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April 22, 2005

The Narcissism Monologues

People have asked me about the Vagina Monologues controversy in Winona, where a couple of Winona High School girls (backed, natch, by the ACLU) are fighting for the girls' "right" to wear "I [heart] My Vagina" buttons in school.

Let's get back to that later. First, this distraction.

Luke Francl, at the decreasingly prolific "New Patriot" blog, says little or nothing about the Winona "controversy" itself. Merely...:

Cute high school girls who are proud of their sexuality, and not afraid to show it? And the ACLU is involved? Watch out for howls of protest from the right. Meanwhile, notice how the wingnuts shift uncomfortably in their seats.
Where to start?
  • "Cute" high school girls? Would the girls' claim be any less valid if they were, say, "not cute?"
  • If this is the best the ACLU can do, we must truly be in the golden age of civil liberties.
  • I bet if I gave Atrios or Kos a million dollars to start calling conservatives "Fizzlebejinkers", every single leftyblogger and talk show host would refer to us as "Fizzlebejinkers" at every possible opportunity, until Kos ordered them to stop.
  • Shifting in our seats? Hm. Dunno about that, Luke. I was married for ten years, I have two kids; female parts really hold no mystery to me or, I'm gathering, most of us. Put somewhat indelicately, I've seen a few vaginas in my life, from all different angles. So if I "shift in my seat", it has less to do with the word "Vagina" than with the cringe I feel at watching other peoples' self-aggrandizing hyperdramatics.
Which brings us back to the kids in Winona, and the screeching idiocy their little stunt has unleashed.

From the Strib piece:

Two Winona High School students have found themselves in hot water with school officials.

Why? Because after Carrie Rethlefsen attended a performance of the play "The Vagina Monologues" last month, she and Emily Nixon wore buttons to school that read: "I [heart] My Vagina."

"Look at Me! Meeeeeee! I've got a naughty word on my button, and I dare you to do anything about it!

School leaders said that the pin is inappropriate and that the discomfort it causes trumps the girls' right to free speech.
The school "leaders" are morons, too. Discomfort, my ass; the disruption of Ms. Rethlefsen's "look at meeeee!" stunt distract from what the school is supposed to be about; school.

But that's not the big issue.

The girls disagree. And despite repeated threats of suspension and expulsion, Rethlefsen has continued to wear her button.
"Look at Meeeeeeeeeeee!"

Let's go back to Luke Francl's jape; he referred to "Cute high school girls who are proud of their sexuality". It'd be unseemly to comment on Ms. Rethlefsen's looks (if I were 24 years younger, I'd probably go along), but her "pride in her sexuality" (like any 18 year old has any idea of what their sexuality is about) is interesting.

So school is a place to express "pride" in one's sexuality? (Let's assume that wearing a provocative button is a means of expressing "pride", rather than a way of forcing your "sexuality" on others, which is a lousy assumption, but work with me here)

Bully! Let's let everyone in school "express pride" in their "sexuality". Bring on the...:

  • Buttons saying "I Have Eight Inches of Heat-Seeking Moisture Missile That [Heart] Your Vagina, Too!". It expresses no less "pride" than Ms. Rethlefsen's button, does it?
  • "Life Aint' Nothing But Benzos and Ho's" T-shirts. Because who says "sexuality" has to be the conventional, upper-middle-class, alpaca-wearing, Volvo-driving academic view of the pampered classes whose idea of "exploring sexuality" is things like "Vagina Monologues"?
  • Centerfolds in lockers! Because teenage boys (and some girls) should be able to express "pride" in their "sexuality", too, right? And what expresses adolescent guys' "pride" better than pics of naked chicks? No, stifle your internal Andrea Dworkin; we've established that "discomfort" in someone's showing "pride" in their "sexuality" is no reason to stifle them!
  • Buttons saying:
    • I [heart] My Testicles!
    • "Will Boink For Money"
    • "Once You've Had Black, You'll Never Go Back"
    • SIT ON MY FACE!
Seems obvious, no?

I mean, it's all "self-expression". Right?

Schools - to say nothing of jobs and, while we're at it, people on the bus or in the supermarket or at the Walker or society at large - however, frequently ask that you hold off on "expressing" your "sexuality" until you're in a forum where anyone cares about it, because otherwise it's a distraction, not much different than interrupting class by expressing your "baseball-ality" by reciting box scores, or standing on the produce bin at Rainbow and expressing your pride by showing your ass to the assembled shoppers.

