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July 13, 2004

To Plan Or Not To Plan

I got some of the most gratifying response ever to my post from two days ago, Chum for the Moonbat Pond, where we discussed the Administration's inquiry into the legalities and policies regarding postponing the presidential election in case of a major terrorist attack.

It's brought up some interesting ideas.

Via
Spot On, I encountered this piece, on the blog "Right Moment".There are two sides to this issue.

On the one hand, "if you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail". If the nation doesn't consider what to do in the event of a rending national catastrophe, then if it happens we will have no idea what to do - guaranteeing an election dispute that'll make this last four years look like trying to figure out which movie to rent at Blockbuster.

On the other hand - as we saw during last year's Terror Market controversy or the "Duct Tape" advisories last year, if a government institution even considers a point that is emotionally loaded enough to torque a significant minority, then that point will go unconsidered. Every time.

I think a sensible nation - Switzerland, for example - capable of national pragmatism, with a n opposition that was truly united for the objective good (read: survival) of the country, would be able to confront things like this, and fashion a response; perhaps create a set of non-partisan, legal and objective standards for the postponement of an election, like the use of nuclear weapons resulting in the complete disruption of communications in a significant part of the country.

Or, alternately, create a procedure for having staggered elections; if a disaster-ravaged New York or Los Angeles were incapable of voting on the appointed date, then they would vote a month (for example) later.

But no. We'll have the emotional tug of war, between the "Bush wants to appoint himself king!" morons and the "Any caving in to Al Quaeda is a defeat" absolutists (one of which I am, as a generality).

The question - regardless of your politics - is "what is the right way to approach this thorny problem - the first time we've ever faced it". People say "Lincoln conducted elections on time during the Civil War" - but no Northern cities were in flaming ruins in 1864.

I'm still inclined to hold the election on time no matter what - but it bears thinking about.

Posted by Mitch at July 13, 2004 10:43 AM | TrackBack
Comments

I'm of the "Even Al Qaeda isn't stupid enough to do anything that would keep George W. Bush in office with a mandate to kill them all" camp. I honestly believe that a major attack between now and November would change a lot of minds, with Kerry playing catch-up on the issue of terrorism and failing, and some of the appallingly large number of remaining September 10 Americans finally recognizing the reality of our situation.

So, nothing will be done to wake up the Sep. 10 Americans. And if Kerry wins, "It's morning in America" will become, "It's September 10 in America" and we all know what that leads to.

Posted by: Brian Jones at July 13, 2004 11:08 AM

Between now and the election:

A successful attack or partially success. will be spun by liberals as Bush incompetence.

A foiled attack will be spun as a contrived event to benefit Bush, and simultaneously as Bush incompetence (to allow a plot to get so advanced)

No attack at all will mean that the threat has been exaggerated for Bush's advantage.

Conclusion: Only bad news for Bush can be truth.

Posted by: Rick at July 13, 2004 12:16 PM

I actually oppose this, not because I believe Bush will appoint himself King (I suspect, Mitch, that you and I would both be marching on Washington, weapons-at-the-ready, if any President, Republican or Democrat, tried that. I suspect we wouldn't be alone).

No, I oppose this because this is the cornerstone of our Republic, and for a personal reason.

In 2001, I cast my vote in the mayoral primary in the interm between the time the plane hit tower one and tower two.

I always have felt that meant something. Even at the very moment our nation was under attack, I was doing my own (very, very) small part to keep our most fundamental liberty alive. The attacks were horriffic, but even at the moment they happened, our nation was still very much alive.

I don't want us to postpone elections, not by a second. Because for all the trite "the terrorists will have won..." scenarios that were spun in the wake of 9/11, this is a case where the terrorists really will have won, by hurting our democracy.

I won't give them the satisfaction.

As for why this has engendered such emotion, the blame lies with the kind of content-free briefings Ridge delivered last week. There is so much done to scare people by this administration--and it feels cynical, every time. When something like this floats by, it's offensive. Maybe, had Bush acted in a less polarizing fashion over the last three years, that would be different. But it isn't.

Posted by: Jeff Fecke at July 13, 2004 12:45 PM

I suspect, Mitch, that you and I would both be marching on Washington, weapons-at-the-ready, if any President, Republican or Democrat, tried that. I suspect we wouldn't be alone

I only own a .22 rifle, but I'd be marching.

Posted by: Ryan at July 13, 2004 12:57 PM

"I suspect, Mitch, that you and I would both be marching on Washington, weapons-at-the-ready, if any President, Republican or Democrat, tried that. I suspect we wouldn't be alone"

"I only own a .22 rifle, but I'd be marching."

Which is why, now that we've passed shall-issue in MN, that I'm working on the Minnesota Armored Vehicle Evaluation/Resale In Certain Kases (MAVERICK) Act, allowing Minnesotans to buy surplus tanks, self-propelled artillery, and armored personnel carriers.

Because there are a LOT of M60A3s out there looking for good homes.

Posted by: mitch at July 13, 2004 01:02 PM

This issue is a no win situation (for everyone, although especially Bush) The problem simply is that if we have no plan to delay things and go forward with elections and something happens, the losing side will contest. I hate to say it, but I can easily imagine a scenario where say a half dozen election sites in Florida that had a bomb go off or even a bomb threat called in keep thousands of people from being able to vote or simply scaring them away leaving untold thousands to claim they were too scared to vote. Now add in the margin is 1,000 votes and it again decides who is President. Want to bet there is not a leagal challenge????

Posted by: Dave at July 13, 2004 01:35 PM

Unfortuneately this is regarded as a "state by state" issue. So while if there was an event big enough to warrent a national delay/rescheduling chances are that half the states would go ahead with the voting and the others wouldnt and another legal brouhaha would ensue.

My opinion would be to hold the election regardless of a terrorist act or not. . there would be issues after the fact but the point that this country would not be derailed from exercising its freedoms would be made quite clearly.

Posted by: JasonDl at July 13, 2004 10:34 PM

Jason,

I hear what you are saying and it would be nice to think our country could be rational about this and hold the elections. But I honestly cannot imagine a scenario where if anything did happen and it was in a close state, there would be all sorts of legal challenges to the next President, whomever that ends up being. I think the argument should be framed in a manner in which both sides must agree beforehand what would be worse for our country's democracy, a delayed election run smoothly when things are set straight, or an election under diress in which a multitude of voters have legitimate claims about not having their vote "count". It would not be hard to argue that a second election decided by the Supreme Court could cause this country some very serious problems.

Posted by: Dave V at July 14, 2004 10:17 AM
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