I remember thirty years ago, when all the Democrats who’d backed the wrong side in the Cold War got very, very quiet when the crimes of the Soviets over the previous seven decades became too clear to miss.
They ducked, weaved and deflected – but they ultimately got quiet.
As we speak, Iranian police and “Basij” – the Iranian version of Brownshirts, ZOMO or government-sanctioned “Anti”-Fa – are gassing, beating and shooting people protesting the death of a woman who was beaten to death, not for not wearing a hijab, but for not wearing it right. Up to 400 have died, and the demonstrations – which the Biden Administration hasn’t thrown under the bus quite yet – aren’t slowing down yet.
Seeing how the most stridently Muslim members of the Democrat Party, and 3/5 of “The Squad”, are doing exactly the same thing re Iran:
It is obscene that the Palestinian-American activist Linda Sarsour and U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar have failed to say anything about these brave Iranian women, let alone offer their moral support.
Sarsour and Omar continue to glorify their wearing of hijab as a protest against white racism and alleged “Islamophobia.”
U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib posted a statement Sept. 23 expressing solidarity with the protesters “as they fight for a woman’s right to bodily autonomy and against police brutality in the wake of the horrifying murder of #MahsaAmini.”
I’m so looking forward to sitting on the right side of history and heckling Omar.
Fox again:
“Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov on Saturday urged Moscow to consider deploying low-yield nuclear weapons in Ukraine after Russian forces retreated from the city of Lyman.
In a post shared on Telegram, Kadyrov said he believes “more drastic measures should be taken, right up to the declaration of martial law in the border areas and the use of low-yield nuclear weapons.”
Yeah sure…but can the trucks make it to within firing range without getting a flat tire?
Moot point. Putin is just bluffing again…like he did when he warned about admitting Ukraine into NATO.
I hope someone wiped Pedo Joe’s butt. He’s gonna need a clean diaper.
Today I listened to the Commentary podcast (very neocon). When host John Podhoretz heard co host Noah Rothman mention, offhandedly, that it was possible that Putin would actually use a tactical nuke, Podhoretz was nearly speechless. He finally stuttered out that, in that case, we had to do whatever we had to do to de-escalate. Rothman gave no ground, though he did concede that is was “unlikely” — not “highly unlikely” — that Putin would use a nuke and that if it came about, so be it. Anything to save Ukraine. Rothman said that he would only get worried if Russia’s 12th directorate was activated.
The podcast was recorded last night, and today we have reports that Russia’s 12th directorate is on the move.
I have no dog in this fight, I just calls ’em like I sees ’em ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yes, Swiftee, Russia is deploying T-62s and pillaging the air defenses of St. Petersburg because they just have so much in reserve. That’s also why they’re instituting a draft (including in occupied regions of Ukraine) and buying ammunition from North Korea.
UMMP; one or two trains worth of radiation-hardened APCs still leaves an awful lot of Russian soldiers exposed to the blast and fallout, don’t you think? Plus, at the rate Ukraine is advancing, Putin may not have much time to make decisions.
I’m still going to say it; legendary Russian supply chain excellence dating back to Tannenberg has got to be weighing on the little twit’s mind as he tries to pull his fat out of the fire. Even if it doesn’t, the fact that Ukraine’s Air Force is still flying missions would seem to allow a certain amount of time for a much bigger air force to “reach out and touch someone” if those trucks and trains ever get moving.
All of you commenter who think that Putin will be forced out, who do you think will replace him and why do you think that person will be better than Putin? Surely you’ve thought about this, and aren’t running around half-cocked.
^^ To all you SiTD Putin sympathizers spending your days trying to pretend Russia is innocent, have you not noticed that Putin has lost it? Look at the trajectory of his recent decision making. It is unlikely to get better.
☢️ Five reasons why Putin can’t use nuclear weapons in Ukraine ☢️
1. Nuclear weapons are a strategic deterrence and to use those will rob the Kremlin of the last line of its skunk defense strategy that is born more of weakness than a position of military strength.
