The New Lubyanka

Joe Doakes from Como Park emails:

Been reading claims that the US holds political prisoners to punish Trump supporters.  Here’s a list of everybody arrested in the Four Hour Insurrection with their charges and detention status.

A lot of them are out, either on bail or personal recognizance.  A few  haven’t had their bail set yet, which strikes me as being a ridiculously long time to get around to it.   Only a few have been denied bail and remain in jail: those are mostly people who allegedly attacked cops or were engaged in Assaultive / Violent Behavior. 

Attacking a cop is still not enough reason to deny bail in any ordinary criminal case.  The courts have consistently held that bail is a constitutional right.  It’s being delayed/denied.  The charges against the January 6th accused aren’t serious enough to support the denial of bail.  And denial of bail for trespass-type offenses while holding the accused in solitary confinement, is inconsistent treatment considering that we’re emptying the jails everywhere else so people don’t catch Covid.
The hype could simply be complaints from defense lawyers looking for a better deal for their clients, or from political grifters who will seize any stick to beat the administration.  But the fact the DOJ’s own list confirms the claims makes this smell political. The fact the government refuses to turn over video evidence makes it smell political.  The fact the judge made histrionic claims to justify the sentence for a non-violent protester makes it smell political.   It smells like an attempt to punish these Trump supporters and intimidate the rest.  It smells like federal law enforcement is holding political prisoners.  That’s Third World banana republic stuff, like stuffing ballot boxes or imposing martial law on the capital city or calling for ‘reeducation camps’ or telling the media which news stories to take down.   That stuff could never happen in America, right? 

Right?

Joe Doakes

Democracy can not survive if people don’t trust its institutions to be even-handed.

We’ve got a big problem, then.

26 thoughts on “The New Lubyanka

  1. Still waiting for our extremely powerful and well paid DoJ guys to flush this out this “Q” person. I bet he’s got a secret underground lair, maybe disguised as a volcano. I saw that in a movie. Or maybe in a cloud fortress. I saw that in a movie, too.

  2. MO.
    Actually, I think that he/she has a secret base under the polar ice cap.

  3. Remember Woody Kaine, the guy who was arrested after his group attacked a group of Trump supporters at the Minnesota state capital?

    After setting off fireworks inside the capital, spraying lawfully assembled pro-Trump people with bear spray and throwing punches, police tried to arrest him.

    From Heavy.com “Police told the Pioneer Press of Linwood Kaine: “The officer was able to get ahold of Mr. Kaine, but he got up, squared off with the officer and the officer tried to take him to the ground again.” He was then sprayed with pepper spray and “was taken to the ground, but continued to resist, at which point another officer deployed a knee strike to get him to cooperate with the officers and put his hands behind his back,”

    He got off with $150 fine.

    So let’s talk about big government and socialism. Countries like Denmark have it and people there seem to like what they have – but for it to work, there must be trust. High trust in government, in institutions, in the press.

    We don’t have that.

    So for those who want to build a socialist utopia, begin by building trust – and start with the people you don’t like.

  4. “He got off with $150 fine.”
    I have a friend who, thirty years ago, through a punch at a cop.
    He got six months in the pokey, and a felony conviction that dogs him to this day.
    Of course, he was an appliance reparman, not a senator’s son.

  5. I ain’t no senator’s son, but I think that if I had been arrested while peacefully protesting during the Floyd extravaganza, my bail would have been posted by concerned citizens within hours, assuming I was held in custody at all.

  6. Sometimes that little fact gets lost: Ashli Babbitt and three other Trump supporters are dead today because of Trump’s endless lying about the election he lost by 7 million votes.

  7. It is pretty amazing isn’t it? Ashli Babbitt and three other Trump supporters are dead. Like abracadabra, whoop-di-presto. Kinda like those guns that are killing people in Chiraq every weekend.

  8. Ashli Babbitt is dead because of Trump’s election lies. Many of her fellow insurrectionists face criminal records and prison time. Since Babbitt was Qanon adherent — perhaps as woolly suggests— there should be some criminal liability regarding Q?

    And Trump? He walks free, and continues spreading the same lies that incited Jan. 6.

  9. Trump’s election lies, as you term them, are amazingly powerful. And insidious too. Like evil spirits they float around looking for weakness and then BOOM! another Trump supporter – wait, Qanon supporter! – dead. Like magic.

