{"id":30902,"date":"2012-10-04T12:15:08","date_gmt":"2012-10-04T17:15:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=30902"},"modified":"2012-10-04T12:15:08","modified_gmt":"2012-10-04T17:15:08","slug":"give-me-some-more-of-that-old-time-politics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=30902","title":{"rendered":"Give Me Some More Of That Old-Time Politics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Joe Doakes from Como Park writes in regard to a comment thread the other day about my issues with Apple maps (with emphasis added)&#8230;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Sanity posted this comment to a prior post on SITD:<\/p>\n<p>1. Sanity on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=30778&amp;cpage=1#comment-105737\">October 2, 2012 at 9:26 pm<\/a> said:<\/p>\n<p>\u201c. . . I don\u2019t have a choice about who to buy electricity or water from. Those are regulated utilities because they have a monopoly. I do, however have the choice of buying an iPhone versus Samsung vs not buying a smart phone at all. <strong>Mitch chose to buy the Apple product, knowing that he is supporting a pro-gay rights company.<\/strong> I find that interesting.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For crying out loud, how long does it take Sanity to do his shopping?<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s see, Fiber One or Fiber Plus? Hmmm, how to decide? Price? Fiber content? Taste?<\/p>\n<p>No, that&#8217;s all irrelevant. How do their company executives feel about homosexuals &#8211; that&#8217;s the important thing! Fiber One is made by General Mills, which opposes the marriage amendment, meaning General Mills is Pro Gay. Okay, Fiber One it is.<\/p>\n<p>Now, Land O&#8217;Lakes milk or Roundy\u2019s?<\/p>\n<p>Honestly, do people live like that? How can they stand to think that way?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Joe&#8217;s right &#8211; I mean, if a cell phone manufacturer advertised itself as &#8220;ambivalent about gay rights&#8221;, it&#8217;d be at least irrelevant to my purchasing decision (well behind &#8220;do the maps work?&#8221;), and most likely detrimental (I mean, not only is it unseemly, but marketing via social wedges is off-puttingly cynical).<\/p>\n<p>But yes, Joe, people <em>most definitely do<\/em> live like that. \u00a0 And not just commenter &#8220;Sanity&#8221; (who is, I suspect, one of the &#8220;Penigma&#8221; hive). \u00a0In fact, just about everyone is like that in one way or another.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m conservative. \u00a0As a conservative, poitics aren&#8217;t the be-all and end-all of my life; it&#8217;s a hobby, like playing guitar or blogging. \u00a0But my religious faith? \u00a0<em>That\u00a0<\/em>is important. \u00a0It plays into the major, and most of the minor, decisions in my life. \u00a0For example, in 12 years of being single a second time, I haven&#8217;t dated an atheist &#8211; or even anyone who&#8217;s not\u00a0<em>some\u00a0<\/em>variety of Christian. \u00a0In something as vital as &#8220;a potential life partner&#8221;,. some sort of agreement on the basic nature and meaning of life is fairly vital.<\/p>\n<p>As re the company that makes my cell phone? \u00a0Not so much. \u00a0As long as they don&#8217;t trade slaves or donate too promiscuously to Democrat and anti-liberty causes (as the company that used to own Pepsi, Pizza Hut and Taco Bell did for many years with their support for The Brady Organization &#8211; until a boycott from people like me got them to reconsider), I don&#8217;t really care.<\/p>\n<p>For liberals, on the other hand? \u00a0It&#8217;s a stereotype that politics are more important than religion for liberals &#8211; but stereotypes become stereotypes for a reason. \u00a0In a dozen years on the dating market (more or less enthusiastically) I&#8217;ve never had a conversation with a self-identified liberalette go south over my religion, my taste in music or my choice of cell phone. \u00a0But I\u00a0<em>have\u00a0<\/em>had three or four send me emails oozing horror when they discovered I was a conservative. \u00a0&#8220;I could\u00a0<em>never\u00a0<\/em>date one of&#8230;<em>you<\/em>&#8220;, they say. \u00a0Prodded, a few have replied to the effect of &#8220;because I think having some agreement on the basic nature and meaning of life is fairly vital&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>So even if all you have to go by is stereotype (as is the case with the commenter in question) and assume I\u00a0<em>oppose\u00a0<\/em>&#8220;gay rights&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t, and have likely done more against anti-gay bigotry than most liberals anyway &#8211; it betrays one of the great aspects of the left-right culture clash; for conservatives,\u00a0politics\u00a0is a necessary evil, a chore you do for the greater good, like cleaning the septic tank, so you can get to what matters.<\/p>\n<p>For liberals, politics and its attendant optics and messaging and symbology &#8211; let&#8217;s call it &#8220;liturgy&#8221; &#8211;\u00a0<em>are\u00a0<\/em>the point.<\/p>\n<p>The commenter in question needs to remember that.<\/p>\n<p>Also learn basic logic.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joe Doakes from Como Park writes in regard to a comment thread the other day about my issues with Apple maps (with emphasis added)&#8230;: Sanity posted this comment to a prior post on SITD: 1. Sanity on October 2, 2012 at 9:26 pm said: \u201c. . . I don\u2019t have a choice about who to [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16,18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-30902","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-conservatism","category-pc"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30902","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=30902"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30902\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":30904,"href":"https:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30902\/revisions\/30904"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=30902"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=30902"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=30902"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}