2. Using a nuclear tactical war-head on Ukraine’s widely-dispersed forces won’t have any real military impact; to use those on any city like Kyiv or Lviv will be so horrendous, the Kremlin can expect to be immediately hit with conventional cruise missiles. In such an event, there is a good chance that the Finnish army will seize the Russian nuclear arsenal in the isolated Murmansk base on the Arctic Sea to prevent Putin from using any of those, and there is nothing that the depleted Russian army can do to prevent that from happening.
3. The use of nuclear weapons will also see an alliance of the willing NATO members join the Ukrainians Defense Force in the theater of war and destroy the Russian forces in very short order, because it will be rightfully seen as an attack on all of Europe. Countries like the Finns, the Baltic states and Poland have a long list of historical grievances to settle, and the Kremlin knows they’re chafing at the bit to do so.
4. The prevailing winds in Europe blow West to East, meaning any radioactive fall-out will be blown over Russia and the other Federation members like Kazakhstan who is already siding against Putin. That will open up new military fronts on Russia’s eastern borders that the Kremlin no longer can defend.
5. The plutonium in nuclear warheads has to be replaced every five years to remain effective. Given the evidentially deplorable state of Russia’s conventional arsenal, it is highly unlikely this ever happened. The still-huge Russian nuclear arsenal therefore likely amounts to mostly “dirty nukes”, unlike that of the other nuclear powers of NATO.
Agreed with Emery on the likely response to Russia. Really, if Russia were that great of a power, they wouldn’t be instituting a draft, buying ammunition from North Korea, and buying drones from Iran. Her neighbors know she’s a paper tiger that can’t even buy good tires and perform basic maintenance–or for that matter fix the autoloader on the T-72 so minor hits don’t result in the “Jack in the Box” effect.
The vaunted Belgorod? Look her up on wiki and tell me that a Virginia class sub will have trouble tailing her–and sinking her if she enters the Adriatic. There are reasons U.S. subs don’t have extra “bumps” like the Belgorod does.
What comes next? Well, Kruschev followed Stalin, Doenitz followed Hitler. The pattern, historically, is that great dictators are followed by less evil and less competent men because such men are rare, and they don’t do well around ambitious underlings. With a bit of luck, Russia could skip Doenitz and go directly to Adenauer.
Delenda, you’re not agreeing with Corporal rAT. You’re agreeing with some unnamed twit he found surfing for a coherent thought to post.
Stick with the shit CNN is feeding you. It’s the good stuff.
#MAGA
I’d be on board with a nuke retaliation, if Lindsay Graham and Nancy Pelosi would ride the bomb down Capt. Kong style.
In WWII, all sides had chemical weapons, but none ever used them. And that was because it would not have helped them. Using chemical weapons would not have altered what was happening on the battlefield, and instead would almost certainly have turned their own people against what their leaders were doing in their name.
Their use in WWI showed both sides the impact of chemical warfare on windy days. It was an effective and cruel killer, but the chlorine gas did not understand whose side it was supposed to kill. Perhaps the maniac leaders of WW2 were more perceptive than Putin.
Using nuclear weapons could not possibly help Putin, it would simply guarantee he lost faster.
And how could Putin possibly sell the idea of nuking the very people he says he is trying to liberate?
This is an example of bikebubba going off the rails: “Look her up on wiki and tell me that a Virginia class sub will have trouble tailing her–and sinking her if she enters the Adriatic.”
I have no idea if a “Virginia class sub” can tail and sink a Russian sub, but I do have a pretty good idea that if it did it would start World War 3.
One should not risk WW3 based on a wikipedia article.
Let’s look again at the words of Petraeus:
Just to give you a hypothetical, we would respond by leading a NATO, a collective effort, that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea.
Notice that Petraeus confines his threat to Russian forces in Ukraine, Crimea, and the Black Sea.
I suspect that the US is communicating an identical message to Russia through diplomatic channels. That’s why Patraeus feels free to say this.
So let’s say the Russians believe this threat — despite the incompetence displayed by the pentagon and the State Department in the Afghan withdrawal disaster of just 14 months ago.
