Rumor Of War

The Chauvin trial wrapped up yesterday. As this is written, the jury is deliberating.

But well into last week, Saint Paul was strapping in.

Holiday station, Hamline at Marshall. That’s some solid woodwork on those plywood window covers.

Saint Paul is smoking ’em if they got ’em.

Laundromat, University and Pascal. At least 2-3 other buildings east and west of here burned last May. The strip mall across the street was more or less looted out – allowing the property managers to sell to the owners of “Minnesota United”. The riots were indeed very good for Saint Paul’s plutocrats.

The Midway Menards hasn’t yet piled stacks of plywood in front of the store – which is the “smoke ’em if you got ’em” moment, from where I sit.

Some merchants are of the opinion that some kind of supplication to the crowd might buy them some grace.

I’m not going to say what the store is – and I’ll block anyone who tries, and it’ll be so permanent it’ll make “Dog Gone’s” exile look like Woody Kane’s sentence.. They’re a local, family-run business, and they were burned and looted, although not totaled out, last year. They’ve been warned to expect more of the same. Fingers crossed for all of them.

But most of the biggest victims last year were immigrants and merchants “of color”, and there’s no reason to expect the white left-wing college kids who did most of the burning last year are going to be any different this time around.

If some legislator wants to push a bill removing “duty to retreat” and allowing self-defense of felony-level destruction of property via lethal force, I’ll pound all the pavement they need.

Or, y’know, assert the rule of law:

Assert it equally, regardless of class, race or all the rest? Absolutely – suggest otherwise (or suggest I suggest otherwise) and you are depraved and need to be shunned.

But assert it, for chrissake.

94 thoughts on “Rumor Of War

  1. Paddy

    justice

    Perhaps.

    Rumor false

    “He jests at scars, that never felt a wound”
    Romeo and Julet, Shakespeare.

    My neighborhood got curb stomped last May, Pad. It’s all pretty abstract out where you live. Not here.

  2. Emery,

    Answer my question. Why was I waiting for this.

    Answer my question today.

  3. Pad

    Your remark, if I’m reading you correctly, seems to imply that since there was no violence (yet) that there was never any threat.

    And yet stores are boarded up all over the place – in all the examples I showed, stores that weren’t, but boarded up in the past week – there are many more that never unboarded over the past year.

    Every police station in both cities is surrounded by several layers of chain link and razor wire.

    So trying to mock me about this is a little odd, given how many businesspeople and government leaders and – judging by the people in grocery stores this past few days – regular folks were visibly concerned about it.

    And of course, we are the ones who’ve already been through a round of this – something that may be completely abstract to people living in the far southwest suburbs, to pick a random example.

    Care to elaborate?

  4. Also, Pad,

    Since you’re playing “Hahahahahaha, no riots”, I urge you to drive up and down Uni, Snelling and East Lake and stop in and tell all the boarded up businesses how stupid they were to listen to the police telling them to take precautions.

    The business in the third photo in my post would love to have a chat with you, I suspect.

  5. Dr. Pete;

    Oh, you can bet race hustler Bennie Crump got his share long before the family saw a dime. I’ve heard that he got around $13 million. Of course, in addition to the other race hustling Sharpton, the other fraudulent “reverand” Jesse Jackson, was also here for a handout.

  6. ^ Bosspony: Crump getting a cut is a function of him being a plaintiffs lawyer.  It’s not a function of any racial paradigm. He gets his cut when Minneapolis makes the payment.  You’re not one of the William Mitchell grads here at the blog, you must just be one of the critical thinking Mensa members.

  7. Since you’re playing “Hahahahahaha, no riots”, I urge you to drive up and down Uni, Snelling and East Lake and stop in and tell all the boarded up businesses how stupid they were to listen to the police telling them to take precautions.

    The Sally Beauty Supply store in Saint Anthony Village boarded up last weekend. A number of stores in Roseville boarded up, too. The fear is real.

  8. Kraep,

    For starters – you gotta admit Crump has a “market vertical” pretty well defined.

    Also – what’s with your curious fixation with “William Mitchell”?

    For starters, it’s not like graduates of Tier 1 schools haven’t had plenty of the same opinions (and re “Unintentional 2nd Degree Murder”, they still do).

    Also – as you are no more a law school grad than I am (and I’m gonna speculate I’ve had more pro se time than you, and I’m currently undefeated at that).

    A friend who is a Tier-1 grad (U of M Law) points out that lots of firms and. prosecutors offices love hiring William Mitchell grads from the nigh school program. They figure anyone who takes on law school along with a day job is going to have the work ethic of a sled dog.

    Your snobbery seems not only incongruous (given you aren’t a lawyer either) but not very well informed.

