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June 14, 2005

Bloodbath With Ignominy

Although I grew up plenty liberal, there were things that began my disenchantment earlier. Jimmy Carter, sure - but before that, even back in sixth and seventh grade I thought that our abandonment of South Vietnam was a wretched display of national pusillanimity.

The phrase "Peace with Honor" struck me, even then - and more so as millions of Vietnamese left the country, a human wave that even washed up in North Dakota in some numbers - as the sort of self-justifying rationalization worthy of a not-very-bright third-grader.

It's baaaaaack.

They're exhuming the
idea again , and again.

Further proof that the left has no new ideas at all. All the thinking was done for them thirty years ago - all that remains is the picketing and the demonstrating and mounting the media campaign showing that leaving the Iraqi people to the tender mercies of the foreign terrorists and Ba'athist holdouts is really not such a bad thing; that Iraqis, silly little brown people, just don't care about democracy; that it really won't be that bad; that there as no problem in the first place.

It's well underway, of course.

Posted by Mitch at June 14, 2005 06:17 AM | TrackBack
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Shot in the Dark's hot meme of the moment: "Non-supporters of war are crypto-racists." It's been gathering steam for the last few days, even spilling over into the New Patriot's comments.

"You hate America AND inconvenient yellow/brown people!"

Posted by: Ernst Stavro Blofeld at June 14, 2005 12:19 PM

Ernst, this is a one-size-fits-all meme. Anti-war protesters, most prominently Michael Moore, claimed that "killing brown people" was the stated goal of the United States in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Hurts, don't it?

Posted by: Pious Agnostic at June 14, 2005 01:35 PM

Mr. Blofeld,

The vast majority of the left's references to deaths in Iraq ignore - sometimes only with the aid of Kerri Strug-like logical gymnastics - the considerable number of Iraqis that died at Hussein's hands; the considerable number of Iraqis who are alive today, who would have died at Hussein's hands had he been in power these last two years.

You can call it a sin of omission, or of commission; you can name the sin whatever you want, racism or fuzzy logic or ethical convenience or ethnocentric concern. But at the end of the day, someone's not looking out for their semitic brothers in humanity.

Posted by: mitch at June 14, 2005 02:45 PM

It must be a spandex meme if one size fits Mitch and Michael Moore. And no Hertz Donut, thank you. Just hand me the keys to my rental.

Posted by: Ernst Stavro Blofeld at June 14, 2005 03:07 PM

Mitch, please. Call me Ernst.

You needn't back-pedal (on our motives for being in Iraq) so hard. I can give you a ride in my Hertz. We can even go back to the rental agency for a donut.

Posted by: Ernst Stavro Blofeld at June 14, 2005 03:13 PM

The Left is truly stuck in a time warp. They were wrong in the 60s and they are still wrong. Even a stopped clock is right eventually. Who knows, maybe the libs will one day be right about something.

Posted by: Van Helsing at June 14, 2005 03:13 PM

Anyone else notice how Ernst Stavro Blofeld makes chiding little remarks without even remotely addressing the point at hand?

I'll now await as Ernst comes up with a pithy comment in response to me, complete with references to "hot meme," "Hertz Donut," and "spandex." I'm sure the results will be FanTAStic.

Posted by: Ryan at June 14, 2005 04:07 PM

Ryan: I prefer to keep my points pointed and to leave fisting to the sofas.

Posted by: Ernst Stavro Blofeld at June 14, 2005 04:45 PM

Fisking! Sophists!

Posted by: Ernst Stavro Blofeld at June 14, 2005 04:46 PM

Ernst,

I, for one, have never backpedalled on motives for being in Iraq. There are four, three of them as good today as they day they were born, one of them spawned by an intelligence error only laid to rest by force of arms.

Pedalling forward, always...

Posted by: mitch at June 14, 2005 04:55 PM

Now I'm stuck with this mental image of Ernst frantically fisting his sofa. Poor sofa.

Posted by: Ryan at June 14, 2005 06:50 PM

You're fuzzy on subjects and predicates, Ryan. The sofa's doing the fisting in my typo. Your imagery was apt, however, when I misplaced my mobile phone last week.

Mitch: This crummy conflict was sold effectively on the venal exploitation of our nightmares, not altruism. Try now to sell a war for somebody else's peace and democracy to John Q. Public for $200+ billion and 1,700 dead and you'll find more than half (56% - ABC/WashPo) of America is crypto-racist.

Posted by: Ernst Stavro Blofeld at June 14, 2005 10:56 PM

E-Blo,

"This crummy conflict was sold effectively on the venal exploitation of our nightmares, not altruism."

Again with Berg's Law - "no liberal commentator can simultaneously address more than one of the justifications for the war. To do so would invalidate their attack". We had a nightmare - 9/11 - AND a credible belief that Iraq was building WMD (dead, so far) and linking with terrorists (true), that they'd flouted the UN (true), AND were one of the world's worst human rights offenders. Removing Hussein was CLINTON-era policy.

" Try now to sell a war for somebody else's peace and democracy to John Q. Public for $200+ billion and 1,700 dead and you'll find more than half (56% - ABC/WashPo) of America is crypto-racist."

a) But it's not selling peace and democracy...alone.

b) Polls depend entirely on the questions asked. Citing them without linking their methodologym or at least the questions asked, is pointless.

Posted by: mitch at June 15, 2005 09:42 AM
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