So many people believe that our military, state department, and intelligence services have become incredibly competent since that time, despite their being no mistakes admitted or changes at the top.
But I digress.
If war with NATO over Ukraine is our trump card, what else we got? I mean other than degrees of escalation to show we’re serious. Putin starts readying his nuclear forces, we start readying our NATO forces, and so on.
The last thing in the world you want is to be so constrained in what you can do that you have a hundred ways of failing and only a single path to success. Right now it looks like NATO is trying to thread that needle. And failure is complete disaster, not just for Ukraine, but for Europe, the US, and the world.
You don’t risk WW3 based on a wikipedia article. You do, however, take steps to prevent Russia from committing a nuclear atrocity, which is what we would expect if the Kursk entered the Black Sea. The significance of the article on the Kursk is that with all the doo-dads hanging off it, it’s going to be fairly noisy, which makes it an easy boat to track. It’s a real Rube Goldberg machine, IMO.
And yes, I wouldn’t be surprised if the disappearance of the Kursk/Belgorod was under similar circumstances to the sinking of her sister ship. Russian maintenance and craftsmanship was at the center of the sinking of the original Kursk, and a Russian emigre I knew commented that he knew that the crew was screwed as soon as the ship went down because Putin wouldn’t authorize foreign ships to assist, and because he knew from his father, a former Soviet navy man, about how they did things.
Russian maintenance and craftsmanship was at the center of the sinking of the original Kursk, and a Russian emigre I knew commented that he knew that the crew was screwed
Russian maintenance and craftsmanship was at the center of the sinking of the original Kursk
^ Look at Admiral Delenda go! Hahahaha!
No Admiral, it wasn’t a flat tire.
The Kursk sank because she had peroxide torpedoes on board, and one blew up. Every navy in the world operating sub’s knows the danger and risk with them.
I spent 4 years aboard a US Navy ASR (sub rescue and salvage) ship, Admiral. Spent 6 months attending the antisubmarine warfare school in San Diego learning to operate sonar and then 9 more learning how to fix them. The Russian submarine fleet is the match of ours in every respect. In fact, they have technology we don’t have.
and a Russian emigre I knew commented that he knew that the crew was screwed
Oh boy…here we go. Another cul-de-sac filled with subject matter experts, informing our comment threads. Wasn’t that émigré a world renown marine architect?
Admiral, does Peevee come over and borrow your lawn mower? Hahahaha.
Bikebubba, your @4:40 pm contains so much weirdness. I can’t follow the logic. Are you saying that the US & NATO should attack Russian nuclear launch capable submarines if they enter the Adriatic? Why?
And your theory that dictators are followed by less bad dictators is full of holes. The Hitler-Doenitz-Adenauer succession was the result of the worst war in the history of the planet with the US & allies dictating the terms under which Doenitz & Adenauer formed their governments. Not terribly surprising that this resulted in governments friendly to the US and Allies.
The Russian example of Lenin to Stalin is just as valid as the example of Stalin to Khruschev.
And the change from Stalin to Khruschev was not preordained. You had rule by Politburu for two years after Stalin, with Beria in charge of the KGB.
The project to replace Putin with some leader who is better in the eyes of the West is an underwear gnomes project. It resembles the Western plans for the crumbling USSR in 1991: privatize ownership of Soviet state holdings -> ? -> profit!
Look her up on wiki 😳
Wiki?
Hahahaha hahahaha!
This, from the guy who’s first counter argument is always “your source of information is crap”.
Hahahaha
I expect, at any moment, Admiral (or General) Delenda will come looking for Jackie to back him up…
“Delays in economic aid from the European Union to Ukraine are “unacceptable” and must be resolved to avert disaster, a senior Ukranian official warned, pointing to massive budget shortfalls as the EU approved another $4.9 billion (€5 billion) assistance package.”
“Gibs Benjamin’s nao!”
“Speaking to Politico on Monday, a top economic adviser to Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, Oleg Ustenko, slammed the European bloc after it agreed to send another tranche of aid between mid-October and the end of the year, insisting his country’s needs must be met sooner.”
