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July 08, 2004

But Wait - Bush Didn't Lie?

Uranium from Niger - a Brit Government report will soon show Iraq was in the market..

A UK government inquiry into the intelligence used to justify the war in Iraq is expected to conclude that Britain's spies were correct to say that Saddam Hussein's regime sought to buy uranium from Niger.

The inquiry by Lord Butler, which was delivered to the printers on Wednesday and is expected to be released on July 14, has examined the intelligence that underpinned the UK government's claims about the threat from Iraq.

All right, Dems - who's going to be the first to admit they were wrong?

As I predicted you'd have to?

(Via Jay Reding)

Posted by Mitch at July 8, 2004 01:22 PM | TrackBack
Comments

Check this out Mitch!

http://restraininorder.blogspot.com/2004/07/kerry-charged-with-heresy.html

Posted by: swiftee at July 8, 2004 08:01 PM

I'll admit I was wrong when the Bush administration says they were wrong about being wrong. After all, the thing that ignited Yellowcakegate was Ari Fleischer's admission that the statement was erroneous. And then we backtracked, and fudged, and bounced all over the place.

Do I believe the Brit report? Let me put it this way: if there was solid evidence of an Iraq/Niger connection, the Bushies would've presented it, rather than play the "just sixteen words" game.

But fine, I'll admit Iraq may have been looking for uranium in Africa--if you'll admit that President Bush did claim Iraq was an imminent threat, and that there was no connection between Saddam Hussein's government and al-Qaeda.

Posted by: Jeff Fecke at July 9, 2004 01:39 AM

"Do I believe the Brit report? Let me put it this way: if there was solid evidence of an Iraq/Niger connection, the Bushies would've presented it, rather than play the "just sixteen words" game."

Have to? Why? This is intelligence, not a newspaper. The release of intelligence doesn't follow civilian news cycles. There are sources to protect - which is sacrosanct in good intelligence services.

"But fine, I'll admit Iraq may have been looking for uranium in Africa--if you'll admit that President Bush did claim Iraq was an imminent threat, and that there was no connection between Saddam Hussein's government and al-Qaeda."

He never claimed it was an imminent threat, certainly not in any pronouncement I've heard; as always, the four justifications were the UN resolutions, the WMDs, the links to terror (which are undeniable, even if you leave Al Quaeda out) and his human rights record, in concert. And Steven Hayes makes a *great* case for the ties between Iraq and Al Quaeda.

I have nothing to admit, Jeff. All I have to do is wait for the facts to come out, and come together. Of the four justifications, the UN resolutions are public record. Nobody denies his human rights record (although Michael Moore seems ignorant of it. As to WMDs and terror links - it's out there, the evidence is coming together, and time is, frankly, on our side.

Posted by: mitch at July 9, 2004 06:31 AM

"But officials were forced into a climbdown when it was revealed that the only primary intelligence material the US possessed were documents later shown to be forgeries."

According to two former ambassadors and a UC General who were on the ground in nigera, Had contact going back 20 years and were tasked by the CIA with investigating the matter there is NO WAY, repeat NO AY for NIgerian uranium to be mined without the knowledge of COGEMA since all the mines are owned, run, and maintained by them. The majority of uranium now comes from canadian mines and as a result the Nigerians have drastically scaled back their production in the last 10 years. Any increase would be known by COGEMA (which is partiually owned by the french government, thus would concerned in any increase in production) The nigerians actually do not take possesion of uranium at any time, they are paid for the rights, but it it handles by COGEMA exclusively.

According to former Ambassador Joe Wilson,he was told by a nigerian minister that Iraq had mentioned an interest in yellowcake but when this became apparent the minister halted any further progresion ont he matter explaining that it wasnt really in Nigerias power to handle that in any way.

So, was iraq interested in uranium. Yes. Did they get it. NO. Does any of this justify invading a country we had bottled up, with insufficent forces on the ground and without a clear exit strategy? No.

Alright Neocons, whose going to apologise first?

Posted by: JasonDL at July 9, 2004 10:18 AM

JasonDL:

Niger and Nigeria are two different countries.

You knew that, right?

By the way - please post the link to the article you pasted above. It's full of huge holes (the Brits hae just pretty much cut the knees out of under Wilson, and the rest of the info looks like circa-January DNC spin) and I'd like to assess its' veracity in further depth.

Posted by: myatch at July 9, 2004 10:38 AM

The Politics of Truth

Joseph Wilson

Carrol and Graf

Its good read by a guy who truly loves his country, supports thge current war in iaq (unlike myself), loyally served 4 presidents (3 repoublican) and was on the ground in Iraq during the first gulf war.

Posted by: JasonDL at July 9, 2004 06:35 PM

And just today. . . .

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/09/senate.intelligence/index.html

Posted by: JasonDL at July 9, 2004 07:02 PM

Jason,

Where DO you get this stuff? On "Daily Show", Wilson said he opposed the war.

And have you read this yet?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html

Question: How can you tell Joe Wilson is lying?
Answer: His mouth is open (or is fingers are moving on a keyboard).

I notice the left is being VERY quiet about Wilson lately.

Posted by: mitch at July 11, 2004 11:08 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/butler/story/0,14750,1258812,00.html

Alright Repubs. . . . whose going to be the first to admit that they were wrong? Again. after 1000 US men and women were killed over a blatant lie?

At least I read the book before making my judgement call Mitch, is this your form of research and rebuttal? A third grade insult? I usually expect more out of you. . I smell desperation.

Posted by: JasonDL at July 11, 2004 08:59 PM
hi