The girls have won support from other students and community members. [Winona's a college town, so that's no big shock - Ed.]

More than 100 students have ordered T-shirts bearing "I [heart] My Vagina" for girls and "I Support Your Vagina" for boys.

"We can't really find out what is inappropriate about it," Rethlefsen, 18, said of the button she wears to raise awareness about women's issues. "I don't think banning things like that is appropriate."

NOTE to any Winona High students: If you make a T-shirt labelled "I [Heart] Narcissistic, Self-Aggrandizing Drama Queens And Their Attention-Grabbing Stunts", send me a photo of you in class (preferably in close proximity with Ms. Rethlefsen). I'll reimburse you the cost of the T-shirt. We'll also see if the ACLU leaps to your defense.

Speaking of which:

Their case could become another test of whether high school students have the right to express their views in school. Charles Samuelson, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Minnesota, has offered to help the girls.

"It's political speech," he said.

Sexuality is political?

Wow. Where do I give to that 527?

Posted by Mitch at April 22, 2005 12:45 PM | TrackBack
Comments

So... can I wear my "I [heart] Your Vagina" button to school? 'Cuz, you know, I do.

Posted by: MC Taco at April 22, 2005 11:30 AM

So... can I wear my "I [heart] Your Vagina" button to school? 'Cuz, you know, I do.

Posted by: MC Taco at April 22, 2005 11:30 AM

Well, Mitch...you said it all!!! Thank the good Lord I wasn't given a forum in high school to blab my idiocy far and wide...I can hardly stand to think of some of the positions I took (philosophically (!)) when I was a teenager, let alone think that I would have had "grown-up" asses standing up for me against the "establishment". Aaargh. It is, as you point out so well, a case of "Look at meeeee". As is so damn much these days.

All of the examples of how far this could go that you came up with (too funny!) are as legitimate as the crap these girls are trying to pull. Do they have parents?! No, very few have actual "parents" now. Everyone is an adolescent no matter how old they are.

And what is it with so many women-mystery and dignity seems to be a concept completely lost on them. What on earth do they accomplish-and I'm not just speaking of these two twits, but the Vagina Monologues proponents in general?

And yes, the bottom line is that if this is what the ACLU has the time for, then civil liberties must truly be hunky-dory.

Posted by: Colleen at April 22, 2005 11:32 AM

Mitch,

You want to guest write on our blog?

I am having difficulty typing today since I am shifting uncomfortably in my chair at the thought of some adolescent chick I don't know that lives 90 miles away from me wearing a button that features a word that isn't nearly offensive as the ones I have used to describe Luke.

LF

Posted by: LearnedFoot at April 22, 2005 11:34 AM

one wonders if the ACLU would be so quick to jump into the fray if a t-shirt appeared in school expressing love and support for God or the 2nd amendment.

Posted by: Kevin at April 22, 2005 11:43 AM

Hold the phone, people. If memory serves, did not Woodbury or some other south metro school not have some kids banned from wearing pro-life or pro-heterosexual tee-shirts? I could be wrong.

Posted by: Dave at April 22, 2005 12:13 PM

Gee, a student who wants to "express" himself that "Straight Pride" is good gets banned.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ac9e98b196b.htm

But....I guess there are different rules if you are promoting liberal causes, huh?

Posted by: Dave at April 22, 2005 12:18 PM

This is just more wreckage from where the Feminist ship hit the jagged rocks. Yessiree, the "right to power" ended right where it began, in the crotch. It's more in your face now than ever, of course, but has lost whatever legitimacy it might once have held. That's because there is no dignity anymore, no quiet resolve, no principled debate but instead just a roiling cesspool of moral equivalence and relative truth. "Equality" has neutered reason. The result is political masturbation for me, but not for thee, and we do this by embracing the self-exploitation of children claiming it's all "independent self-expression" so long as it's consistent with the Feminist cause. If the buttons said "I (heart) dick" the poor dears would probably be rushed off to "treatment" in the land of psychotropic medication. But "equality," y'see, and "free speech," makes a walking advertisement for nubile young girls' genatalia okay. They're wemyn, afterall. Hear them roar.

Posted by: Eracus at April 22, 2005 12:38 PM

So, let me get this straight: according to the ACLU wearing those buttons is okay, but not a student brings a Bible to school ? I could be wrong, but I'm not sure that this is what the Founding Fathers intended.