“slammed the European bloc” lmao
“While the United States has raced to inject cash into Ukraine, approving some $20 billion in economic and humanitarian assistance alone, the EU has been more hesitant, instead sending a little over $13 billion between all of its members, according to an aid tracking tool created by the Kiel Institute.
American weapons transfers to Kiev have also dwarfed those of Europe, nearly ten-fold. Washington has reportedly noticed the disparity, with US officials recently telling Bloomberg that the Joe Biden administration “has pressed Europe to do more” to support Ukraine and take on “more burden sharing.”
And not one, red cent to secure our own borders. Putin Delenda Est!!!!🥸
Hahahaha…
Putin’s advisors will likely point out that detonating a little nuclear device in Ukraine will place Xi in an awkward position because he signed a treaty whereby China promised to protect Ukraine in such a case:
“China pledges…to provide Ukraine a nuclear security guarantee when Ukraine encounters an invasion involving nuclear weapons or Ukraine is under threat of a nuclear invasion.”
Source:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/under-new-scrutiny-chinas-nuclear-pledge-to-ukraine-11647007200
China has also just promised (14 September 2022) to protect Kazakhstan, whose population is 18% of Russian origin:
“going forward we will also resolutely support Kazakhstan in the defense of its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity…[and] categorically come out against interference by any forces in the internal affairs of your country.”
Source:
https://eurasianet.org/china-warns-against-meddling-in-kazakhstan-ahead-of-putin-meeting
So, China is voluntarily providing security guarantees to Russia’s neighbors.
China’s security guarantees will be meaningless, and undermine its international authority, if it does nothing. In the Asia-Pacific, that would be a big win for the US as the country you would rather sign a security deal with. Even the tiniest island would take note.
By triggering a little nuclear incident in Ukraine, Putin opens a Pandora’s box and creates a new unfriendly giant on its south-eastern border.
Now, Hitler miscalculated too, never imagining that the capitalists and communists would join forces to oust him.
Dullee, if the Soviet subs were the equal of ours, why was it such a big deal when Toshiba gave them advanced machining that enabled them to make their propellers quieter? And regarding the Kursk, they isolated the problem there to a faulty weld. Again, legendary Soviet/Russian attention to detail, just like I said. and legendary Russian/Soviet concern for the people involved. (source, “Marine Technology News”, yes, linked by wiki….you should learn a little from me about sourcing. Would help you out a lot)
UMMP, here’s my line of thinking. For whatever reason, the Belgorod has been doing mostly local trials around Murmansk (probably because it’s not ready for prime time), but the theater Russia is coordinating with your source is that they are now leaving port “on an important mission.” It’s an obvious war theater ploy that will most likely end with a cruise around under the ice cap. Maybe she’ll deploy that doomsday weapon and kill some polar bears and narwhals in the Arctic if they’re really energetic.
On the off chance it’s not, and Belgorod/Kursk is going to try to attack Ukraine, the only way she can do that is by transiting into the Black Sea. Since she’s really still on sea trials, the question to be asked is “can she be stopped if she tries to transit the Dardanelles and Bosphorus”. Or, if the answer is no, you make some assumptions if she enters the Adriatic.
I don’t know what the Russian sub is doing. Hopefully we’ll never know. It’s brinksmanship, something to make us worry, to widen the envelope of possibilities of things we think that Putin may do.
Have you been keeping an eye on f ups by the US Navy lately? https://www.military.com/topics/naval-accidents
Just wondering… on how many fronts can US armed forces fight/support, especially with non-existent recruitment, firing of unjabbed soldiers and going woke? Russia, Iran, NoKor, invasion on the southern border? House of cards ran by an impotent imbecile, just waiting for a big bad wolf to huff and puff and blow it down.
Russia already has submarines in the Black Sea & a sub base. They run diesel-electric subs that fire cruise missiles.
Somehow, miraculously, they manage to make patrols and perform missile firing exercises and have never forgotten to close the hatch when they submerge. I doubt if the base can service a nuclear sub, but its hard to see how the US could say “you guys try to send your nuclear sub to your base and we will destroy it!”