  10. Scene: Night, urban street, drizzle, uniformed cop looking down at dead body. Detective ducks under crime scene tape and approaches officer.

    Detective: Whatta ya got?

    Cop: Female, Caucasian, shot in the chest at close range. ID says she was former military. Could this be an assassination? A terrorist attack?

    Detective: Hang on, let me check her Facebook page. Nah, it’s nothing like that.
    She’s a Trump supporter.

    Cop: Dang, another one, third one this week just dropped over dead because of his lies. I wish that son-of-a-gun would knock it off. This body count is getting ridiculous. Pretty soon, he’ll be giving The Bloods and The Crips a run for their money.

    Detective: Yeah, well, it’s none of our business. Wrap it up, I’m outta here.

    End Scene

  11. TDS definitely played a role in Babbitt’s demise. Same could be said about the Capitol insurrectionists. Sad really…

  12. “I don’t know what Trump Derangement Syndrome is, but it mentions Trump so it must be bad. And you can quote me on that.” -Emery

  13. spreading the same lies that incited Jan. 6.

    Any day now, the Emerys of the world will post the video evidence that showed Trump incited a riot at the Capitol on 6 Jan.

    Any.

    Day.

    Now.

  14. Ashli Babbitt is dead because of Trump’s election lies.

    No, she’s dead because an unnamed Capitol Police officer shot her, an unarmed woman. Anything else is speculation.

  15. ^ Check with woolly— he seems to use the term regularly..

    When I look at Trump I see a fat, vain, overweight, childish idiot who combs over his clown hair and wears more makeup than a fashion model. Others look at him and think, “I’m willing to die, be labelled a traitor and locked up in jail for him”.

    Weird.

  16. Ha!
    If that’s all you see, Emery, please explain the obsession.
    You are a walking example of TDS, so changing that definition will be difficult for you.

  17. Regarding Ashlii Babbitt, we might actually point out that Trump did not, in fact, encourage anyone to storm the Capitol or use other kinds of violence, but various Democrats, including the Vice President, have encouraged violence with Occupy/Antifa/BLM. Just sayin’.

    We might also note that one of the big reasons that the protests came up there was that half the electorate watched as seemingly safe leads in Michigan, Georgia, and Arizona disappeared as lots of votes came in from Democratic enclaves, and as they knew that vote security regulations and laws had been loosened.

    Another reason, one pertinent to this investigation, that the protests occurred is, again, that arrests and prosecutions were few and far between when Hilliary was running an illegal server, when Occupy/Antifa/BLM were burning U.S. cities (including federal government installations), but as soon as Hilliary and company put together a BS dossier on President Trump, the investigators put in full effort.

    Yeah, we’re seeing a pattern, and we don’t like it.

  18. Emery on July 29, 2021 at 1:00 pm said:

    ^ Check with woolly— he seems to use the term regularly..

    Mindlessly rambling on again, stringing together phrases he has heard but knows not their meaning. All people with TDS eventually get to the point of frothing madness.
    What is ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’ – and do you have it?
    Chris Cillizza
    Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
    Updated 6:52 AM EDT, Fri July 20, 2018
    . . .
    Worried you might have Trump Derangement Syndrome? Wondering where it came from? I’m here to help!

    Let’s start with what Trump Derangement Syndrome means.

    Urban Dictionary offers up this handy definition: “Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason.”

    Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three distinct phases or stages:

    “In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect’s every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world.”
    “The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim’s vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of hyperbole.”
    “As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality.”
    . . .

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/19/politics/trump-derangement-syndrome/index.html

  19. And Emery is exhibit A for the last stage of Raimundo’s definition of TDS: “As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality.”

    Emery believes that the Mueller report found that Trump had colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election from his preferred candidate, Hillary Clinton.
    This belief is “eccentric,” to say the least.

  20. The important thing about TDS is not that it was caused by Trump.
    Trump is a human being. He does not have magical powers. I suppose that Trump, the human being, is a lot like other human beings.
    He is neither god nor demon. Trump is in his late 70s, chances are he will be dead within a decade, maybe sooner.
    The demonic Trump only exists in the heads of TDS sufferers, and once you have let a demon into that space, well, God help you. And an awful lot of people seem to have let them demon in.

  21. perhaps as woolly suggests
    This is the 4th time Emery has attributed to me words that I did not write.

  22. This is the 4th time Emery has attributed to me words that I did not write.

    He trounces those straw men regularly. You could say he’s a master debater.

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