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January 24, 2006

Unclear On The Concept

From a Kos thread the other day:

Who better to reveal the Republicans' Orwellian plan that the man who probably leaked highly classified national security secrets to the press, endangering precious lives and secret institutions in the process. [I think she's talking about Valerie Plame - whose life was never endangered, and whose vocation was known to everyone in Washington. But I digress] The Republicans will continue their dishonorable crusade of labeling us cowards. They'll keep foaming at the mouth and claiming our dissent gives aid and comfort to the enemy.
From Osama Bin Laden's latest tape:
Bush and his administration do not have the will or the ability to get out of Iraq for their own private, suspect reasons.

And so to return to the issue, I say that results of polls please those who are sensible, and Bush's opposition to them is a mistake.

Could be Paul Begala, to say nothing of a Kossack.

Don't look at me. Look at Bin Laden. He said it.

Posted by Mitch at January 24, 2006 06:00 AM | TrackBack
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"I think she's talking about Valerie Plame . . . whose vocation was known to everyone in Washington."

This statement is false. Please name 4 people in D.C. who have gone on record saying they knew that VP was a CIA operative. Joe Wilson, CIA employees, and others legally entitled to such information do not count. Hearsay evidence does not count.

Posted by: RickDFL at January 24, 2006 10:30 AM

Ah, so if I only name three it doesn't count?

It's been reported, over and over, that everyone in the executive branch that mattered knew that Joe Wilson's wife was a spook.

Posted by: mitch at January 24, 2006 11:09 AM

"everyone in the executive branch that mattered knew that Joe Wilson's wife was a spook"

I would hope that the executive branch knew who was working for the CIA, cause like well they pay them and supervise them.

The whole point was that they (Rove and Libby)were not supposed to tell other people like Judy Miller, Bob Novak, and Matt Copper, because it was like against the law.

So I will name that song in two notes. Give me the names of two people, not legally entitled to be in the know, who have said that they knew she was a CIA operative. Again Joe Wilson does not count.

Posted by: RickDFL at January 24, 2006 11:58 AM

Fidel Castro may be one. Reportedly Plame was outed by Aldrich Ames, the victim of an illegal unwaranted search by B. Clinton.

Posted by: punslinger at January 24, 2006 12:43 PM

Democrats - Too tough on traitors. I like it!

Still no word from our host. How about one name? And no, Joe Wilson still does not count.

Posted by: RickDFL at January 24, 2006 03:08 PM

OK I will settle for half a name, first or last, makes no difference.

Alas 'Joe' and 'Wilson', still do not count.

Posted by: RickDFL at January 24, 2006 04:15 PM

One name: Fred Rustmann:

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050715-121257-9887r.htm

" A former CIA covert agent who supervised Mrs. Plame early in her career yesterday took issue with her identification as an "undercover agent," saying that she worked for more than five years at the agency's headquarters in Langley and that most of her neighbors and friends knew that she was a CIA employee.
"She made no bones about the fact that she was an agency employee and her husband was a diplomat," Fred Rustmann, a covert agent from 1966 to 1990, told The Washington Times. "

Name Two Through ???: Everyone who ever read Joe Wilson's resume. According to John Podhoretz, Wilson mentioned Val's name and occupation in his consulting company's literature.

Can I have Newcastle instead?

Posted by: mitch at January 24, 2006 09:55 PM

Sorry no beer.

Mr. Rusthmann was VPs supervisor at the CIA. He knew her identity b/c that was his job. Don't you feel just a little pathetic trying to prove that 'everyone in DC' knew VP was a CIA NOC by citing her supervisor. It is sort of like proving everyone knows Madonna's 'real' haircolor by citing her stylist.

His comments about what her neighbors may or may not know are hearsay evidence. In fact the only actual VP neighbor quoted in the article you cite says they did not know VP worked for the CIA.

I am sure is was not for lack of trying that the Wash Times could not find a neighbor to go on record saying VP was CIA.

As for the consulting company lit. I will have to see the article, but there be nothing wrong with referencing her cover job. That is the whole point of a cover job.

Come on Mitch. A man admits his mistakes.

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