Posted by: Just Me at April 22, 2005 01:11 PM

I made some very similar comments last night on this subject at our MOB blog Anti-Strib.
http://anti-strib.blogspot.com/

My counter protest shirt ideas:
* I (heart) my penis.
*My penis (hearts) your vagina too.
*Power to the penis!
*I (heart) my glock

I just hope there is a republican club or a protest warrior chapter there to take on these dips.

Posted by: Sequel at April 22, 2005 02:47 PM

Personally, I'd just give everyone a "I (heart) my vagina" button -- including the men. You know how those hippies just *love* being seen as conformists...

Posted by: Jay Reding at April 22, 2005 03:01 PM

Boy, you're really going off the deep end here Mitch.

Do you honestly see no distincion between the word "vagina" and taping up porn centerfolds? Of course you do - you're not stupid. But you are being disingenuous to rile up your friends. Which is apparently really, really easy to do.

Posted by: Chuck Olsen at April 22, 2005 03:38 PM

I see no distinction Chuck, free expression is just that, and open to anybody's own interpretation.

If you open Pandora's (box).......notice I didn't use the word "vagina"....oops too late....shift...shift..uh, gotta go.

Posted by: marcus aurelius at April 22, 2005 03:51 PM

"Do you honestly see no distincion between the word "vagina" and taping up porn centerfolds? Of course you do - you're not stupid. But you are being disingenuous to rile up your friends. Which is apparently really, really easy to do."

What's disingenuous?

Luke's premise was that, since she's cute and all googly over her sexuality, she's got a right to express it, no matter how that might shock or disrupt what's going on around her.

So would I have a similar right?

The only difference between a button homage to "Vagina Monologues" and a nude centerfold is that the play is "art", while the centerfold is "porn". OK, fair enough. So how about art nudes? Cabaret burlesque? Something that fits under the same hopelessly broad rubric - as a *celebration* of my male sexuality, mind you, not to shock or disrupt, nossiree bob.

I'm only being as disingenuous as you want to think I am.

Posted by: mitch at April 22, 2005 03:55 PM

Am I the only person who thinks that the right thing to do would have been to IGNORE the button, thus depriving her of the attention she was seeking?

Posted by: htom at April 22, 2005 03:58 PM

Perhaps you'd care to discuss why we might here "vagina" on TV, or we can go to a library and look up information about vaginas [or penises, for that matter] - but pornography is not allowed in either of those places?

Posted by: Chuck Olsen at April 22, 2005 03:59 PM

Who's being disingenuous now, Chuck - you know as well as I do that neither the young lady's button nor the play to which it refers is the sort of clinical description of anatomy that it would need to be to be on television. Luke himself said it; it's about her *sexuality*, not her anatomy. Or are you rewriting your colleague Francl, ex post facto? Either you're being obtuse, or the young lady from Winona is.

And that's what's behind my suggestion that we switch to artistic nudity, which you can find in the library, and to some extent on TV (esp. Public TV, which is analagous enough to public schools).

Because high school guys have sexualities to celebrate too, dagnabbit!

I'm going to accelerate the production of my new theatrical production, "Dick Drama", a study of male sexuality through history, its limitations and impacts on life. I'm looking for a vendor to print 10,000 "I Love My Dick" buttons. Then, I'm going to get the ACLU to start distributing them to schools.

Who's with me?

Posted by: mitch at April 22, 2005 04:07 PM

I'm with ya, Mitch! I have a suggestion for a new title, though. How about....The Dick Discourse?

Posted by: Dave at April 22, 2005 04:18 PM

Well, all Luke did was restate what was going on in his own words. You keep holding it up as "Luke's premise" which is silly. Anyway.

Obviously vaginas have something to do with sexuality. The button says "I *heart* my vagina". The point I'm making is that the word "vagina" is not obscene, and that's why you can look it up in the library and hear it on television. The same holds true of the play, "The Vagina Monologes" - makes no difference, it's not obscene to say that or refer to it. I'm not being disingenuous, I'm making a point. You seem to be ducking it.

Porn centerfolds are obscene. A button saying "I want to shove my dick in your c*nt" is probably obscene. You don't see this on TV or in the library, or in schools (duh). Why? Well, that's where you get into gray area. Community standards, and all that jazz. I think the school would have a real tough time arguing that button is going cause some sort of disruption amongst the students - I'm mean c'mon, how much more tame can you get?

