All fluff and no substance. What is his plan? What John Kerry is running the hawk or the dove? The content of the debate was pathetic for Kerry and I would still like to know where he stands on Iraq, abortion, taxes, gay marriage, the death penalty, and so forth. He is a sad joke and he did nothing to show otherwise last night.

Agreed. All style, no substance from Kerry. He sounded great, but if you take the time to figure out what he was saying, there was nothing there.

I loved his "retro 80s" no-bunker-buster-nuclear-weapons stand. Yet another weapons system for him to oppose.

And the "Global Test"... WTF?

Too bad this is not a figure skating competition so Kerry could score points from the German and French judges for his artistic interpretation.

Also the fact he brought up nuclear fuel for Iran, what the hell was that? Edwards said it a few weeks ago and the Iran said if they go nuclear, Israel is done. The fact that he brought it up again scares the s--t out of me and I can't get over more people haven't jumped on it.

Kerry insults the people he claims to support.
We're getting no help in Iraq, relegating the UK, Australia, Poland, etc. to 'chopped liver' status.
He supports our troops but tells them what they are doing is a mistake, and says their superiors we faulty planners.
Rule of thumb: The electorate is smarter than the pundits.
Bush won the debate and will get a 1-3 pt. jump in the polls this week.
This might get negated after the next two debates, but I think the debate last night was the one for all the money, and Bush won in a walk (when measured as a function of polls).

Another thing. Kerry criticizes the President, saying Bush acted unilaterally in Iraq.

Then Kerry turns right around and says that we should have bi-lateral discussions with North Korea when we already have a group of countries working on keeping the pressure on North Korea.

So Kerry wants to have an alliance in Iraq, but go it alone in North Korea!

Amazing.

I didn't watch. I can't stand debates. They don't have any resemblance to what a president has to do, and all they accomplish is give the candidates a chance to shoot themselves in the foot.

From the sound clips and the commentary, it sounds like Kerry gave a better performance oratorically, but that if you read the transcript Kerry drowned himself.

Global test "prove to the world that you're going to war for a legitimate purpose." That sounds a lot like ceding the right to preempt attacks on us or our allies, which he just said no president would ever do. Ergo, he should never be president.

He seems to have seriously misstated the facts about the Cuban Missile Crisis. I knew John Kennedy and he didn't wait for France's approval to blockade Cuber.

Nuclear disarmament. He would scrap the nuke bunker buster, and probably the SDI.

His remarks about training police and security forces in Iraq seem to be aimed at a policy of selfishness and isolation for America.

In reaction to the debate--

Newsweek poll, 9/30-10/2, 1,013 Registered:

Kerry 47 (+4)
Bush 45 (-4)
Nader 2 (unc)

Kerry 49 (+4)
Bush 46 (-4)

That is what a bounce looks like.

Pffft. It's Newsweek. They had Bush with the 11 point lead that even Republicans said was unrealistic two weeks ago.

This is what statistical anomaly looks like.

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