

Do we have the basis for a class action suit here? Anything?"

We've been warned not to use condescencion, but that's the best definition of tacky we've ever seen. But, we're probably wrong...after all, you know marketing. Maybe the lingo's different.

Please feel free to cut and paste away with our cut and paste.

cp

"Mitch,

Are you seriously that thick? Seriously??"

Seriously?

As usual, you and your bloated self-importance are what is thick, PB. Nothing about my post was "serious", except the original email.

Get over yourself.

Mitch.. once again proving an inability to not have to have the last word... I'd say I'm shocked, but that would be a lie, and unlike Mitch, I try to refrain from that.

So Mitch, given that Elizabeth Dole sent out A GOP fundraising letter disguised as an IRS form, where exactly does your black kettle think it should meet the pot?

PB

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