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June 03, 2004

Pick Your Marks Carefully

Laura Billings has discovered one of the key facts of life in...

...Saint Paul?

She notes:

It's not that they're stupid. In fact, St. Paul boasts of having more advanced-degrees and active voter-registration cards than almost anywhere in the country. These are the people who show up at caucus meetings, volunteer at schools and food shelves and subscribe to Internet news groups to debate arcane city ordinances .

But strangely, many seem almost willfully ignorant of the law you refer to in your letter, the one that grants right of way to pedestrians in marked or unmarked crosswalks.

Do people in Saint Paul ignore the crosswalk laws? Absolutely. Just as they do many other laws.

Think it's any different in Minneapolis? Has Laura Billings crossed any streets between her native Wayzata and her home in St. Paul? Drivers throughout the state are atrocious with crosswalk laws.

But you wanna know one HUGE difference between the cities?

Many of the backstreets of both cities, laid out in the days before automobiles, are very narrow. On many of the backstreets around my house if there's a car parked at the curb the street becomes two narrow for two cars that are approaching each other to pass.

In Minneapolis, both cars will gun it, trying to be the first to the gap.

In Saint Paul, one driver or another will yield and wave the other driver through - unless one of the drivers is from Minneapolis.

Posted by Mitch at June 3, 2004 08:32 AM
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Umm . . . no. I live in Minneapolis, and I always yield. Especially if the other driver looks to be from St. Paul, which means he's most likely drunk.

Posted by: Lileks at June 3, 2004 09:15 AM

With any luck, the Twin Cities can return to the pre-glasnost era, prior to Major League Baseball diplomacy, and the joys of cold war. C'mon Berg and Lileks, let's get ready to ruummmmmbbbbllle!

Posted by: Will Allen at June 3, 2004 09:33 AM

James: Hah! If you were a real Minneapolitan, you'd be on mass transit! You'd be waiting in a long line for the Ventura Trolley (which is currently cruising back and forth in front of my office)! J'accuse!

Will: As far as I'm concerned, the cold war between the Twin Cities was settled when I moved to Saint Paul, imparting the implied victory.

Posted by: mitch at June 3, 2004 09:48 AM

Hey, I lived for years in both towns, in the DMZ near Como Ave, Uptown , near Billy Mitchell, off Grand Ave., lastly in the pre chi-chi Warehouse District, and I must admit my loyalties were always for sale in this conflict. Now that I live in a less tension-riddled region of the nation, I look forward to regaling my child, when she is older, with stirring tales of my younger life in a geo-political maelstorm, when her mother and I crossed paths, like Bogart and Bergman, except without Paul Muni. Or something.

Posted by: Will Allen at June 3, 2004 10:28 AM

I live in a 'burb just west of Minneapolis and we too are cursed with narrow streets. We seem to do just fine with the yielding and hand waving thing. I doubt if anyone from St. Paul ever graces our streets since we're far outside the cozy neighborhood cocoon that most of them dwell in. I used to work with at the airport with a guy from St. Paul who swore that he had never traveled west of Highway 100. And he was proud of it. I also have relatives in St. Paul who didn't realize that there was a western counterpart to their beloved 35E. Once when they were visiting Iowa they became lost for hours because they kept looking for a sign to show the way to 35E, not realizing that it is part of the split of 35 in the Twin Cities.

Posted by: The Elder at June 3, 2004 10:43 AM

in '87, I was freelancing, covering business for an eastside community paper.

I interviewed a woman - in her eighties at the time - who was quite proud of the fact that she had been to Minneapolis exactly once in her life - to meet her late husband at the Milwaukee Road depot when he came home from the war, and claimed she could count the number of times she'd been west of Rice Street on her fingers and toes.

Posted by: mitch at June 3, 2004 10:51 AM

Mitch/Elder:

That is one thing I found wierd about St. Paulites. They are extrmely loyal. When I talk of Rock Bottom (Twins first baseman Doug M will be tapping a Rye beer this evening, hint, hint), or Block E, or anything west of St. Paul, the response is universal "I don't do Minneapolis"

Flash
12 year St. Paulite, albeit a Transplanted Minneapolitan

Posted by: Flash at June 3, 2004 11:49 AM

You guys are going to have a Rye beer at Rock Bottom? I gotta swing by there and sample that. Red Hook used to brew an unfiltered rye that was outstanding. They shelved it and now have a "Sun Rye" which is okay, but not comparable to the unfiltered version.

Posted by: The Elder at June 3, 2004 04:10 PM

Dang - wish I COULD get to the Rock tonight; my new office isn't QUITE as convenient (my old office was upstairs from the Rock: my new one is across from Kieran's).

Mmmm - Kieran's!

Posted by: mitch at June 3, 2004 04:26 PM
hi