Dullee, if the Soviet subs were the equal of ours, why was it such a big deal when Toshiba gave them advanced machining that enabled them to make their propellers quieter?
“ah, good enough” Says the student of Mediocretes…😂
And regarding the Kursk, they isolated the problem there to a faulty weld.
“A faulty weld in a torpedo or damage to a torpedo during movement had caused it to leak hydrogen peroxide. Like many torpedoes, the Type 65 used hydrogen peroxide as an underwater fuel.”
lol…you poor thing.
Here’s some light reading</a< on a subject you obviously know fuckall about:
"Investigating catalysts and what sank the Kursk…He believes the accident happened because the HTP pipe broke open, spraying the inside of the torpedo with superheated water, pure oxygen and hydrogen peroxide under high pressure …"
Could have also been a weld, or damage while loading it. There is no way to conclusively determine the cause of an accident on a torpedo that has completely disintegrated, and who's pieces lie a mile underwater. And only a moron would suggest there is.
yes, linked by wiki….you should learn a little from me about sourcing.
*blink* *blink*
Bwaaahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!
Have you been sharing G&T’s with rAT at his FabULous LaKE FrONt EStaTE, Admiral Delenda?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!
Back before WWI, European nations, like France and Germany, would announce a mobilization, put the state on a war footing, and begin sending their troops to the border.
When the nation on the other side of the border saw what was happening, they would mobilize their own troops and march them to the border.
When they all got to the border, and their war equipment & supplies had arrived, the aggressor nation would blink and they would send their troops back home. It’s just a training exercise!
This is the kind of brinksmanship that we do not want to do in an age of nuclear weapons and ICBMs.
OK, Dullee, are you trying to make my point about you needing to learn about sourcing by citing a high school chemistry lesson without closing your link tags? Good job if you are.
UMMP, the Bosphorus and Dardanelles have been officially closed to Russian warships since the war started. The key here is that bellicose/nuclear rhetoric from Putina, combined with a nuclear armed boat wanting to enter, ought to suggest “maybe we ought to clearly say no to this one”. Or, more directly, “try and we’ll send you to Davy Jones’ Locker.”
Regarding needing to end the brinkmanship, that’s precisely the message we’re trying to get across in Moscow.
This is only going in one direction. Russia is slowly being depleted of its ability to fight. It is only a matter of when they retreat back to their borders. Crimea will clearly revert back to Ukraine either through settlement or force. The repercussions and aftermath in Russia are concerning, and represent a real threat.
Good that Ukrainians are not taking Elon Musk’s “advice” on Ukraine seriously, he should stick to what he’s good at (market manipulation and gathering a large following of bootlickers).
Admiral Delenda, a high school chemistry lesson was what was called for.
Admiral Delenda: “Regarding needing to end the brinkmanship, that’s precisely the message we’re trying to get across in Moscow.”
Also Admiral Delenda, ending brinksmanship: ” “maybe we ought to clearly say no to this one”. Or, more directly, “try and we’ll send you to Davy Jones’ Locker.”
This is *exactly and precisely* the kind of inchoate mouth running that has got us to where we are today. Congrats, Admiral Delenda. You have proved yourself worthy of joining the ranks of Admiral Levine.
Cigars and chill in the forward paint locker at 6 bells.
Arrrrgh! Go ahead matey and try it…we’ll send you to Davy Jones locker with a broadside!
Doh…
“Report: U.S. Navy Not Ready for War
A new nonpartisan report conducted at the behest of key Republican leadership in Congress found that the U.S. Navy Surface Warfare is not prepared for war.”
“”Perhaps the most concerning comment and consistent observation amongst interviewees was that the service does not promote or advance surface ship warfighting in a meaningful way,” the report detailed. “Finding and sinking enemy fleets should be the principal purpose of a Navy. But many sailors found their leadership distracted, captive to bureaucratic excess, and rewarded for the successful execution of administrative functions rather than their skills as a warfighter.”
Other issues include “a dominant and paralyzing zero-defect mentality,” little investment in surface warfare officer training, poorly planned surface ship maintenance programs, micromanagement, and over-responsiveness to media culture.
