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June 09, 2005

Embarassment of Riches Embarassment

I was running a few errands on my way to work this morning, and I caught a few minutes of both Nick Coleman and Wild Wendy.

Nice to see that a week's break from them hasn't made them any smarter-sounding.

Coleman displayed that keen intellect we've come to love in the closing segment of his show, saying (closely paraphrasing, since I don't have a recorder in the car) that we should notice the hypocrisy of conservatives looove Ann Coulter as she "calls for Liberals to be executed"...while the wingnuts throw a fit over Howard Dean for noting that the GOP is "controlled" by "snake-handlers" who "aren't even Christian".

School's in, Nick. Not all of us regard Coulter as much more than entertainment. Where was she sitting at the last GOP convention (compared to Michael Moore at the DNC?) But Howard Dean? He's the Chairmanperson of the party whose monkey you are!

I flipped on Wild Wendy a few minutes later. She was popping a gasket over the Strib's coverage of the Hatch Grrl Riot. I couldn't figure out what was more idiotic:

  • Her claim that (again, closely paraphrasing) "...in Minnesota, peoples' families are off limits". Really? Like Rod Gram's family (actually a son whose custodial parent Rod had not been in many years!) was "off limits" to the media? That kind of off limits?
  • She closed by saying (or rather I turned off the radio after she said) the story was an example of (again, closely paraphrasing) "the Star/Tribune's right-wing bias"
Huh. The Strib is really right-wing.

Who knew?

What's going on here is that the local lefty establishment (tangential note to local lefties - Nick Coleman and Wild Wendy are your establishment!) is trying to create a meme - that the metro left, after four decades of control over the state, and continuing rigid, unthinking control of the Metro, the lefty media establishment want you, the "progressive", to believe that you are a beleaguered, put-upon victim!

Lefties - are you victims?

Posted by Mitch at June 9, 2005 12:27 PM | TrackBack
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"...in Minnesota, peoples' families are off limits"

Pity then that this happened in Illinois.

Posted by: Thorley Winston at June 9, 2005 10:54 AM

Mitch- I heard parts of Coleman's show today as well as Wilde's hilarious attempt to demonstrate conservative bias in the Star Tribune. Yes, she was completely serious. I had the exact same thought about Morgan Grams. Yeah, the Strib really let ol' Rod off the hook for his son's behavior back then, didn't they?

In some ways, Wilde is actually more out there than Coleman, and thus even more entertaining to listen to (and laugh at).

The best part of Coleman's show was when he talked about how dissent has almost been extinguished in America (this from a guy with a daily two hour radio show and thrice weekly columns in the dominant newspaper in town) and when caller after caller defended Howard Dean and asked for more of the same from him. I couldn't agree with them more. Bring him on.

Posted by: the elder at June 9, 2005 11:19 AM

The Morgan Grams episode lasted from about June 2000 right through the election. In the newspapers, on the radio, and on TV.

The Hatch chicks have gotten very limited coverage, but what HAS come out is terribly interesting. One of the bimbos actually thought that telling the police or the bar staff that she was the daughter of the Minnesota Attorney General had some merit.

That the Hatch chicks are showing is how they were raised: Conceited, not listening to authorities, believing they are more important than anyone else.

Just like Daddy. Just like Mike.

Posted by: Dave at June 9, 2005 11:58 AM

I'm one of those Air America listeners who find listening to the enemy more entertaining than hearing my own opinions voiced over and over again on AM1500. What i've noticed is a huge difference in conservative vs liberal radio. Check out AM1500 or 1280 and you'll hear plain facts and figures and when discussing comments by a politician you'll hear logical arguements picking apart the comments. On Air America I hear the Jerry Springer show of talk radio, nothing but name calling and lie this and lie that without a substantial arguement proving the claims they make. Sure it makes for my morning entertainment but its transparent that the left has no real arguement so they have Nick and Wendy to act Shrill to get the union advertising money.

Posted by: John Gall at June 9, 2005 12:25 PM

From what I recall, the Grams kid wasn't on good terms with his dad...and was basically getting into trouble to undercut his dad. It was only fair that the media drag that out for months on the airwaves and in the press. After all, just because Rod hadn't been involved much with the kid for years doesn't mean we shouldn't blame him for his kid's actions.

