Before the Swifties, Ensign Kerry served on the guided-missile frigate/cruiser (it was reclassified at some point in its life) USS Gridley.
Some members of the Gridley's crew have put up a website with their reminiscences of serving with the future Senator.
Some of them are even-handed, but unfavorable in the end - like this from Kerry's Executive Officer (the ship's second-in-command):
Others paint a moreThere is no question that John Kerry earned his decorations and that he put his life at risk in the service of his country. There is no doubt in my mind, moreover, that he has the intelligence to serve as president. But there is also no doubt in my mind that his anti-war activities while our troops were still fighting, dying and being tortured in filthy Vietnam prisons were despicable.
For that reason, even aside from his anti-defense voting record in the Senate, he is one ex-shipmate that I could never support as commander-in-chief of the armed forces.
5. The trip to Danang – GRIDLEY went into Danang for briefings before going to Northern SAR. This section is so full of hyperbole that the urge to giggle is almost uncontrollable. “The panic and pressure onboard GRIDLEY, strapping on a .45, wondering if I would have to use it, B-52’s howling overhead”. A B-52 over Danang would have been so high that only contrails would have been visible, cloud cover permitting. David Simons confirmed my recollection that during our brief stay in Danang Harbor, the sky was overcast to the point of being ominous.Very curious.More seriously, no one can remember John Kerry going ashore. I was part of the shore party that went to Monkey Mountain. We were taken in a screened in truck (to protect against grenades being tossed in) and made to unload our .45’s. The driver said that he did not want us newbies to shoot anyone by accident.
Neither Commander Kelly nor LCDR Rueckert (Kerry’s immediate boss) can recall approving a trip ashore for Ensign Kerry. The author uses remarks of David Simons IC2 as a lead in to the Danang section. I spoke to David and he has no personal knowledge of Kerry going ashore at all. He did talk to a researcher and made some generic remarks about Danang but had never discussed Danang with Kerry. He recalls arguing with the researcher because he tried to put the words “cowboy” in his mouth, which ended up in the book.
There is no mystery about the “gruesome site of a pile of dead VC.” We saw no sign of anything like this. However, our escort to Monkey Mountain did tell us how the VC bodies were stacked up on the LZ’s after the TET Offensive, which had been several months before. Ensign Kerry would have been told this story by members of the shore party.
If, indeed, he got to the pier, because he was in charge of the motor whaleboat, it certainly would not have been within his purview to wander Danang, eating dog meat and drinking beer in a bar (under arms). It also seems amazing that he had all these observations on Vietnam in such a brief visit.
Of course, we haven't verified any of this, and don't know any of the agendas involved.
More to come.
Posted by Mitch at August 20, 2004 05:58 AM | TrackBack
So Kerry likes to stretch and exaggerate his accomplishments in order to burnish his reputation.
Big deal. Lots of people were braggarts when they were young (I was one). Bush was a cocky frat boy and I'm sure he bragged his share.
But when we grow older we are supposed to grow wiser, and in our maturity we should be able to look back at how cocky/vain/arrogant we were then. And laugh.
The problem with Kerry is that he has never matured out of his arrogant-twerp phase. He carries his Magic Hat around on the campaign. The book Tour of Duty was published in 2004. This isn't stuff he was saying 30 years ago; this is stuff he is saying now.
What does that say about his character?
Posted by: Gideon at August 20, 2004 11:05 AMGideon: "Bush was a cocky frat boy and I'm sure he bragged his share."
Posted by: Jabba the Nutt at August 20, 2004 09:59 PMMaybe, but they're have been zero, zilch, nada reports of fellow frat boys coming forward and telling us this. And Bush has been candidate or President for 4 years.
Imagine that you, a rural boy from Iowa, are returning home from your tour of duty in Vietnam. You land in San Francisco and your relief at being home is so profound that you kiss the ground of the country you love.
You enter the terminal and weird looking people are waiting to spit on you and call you baby killer. You who have been very careful to be a good soldier and keep your christian values. It turns out that the weird people have just watched John Kerry on the CBS evening news and are angry because Kerry has painted all the US soldiers in Vietnam as war criminals.
If you were this soldier could you forgive Kerry?
Posted by: michael at August 20, 2004 11:03 PMMy husband served aboard the Gridley in the 1980's. He is appalled that Mr. Kerry had served on that ship.
It feels rather like being slimed.
Posted by: Joanie at August 26, 2004 11:32 PM