You're most upset that the button represents a play which represents feminism, and you hate feminism. Fine. But why do you hate free speech?

Feel free to make your dick buttons and your "Dick Drama" - you're just the guy to do it.

Posted by: Chuck Olsen at April 22, 2005 04:25 PM

Question Chuck:

Then you don't have a problem with a kid at Woodbury H.S., wearing a tee-shirt that says "Straight Pride", right? Ala 2001?

Posted by: Dave at April 22, 2005 04:34 PM

Dave: Nope.

Posted by: Chuck Olsen at April 22, 2005 04:35 PM

"You're most upset that the button represents a play which represents feminism, and you hate feminism. Fine. But why do you hate free speech?"

Bzzzt. I am, by any rational measure, at least as ardent a feminist as you are, Chuck. I'm being charitable and, yes, conservative. I have a daughter; there is no way in hell you could possibly want equality for women any more than I do.

As to "hating" free speech - STEP AWAY FROM ATRIOS! Dissent does not equal hate! I think Miss Winona's point is specious, precious and obtuse. Also, beating other people over the head with your sexuality may fall under the broad definition of free speech, but it also counts as "bad taste" and "imposition on others", which is merely rude. I don't care if she wears her silly little button; I have every right to call her on it, and on wrapping her precious little stunt in the Constitution.

Or DO I have that right? WHY DO YOU HATE FREE SPEECH, Chuck?

"Feel free to make your dick buttons and your "Dick Drama" - you're just the guy to do it."

I'm sorry - I didn't hear that.

Posted by: mitch at April 22, 2005 04:50 PM

Okay... so you agree she has the right to wear it, but you just think it's narcissistic, etc.? Well I'm glad we can agree on something (her right to wear it). And, that we both hate free speech with equal fervor.

Re: dick buttons/Dick Drama - interpret up.
I'll start worrying if you make "I *heart* your dick" buttons though.

Posted by: Chuck Olsen at April 22, 2005 05:03 PM

"You're most upset that the button represents..."

Actually, Chuck, I'm *most* upset that the button represents the fact that left-wing beliefs are tolerated, nurtured, and even encouraged in schools, while those of conservative students are quashed mercilessly.

Students in Saint Paul can do their "community service" time with Planned Parenthood, but not with, say, CCRN or the Pro-Life MN, if they're so inclined.

They can't openly pray to the Christian G_d in school, but they are taught the broader points of Native American spirituality and paganism in class.

If they dare to voice political beliefs to the right of Paul Wellstone, many (*many*) teachers castigate or ridicule them in class.

If they try to start a conservative student group, they face officially-sanctioned discrimination in funding, space, and ability to act like a school group.

Politics aside: They are rewarded for being girls and young women; they are punished and stifled for being boys and young men.

That'd be my "main" problem, Chuck. Feminism? Pffft. Not even on the top five.

Posted by: mitch at April 22, 2005 05:04 PM

Those are some good points, Mitch.

But "They are rewarded for being girls and young women; they are punished and stifled for being boys and young men"

Oh boy... well, to be blunt, our culture has a history of letting boys be boys, looking the other way when that leads to date rape, and that sort of thing. I know this will be a hot button for you. Has it swung too far the other way now, in reaction to that, to protect girls? Maybe, maybe.

Posted by: Chuck Olsen at April 22, 2005 05:12 PM

I heard Ms. Rethlefsen on a couple talk shown yesterday and she insists that her button isn’t about sex, it’s supposed to call attention to violence against women. Right, I was a 17 year old boy once and if I saw an 18 year old girl wearing an “I (heart) my vagina” button, I wouldn’t have been reminded of the horrible oppression of women, I would have been thinking about, well, her vagina.

The tragedy of this is she seems to be a very bright kid with an interest in science and she is going to major in “women’s studies” in college. What a waste.

Posted by: Robert Brown at April 22, 2005 07:52 PM

Okay, I am way late to the conversation on this one. I have 5,000 things I want to say, but I'll try to keep it brief. And please: before you jump down my throat anyone, read my whole comment.