The Hatch girls, on the other hand, were rich, spoiled, drunken brats, trying to use their Dad's name to get out of trouble.

It figures that the liberal media would side with the rich, spoiled drunken brats, doesn't it?

I will say that as long as Mike Hatch didn't do anything unethical (e.g. using your political position to get your kids out of trouble), that he shouldn't be blamed for his kids' actions. He should be judged on the merits of his job performance...so he should be canned.

Posted by: Lyle at June 9, 2005 02:15 PM

I do think Hatch has behaved ethically, from what we've seen.

As to Grams - well, there we're seeing a failure of the family court system. I'm not sure of the nature of Grams' uninvolvement; if it was voluntary, that's pretty lame. If it was because his ex took the kids and moved and left him in an untenable situation - not so much.

It happens a lot.

Posted by: mitch at June 9, 2005 02:30 PM

If the Strib is a right-wing paper, North Korea's state-run news service must be right about at the center. So what's on the left?

Posted by: Eric Beltt at June 9, 2005 06:17 PM

"Check out AM1500 or 1280 and you'll hear plain facts and figures and when discussing comments by a politician you'll hear logical arguements..."

I take it you've never heard Laura Ingraham or Michael Medved...

Posted by: Tim at June 9, 2005 07:06 PM

Tim,

The fact that you think Medved does not argue logically tells me you've never listened to him yourself.

Posted by: JamesPh. at June 9, 2005 10:18 PM

Medved usually lets his liberal guest hang themselves. What I like about Medved, is that his callers are usually oppositional, and when they make a valid point, he acknowledges it.

Air America hosts rarely take callers, and when they do, they appear to be heavily screened. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the show actually calls the listeners at there homes.

Posted by: rick at June 9, 2005 10:57 PM

Tim,

James and Rick pretty well made the point for me; there is probably no bigger a stickler for facts anywhere in talk radio than Medved.

Ingraham is not as good, but she is certainly more logical and factual than anyone on FrankenNet.

Posted by: mitch at June 9, 2005 11:24 PM

It's talk radio - and on both sides it's over the top. That's the medium.

Posted by: Eva Young at June 10, 2005 02:14 AM

I know the medium, Eva - I've done a bit, perhaps you've heard.

But if one can't see the difference between mindless echo-chamberlains like Eddie Schultz or Al Franken (or Mike Gallager) and Medved or Hewitt, then one should pay more attention.

Pushing buttons is part of the medium. But pushing them with fact and a nod to logical argument is one thing; pushing them with innuendo and unfocused anger is another.

Posted by: mitch at June 10, 2005 05:41 AM

My friend, Shelley, is a Legal Aid lawyer. I'm an NRA Life Member. We couldn't be further apart politically. But we found common ground recently.

She won't read the Strib because it's too conservative. I won't read it because it's too liberal.

We both agree -- we won't read the Strib.

See, we all really CAN get along!
.

Posted by: nathan bissonette at June 10, 2005 09:08 AM

My friend, Shelley, is a Legal Aid lawyer. I'm an NRA Life Member. We couldn't be further apart, politically, but we found common ground recently. Neither of us reads the Strib.

True, the reason she won't read it is because it's too conservative, and the reason I won't read it is because it's too liberal; still, we're in agreement -- we won't read the Strib.

See, we all really CAN get along!
.

Posted by: nathan bissonette at June 10, 2005 09:11 AM

What the . . . .?

If I try to posts but get an "Internal Server Error" and when "refresh" shows my comment wasn't posted, then how come the original comment shows up AFTER I've retyped and reposted the damned thing?

Is this thing on?
.

Posted by: nathan bissonette at June 10, 2005 09:13 AM

What the . . . .?

If I try to posts but get an "Internal Server Error" and when "refresh" shows my comment wasn't posted, then how come the original comment shows up AFTER I've retyped and reposted the damned thing?

Is this thing on?
.

Posted by: nathan bissonette at June 10, 2005 09:13 AM

I have no idea why the comments work (or not) as they do (or don't). I should fix it, if I can figure out how.

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