One interviewee even had this to say: “Sometimes I think we care more about whether we have enough diversity officers than if we’ll survive a fight with the Chinese Navy.”
It’s not from Wiki though, so it’s Russian propaganda, probably.
“Arrrrgh! Get me another cabin boy; this one’s broken!”
Arrrrgh! Go ahead matey and try it…we’ll send you to Davy Jones locker with a broadside!
Doh…
“Report: U.S. Navy Not Ready for War
A new nonpartisan report conducted at the behest of key Republican leadership in Congress found that the U.S. Navy Surface Warfare is not prepared for war.”
“”Perhaps the most concerning comment and consistent observation amongst interviewees was that the service does not promote or advance surface ship warfighting in a meaningful way,” the report detailed. “Finding and sinking enemy fleets should be the principal purpose of a Navy. But many sailors found their leadership distracted, captive to bureaucratic excess, and rewarded for the successful execution of administrative functions rather than their skills as a warfighter.”
Other issues include “a dominant and paralyzing zero-defect mentality,” little investment in surface warfare officer training, poorly planned surface ship maintenance programs, micromanagement, and over-responsiveness to media culture.
One interviewee even had this to say: “Sometimes I think we care more about whether we have enough diversity officers than if we’ll survive a fight with the Chinese Navy.”
It’s not from Wiki though (townhall dot com/tipsheet/zachbauder/2021/07/13/us-navy-not-ready-for-war-n2592430), so it’s Russian propaganda, probably.
“Arrrrgh! Get me another cabin boy; this one’s broken!”
Doh…
“Report: U.S. Navy Not Ready for War
A new nonpartisan report conducted at the behest of key Republican leadership in Congress found that the U.S. Navy Surface Warfare is not prepared for war.”
“”Perhaps the most concerning comment and consistent observation amongst interviewees was that the service does not promote or advance surface ship warfighting in a meaningful way,” the report detailed. “Finding and sinking enemy fleets should be the principal purpose of a Navy. But many sailors found their leadership distracted, captive to bureaucratic excess, and rewarded for the successful execution of administrative functions rather than their skills as a warfighter.”
Other issues include “a dominant and paralyzing zero-defect mentality,” little investment in surface warfare officer training, poorly planned surface ship maintenance programs, micromanagement, and over-responsiveness to media culture.
One interviewee even had this to say: “Sometimes I think we care more about whether we have enough diversity officers than if we’ll survive a fight with the Chinese Navy.”
It’s not from Wiki though (townhall dot com/tipsheet/zachbauder/2021/07/13/us-navy-not-ready-for-war-n2592430), so it’s Russian propaganda, probably.
The past is of course an important context, but Ukraine also represents an important case of the importance of future economic geography. The north rim of the Black Sea is an important trade corridor between Europe and South Asia and the Far East. For example, the future economic value of the Muslim republics in Central Asia, the “stans,” is very much a function of the security of an open door to European markets around the Black Sea. Chinese Belt and Road investment in the region is a stranded asset unless an amicable corridor around the Black Sea can be developed. Accordingly one way to look at Ukraine is to see it as a cork in the bottle constraining much future economic development in a vast space of Eurasia.
It is hard not to see Chinese long-term interests favoring an independent Ukraine with an open door to European markets tied too the Far East through a secure corridor not subject to disruption by geopolitical tantrum. To move to the next level of global power, China must extend and consolidate its power across central Eurasia. A divided Eurasia diminishes Chinese potential geopolitical power.
To the west of Ukraine, Russia has proved itself to Europe to be an unreliable energy supplier and a geopolitical disruptor of major import. To the east of Ukraine, Russia is proving itself an irresponsible hegemon over Eurasia’s most important land transportation corridor. China needs increased autonomy for these countries not subservience to a corrupt Moscow regime. China has no interest in a reconstituted Soviet Union in Eurasia.
Russia is firmly establishing itself as the brigand power of Eurasia — and that is a long-term problem for almost everyone else in Eurasia. It is hard not to find a trace of negative consequence from Russian aggression in Ukraine wherever one looks across Eurasia and beyond.