When the Vagina Monologues first began - its first inception - I really dug them. For my own personal reasons that I will not go into. Eve Ensler's mission was to celebrate. That's all. You may scorn the idea, but please: try to understand that some of us out there might have needed that message. The original inception of it was a lifeline. For me. Eve Ensler told a story about a 67 year old woman who, after reading the book, masturbated and had an orgasm for the first time. She wrote a letter to Ensler, and the text of that letter makes me cry every time I read it. I needed to hear the message of that book, and I am grateful for it.

Then it changed. It became about Violence for Women ... vaginas became symbolic of violence against women. Camille Paglia wrote a BLISTERING critique of how the whole project morphed into this angry anti-male thing - It did not begin that way. Judging from the responses in this thread, nobody will believe me, but oh well. Paglia just BUSTED on it, saying that equating "vaginas" with "violence" was just plain old wrong. And I agree - Paglia articulated (as she so often does) what went wrong with this project. It became angry, shrill, and - to put it mildly - NOT a celebration.

Or - it still was a celebration, but it became an exclusionary celebration. Huge difference. It turned me off, and I stopped paying attention to the whole Vagina Monologues thing. It was like she had lost the plot.

My thing with this whole I Heart my Vagina nonsense is this:

Where I differ now with Eve Ensler and her mininons is that - for me, saying I Heart My Vagina does NOT also mean I Hate C*ck. It seems like all this "I love my vagina" stuff now means: "We hate men". That's feckin' bullcrap, in my opinion.

I can heart my vagina and heart penis at the same time. (I know. I sound like a jackass. It's all Eve Ensler's fault.)

I don't like the angry exclusiveness of the I Heart My Vagina message (as it is used by Eve Ensler now). It's hostile, and meant to put people off. At least that's my view. I'm not into that, and I am truly sad to see that what was once a lovely and heartwarming project (and again - I can already hear the scorn and contempt half of you on this thread are going to throw my way. Fine. Deal with it.) has become such a nasty shrill anti-male message.

Posted by: red at April 24, 2005 10:56 AM

I want a button that says: "But does your vagina heart you?"

Posted by: alyx at April 24, 2005 01:52 PM

I want a button that says: "But does your vagina heart you?"

Posted by: alyx at April 24, 2005 01:52 PM

Red-sorry...you're right. I am scornful. I will never care whether or not a 67 yr old woman had an orgasm for the first time. Now she can go to her grave happy or what? Otherwise her life was a drear wasteland and now it's worth celebrating!? Actually, I find it hard to believe....

For God's sake....we are MORE than our genitalia...waaaay more.

Posted by: Colleen at April 24, 2005 02:39 PM

Colleen - then it's obviously no use me saying anymore. My reason for interest in this is personal, and like I said, I won't go into it. Scorn me if that's what floats your boat. Kinda rude, but whatever.

Posted by: red at April 24, 2005 04:20 PM

And lastly:

1. I did not say we are only our genitalia - uhm, did I say that?
2. I did not imply that 67 year old woman had had a dreary life up until then

I said nothing of the sort.

Posted by: red at April 24, 2005 04:24 PM

Sorry to be rude-that is not the intent. But, I'm fed up with this whining generation of self-centered women. That something traumatic happened to you, I'm very sorry. But for the most part, women nowdays have no idea about a truly hard life. Think seriously about it. There was no room in former times for this constant introspection centered on ourselves and all our parts! It's sick.

While so many women are busying themselves with crap like this, their daughters are having sex in 5th grade-are cutting themselves and comitting suicide-getting pregnant...all in record numbers. Being happy and having plays and celebrating our "womanhood" sure has made everybody happier than pigs in shit, hasn't it?

When you have a severe hurt and pain in your life there is only one person to help you. Jesus. Now I can be thought of as the religious fanatic besides. But the peace is real.

Posted by: Colleen at April 24, 2005 05:00 PM

Red,

I remember Paglia's critique of VM, and it has a lot to do with my attitude about the whole thing.

I made the point on the show yesterday - feminism used to be "equity feminism", the push for equality and the right to enjoy life as much as guys (in theory) do. Including sexuality, if you dig way back (and maybe not all that far back, if you think about it). I certainly support that - I mean, I have a daughter, and I think most fathers of daughters are equity feminists whether they know it or not.

But the identity feminists - the ones that want to preserve the anger and victimhood and what not, the ones that have hijacked education and made school such a hellhole for little boys, the ones that have done to the "Vagina Monologues" the things that you and Paglia decry - yeah, that's my beef, right there.

