Via Ed, we see that Kerry is backing off from one of his Purple Heart claims, admitting that his first Purple Heart was accidentally self-inflicted.
Here are the relevant sections from the Purple Heart issuance criteria:
(8) After 7 December 1941, by weapon fire while directly engaged in armed conflict, regardless of the fire causing the wound.So - where were those "lies" on the part of the Swifties, again? Posted by Mitch at August 24, 2004 07:40 AM | TrackBack...
b. A wound for which the award is made must have required treatment by a medical officer.
Well, here's a lie, Mitch--a bold face, flat-out lie, that seems to give a bit of credence to John Kerry's claim that he took a Swift boat upriver.
You may remember that O'Neill was Nixon's attack dog against Kerry. You may remember that O'Neill met with Nixon in the Oval Office. And those with a passing knowledge of the Nixon presidency know that those conversations are on tape.
So what, pray tell, did John O'Neill tell Nixon?
Here's the exchange:
O'NEILL: I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border on the water.
NIXON: In a swift boat?
O'NEILL: Yes, sir.
So Mitch...you, uh, gonna take back everything about the profile of a Winnebago, and how Swift boats couldn't possibly go to Cambodia, and how John Kerry couldn't possibly have been in Cambodia, ever? Because--and I'm just throwing this out there--if one of Kerry's fellow Swift Boat skippers took a Swift Boat into Cambodia, it might suggest that John Kerry took one there too.
Oh, and the fact that O'Neill has described the Mekong as being "like the Mississippi" and claimed lately that nobody but nobody went to Cambodia would seem to be a...what's the word I'm looking for? Starts with an l...rhymes with "buy"....
Either that, or O'Neill lied to the President. In the Oval Office. On tape.
Can we frickin' move on now?
Posted by: Jeff Fecke at August 24, 2004 11:24 PMJeff Fecke,
Would you please favor us with the citation to that quote? Because quoting something like this without a link or citation is lame (although well in keeping with the rest of your own fairly limp blog).
And perhaps some context for it? Was he referring to coastal waters (for which PCFs were designed?) off Cambodia? Was he referring to missions after incursions became more common?
And even *if* O'Neill lied - and I'm nowhere close to buying that - he never made time *in* Cambodia a key part of his persona, and he never incorporated it into any debates on public policy, as Kerry did. And he's not running for president.
So let's not "move on" just yet. Kerry is the lying piece of filth we all knew he was,and the whole country needs to know it.
Posted by: Pelorus at August 25, 2004 05:40 AMCite: CNN Newsnight, August 24, 2004.
John O'Neill has made, as part of his public persona, a big deal that he never did go to Cambodia.
And you all have been saying that Kerry could not possibly have gone to Cambodia.
Now, this would seem to blow both those out of the water.
Don't you think?
Posted by: Jeff fecke at August 25, 2004 11:56 AMActually here's the link to the real story:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130048,00.html
COLMES: All right. Well, either you were in Cambodia or Kerry was in Cambodia and you claim he wasn't in Cambodia. You claimed at one point you weren't and then you claimed you were. This is very confusing to people.
O'NEILL: Well, it shouldn't be confused. I was never in Cambodia and Kerry lied when he said he was in Cambodia.
COLMES: You said to Richard Nixon you were in Cambodia.
O'NEILL: And it was the turning point of his life.
COLMES: You said to Richard Nixon, "I was in Cambodia, sir."
HANNITY: On the border.
COLMES: There's a tape of you saying that to Richard Nixon.
O'NEILL: What's the next sentence? I was along the Cambodian border. That's exactly right. What I told Nixon and was trying to tell him in this meeting was I was along the Cambodian border. As Sean clearly read...
COLMES: "I was in Cambodia," Those are your words.
O'NEILL: Yes, but you missed the next sentence. You're not reading the next sentence, Alan.
COLMES: Yes, along the border. But you're in Cambodia or you're not in Cambodia.
O'NEILL: Well, I'm sorry, Alan. I was talking in a conversation. And the first thing, by the way, I told him in the conversation, as you know, was that I was a Democrat and I voted for Hubert Humphrey.
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By "in Cambodia" Elliot meant he was along the Cambodian border which he clarified with his next sentence in a conversation. As opposed to "I went on a stealth mission with my swift boat to run guns and drop off some spooks for the CIA."
Posted by: Thorley Winston at August 25, 2004 08:31 PMO'Neill spent 8 more months in Vietnam than Kerry which not only gave O'Neill the opportunity to do many more things and go many more places but it also puts O'Neill in country during the US incursion into Cambodia.
Whether or not O'Neill was ever in Cambodia or on Pluto doesn't mean squat because Kerry's already admitted his untruthfulness on his Christmas in Cambodia.
Have you seen the dog story yet? Kerry now has a story that he had a dog called VC on his boat that was blown off in an explosion. Nobody else remembers a dog of any name. What's with this guy?
Posted by: Warthog at August 26, 2004 05:45 PM