The shape of future economic geography of the greater Black Sea region is going to shape whatever equilibrium emerges from the coming conflict. Ukraine sits dead center between east-west fault lines and north-south fault lines.
If Putin goes nuclear, he may create a pan-Eurasian consensus for a post-Putin Russia. Not Anglo-Saxon “satanism” but rather pan-Eurasian solidarity will do his regime in.
oops, forgot to add Taiwan to the list of fronts.
MP, I doubt very much a giant nuclear sub is gonna get through Bosphorus straight undetected. Diesel-electrics though are very well suited for short trips (as in underwater) and can be quite stealthy.
Those are some great “squirrel” arguments, Dullee. Yes, the U.S. Navy isn’t at full strength for a number of reasons, but that’s an entirely different thing than Russian trucks unable to go 100 miles without losing tires. It’s an entirely different thing than an army relying on the same kind of fabric scraps to put on soldiers’ feet that were described as common during the war against Napoleon in War and Peace. It’s an entirely different thing than soldiers being told to raid their wives’ purses to get tampons because they don’t have decent first aid supplies.
Well said by JPA regarding the Belgorod. At < 360 feet deep and with a shipping channel only 700' wide, it's going to have trouble transiting the Bosphorus even surfaced, and hence its "disappearance" is simply typical Russian bluster. Little voyage, hopefully she doesn't sink, and hopefully she doesn't cause an environmental disaster by trying out some of her nukes.
Bikebubba, escalation is about potentialities, not actual violence. We used to know where the submarine was, now we don’t.
UMMP. that’s the missing sub we know about….
Y’all fools don’t get it. Putin isn’t gonna lose this war, and short of an all out nuke exchange (fine by me), Ukraine is going to be a Russian puppet state. The US federal police (FBI; ATF; DHS) are training on KBG tactics, and can’t even keep White Supremacists(tm) under control….you think former KGB chief Putin can’t keep control of his population? lol
Y’all are placing bets by players that are proven losers….continue.
Yes, the U.S. Navy isn’t at full strength for a number of reasons,
Hold it, Admiral Delenda. The links I shared said nothing about strength; they pointed out the fact that our military is a fucking mess. The people the do have are confused, and unmotivated pretty muck the mess I walked into after the Viet Nam debacle. It said they are not maintaining the hardware they have…according to you, that’s a fatal flaw.
Now I see why u love Wiki…easy for low IQ’s to digest.
Yeah, our military is shrinking, because young men don’t want to die for buttseks, men in dresses and corruption…they’ll fight with us. You stay put and watch Brett Baer for the latest updates.
Delenda: “Their tires will go flat before they launch!”
🤣
Dullee, I seem to remember you predicting that Russia would quickly take all of the Donbas when they withdrew from Kyiv….several months ago. Suffice it to say that your emulation of Nostradamus needs a little work.
Besides, a country that’s using up Soviet era ammunition and is issuing Mosin-Nagants to new recruits (still determining whether they get ammunition or food as well) is going to have trouble reviving an offensive, to put it mildly. Even many Russian government officials are starting to speak up against Putin. It’s a matter of time before Putin either asks Biden for that Dacha in San Francisco Bay, or he ends up with polonium in his borscht. It’s the Russian way.
Right, General Delenda.
The Donbass is in complete control of Ukraine
The Russkies will soon be sending in troops with clips of 10 rnds of ammo, and telling them to pick up mosant nagant rifles from the dead as they go…just like the good old days….
Hajaja! ,😂
Yes, Dullee, it’s all made up, like today when a Ukrainian Lieutenant looked at a boot worn by a deceased Russian soldier and found out the boots were made in 1983. Certainly it’s not like Russia’s army in Kharkiv Oblast fell for the same trick von Hindenburg used at Tannenberg, and certainly it’s not like Russia’s army is forgetting the lessons Tolstoy wrote about in War and Peace by issuing recruits summer uniforms….in October.
All made up. Propaganda. Even when it’s things where there’s photographic evidence.