Female sexuality? I'm a big fan. But Ms. Rethlefsen's little stunt isn't "celebration", it's "imposition". I'll grant that my perspective is probably warped; I'm a single parent and I work full-time plus, so I don't have time and energy to "celebrate" my OWN sexuality, much less someone else's. So when someone, gay or straight, wants to intrude into my space demanding that I observe, much less celebrate, their sexuality - yeah, it's an imposition. Especially when it's not a celebration so much as it is an assault, throwing a rock through the community window.

The most abusive part, to me, is calling it "speaking out about violence against women". There's a whole post in there.

Posted by: mitch at April 24, 2005 05:57 PM

I am Carrie's boyfriend. Let me say this. She did not do this for attention. The button is not at all sexual, in the way people have been taking it. And there wouldn't be a uproar about it if the school let her wear it like they did for over a month! Let us all just remember one thing. Most of us don't have a courage to stand up for what they believe in, especially when your parents don't support you, your school doesn't support you, the community doesn't support you, and especially when your peers don't support you.

Posted by: Alex dingfelder at May 14, 2005 01:06 AM

I am Carrie's boyfriend. Let me say this. She did not do this for attention. The button is not at all sexual, in the way people have been taking it. And there wouldn't be a uproar about it if the school let her wear it like they did for over a month! Let us all just remember one thing. Most of us don't have a courage to stand up for what they believe in, especially when your parents don't support you, your school doesn't support you, the community doesn't support you, and especially when your peers don't support you.

Posted by: Alex dingfelder at May 14, 2005 01:07 AM

I am Carrie's boyfriend. Let me say this. She did not do this for attention. The button is not at all sexual, in the way people have been taking it. And there wouldn't be a uproar about it if the school let her wear it like they did for over a month! Let us all just remember one thing. Most of us don't have a courage to stand up for what they believe in, especially when your parents don't support you, your school doesn't support you, the community doesn't support you, and especially when your peers don't support you.

Posted by: Alex dingfelder at May 14, 2005 01:07 AM

I am Carrie's boyfriend. Let me say this. She did not do this for attention. The button is not at all sexual, in the way people have been taking it. And there wouldn't be a uproar about it if the school let her wear it like they did for over a month! Let us all just remember one thing. Most of us don't have a courage to stand up for what they believe in, especially when your parents don't support you, your school doesn't support you, the community doesn't support you, and especially when your peers don't support you.

Posted by: Alex dingfelder at May 14, 2005 01:07 AM

Alex,

You started so well,and ended so off-the-rails...

I never said the button had a sexual intent. However, if she wore the button every day for a month, how can you say it wasn't for attention?

As to your last sentence - imagine someone saying "Most of you wouldn't have the courage to put on a button saying "Women should be barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen" and wear it for a month, even though your parents, family, school and peers don't support you". Right, they don't support it with a good reason; it's pointlessly inflammatory and self-aggrandizing. And "The Vagina Monologues", these days, are not a whole lot subtle than the satirical button in my example (or so I'm told).

Posted by: mitch at May 15, 2005 07:40 AM

Perhaps this is a bit TOO simplistic a breakdown of the concept but here it goes...what is school for? Is it to take young people and "expose" them to ideas and let them make up their own minds and hope they turn out decent citizens? Or is it the concept that society makes a social contract,that it educate and give the soon to be citizen (we hope) a foundation of facts and figures and information that will "prepare" the newly minted citizen (hopefully muture)to make their own critical decisions...and to contribute in some meaningful way to that same society? i.e. "paying back" to the society for its investment? I personaly feel that in recent history "education" has got off track..that it has been highjacked by persons and organizations for their own causes..thus over-shadowing what education is supost to do.I graduated in the early 80's (gezzer alert!) and even then it seemed that school had gotten off what it was suppost to do..their where people who couldn't make out a resume, balance a check book, plan a grocery list etc. isnt THAT one of the lessons schools should teach? Seems to me if she feels proud of her vagina thats information she may need to know..but not the student body at large..they need to spend THEIR time learning the stuff I talked about before. And then there is the waste of resources the school must use against ACLU..money that could be better spent...and the media crawling all over the place getting the "scoop"..and the parents demanding answers damnit!! etc. all distracting from the instruction day..just because of looookkk at meeeeee..my vagina is important!!!! look at meeee!

Posted by: matt at May 19, 2005 02:44 PM
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