  9. Mitch, you asked a question in a strong voice then disappeared (as your want) as trollbots run amok COMPLETELY ignoring (as they always do) your empty and obviously vacuous directive. And now you are doubling down. It is as if you learned how to draw lines in the sand from 0bumbler.

  10. The Sally Beauty Supply store in Saint Anthony

    The Sally in the Midway didn’t.

    Because they got burned and looted out in May.

    And then their lease got terminated so the property owner could sell the land to Bill McGuire and his soccer team.

    Whose property was utterly untouched, and who stands to prosper immensely from all the bargain basement real estate they picked up after the re events of this past year.

  11. MBerg wrote “Answer my question. Why was I waiting for this.”

    Don’t go all Ken on us now Berg.

    I thought you would have a few days worth of material….

  12. MBerg—let me give you my best impression of one of your “hot takes”.

    Look at the Cop-Hating Woke Intersectional Antifas over at… *checks notes* the Fraternal Order of Police

    Patrick Yoes, president of the National Fraternal Order of Police, the nation’s largest law enforcement union, said “Justice has worked as it should” in response to the conviction of Derek Chauvin
    “The trial was fair and due process was served,” he added.
    https://t.co/9iTo6P4ePF?amp=1

  13. Mitch,

    I admit Crump has a ‘practice’ well defined, just as Eric Nelson or Earl Gray or Robert Bennet has a ‘practice’ well defined.  It’s not the same question, and again an example sloppy thinking, low-info, and low understanding among the commentariat here.

    You’re right Mitch, I’m not a lawyer.  And if you’ve argued your case in family court such that I understand your blog correctly, yeah, you’ve had more pro se time than me.   And you and the SiTDers have been consistently wrong on analysis and fact on the GF case, and I’ve been right.

    I could probably use to tighten up my William Mitchell joke, as it is true that getting through their program typically represents a meaningful accomplishment by serious people.  But the lawyer(s) here at SiTD, wherever they come from, have never displayed correct understanding on GF/DC.

  14. The jury voted exactly as I said I would have voted: “Guilty on all counts so please don’t burn my house down.”

    That verdict does not require an understanding of Minnesota use of force law, it requires an understanding of Madame Defarge. I don’t believe they teach that in any law school.

  15. (1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting;

    OK, it can be unintentional if the person is attempting to commit another felony. What is that felony, Paddyboy?

    QED. The jury could not have been working on that provision of the law. Hence they found that Chauvin was guilty of both intentional and unintentional murder for the same act.

  16. JD, I am no lawyer and THEREFORE I predicted a guilty verdict, exactly for the same reason. There is no fucking law left in this country because nobody is upholding it. Oh wait, unless you are a white male, then you will be lynched in the spirit of the law™.

  17. Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz suggests the jury was not convinced of guilt but was intimidated by the mob:

    Rob Schmitt: A lot of the rhetoric around this case, the media coverage on this case, and also the violence all last summer did that have an impact on this case?

    Alan Dershowitz: We certainly can’t be confident that it didn’t. We have to assume that the jury heard what Maxine Waters said, what Sharpton said, what Crump said, what others said. I think jurors knew that if they came out with a verdict, other than murder, the top charge there would be violence on the streets. Every mayor was prepared for that. Every police chief was prepared for that. Why do we think the jury didn’t know that and didn’t allow it to enter its consideration? After all, the jurors were potential targets. Their names were released. If they had come to “the wrong verdict” they might be expected to be treated the way one of the witnesses was treated… painted in blood. I think the jurors learned that if they didn’t come up with the right verdict there businesses would suffer, their schools, their neighborhoods… That’s why I believe the case may very well be reversed.

    Did Dershowitz go to William Mitchell? I did not know that.

  18. No one here has claimed to be a mensa person or a lawyer (other than JDoakes).
    Your insecurities are showing, JK.
    We are all just guys on the internet, spitballin’.
    If any of us, liberals or conservative, had seen Floyd snooping around our property or had him pass us a phony twenty we would have called the authorities ASAP & asked them to send a person who was not a social worker to check into it.
    Where were you when off-the-rails drug addict & ex-con when Floyd needed help? Nowhere to be seen.

  19. ^^ Funny how “Liberty and Small Government” types are now defending a Government-sanctioned thug convicted by a jury of his peers.

  20. Lawyer Joe wrote: “Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz suggests the jury was not convinced of guilt but was intimidated by the mob:”

    This is exactly the sort of crazy-ass thing Alan Dershowitz says these days, demonstrating whatever he was in the past, now he’s nothing but a Fox opinion-pornstar, no more a serious legal commentator than Tucker Carlson.

    Magical thinking about the Supreme Court is fairly common rhetoric. You see it in the frequent assertion “we will take this case all the way to the Supreme Court.” But it’s more common recently for ideological reasons — we saw tons of it in the Trump-election-challenge era.

  21. Your 9:36 is nonsense, Emery. It carries no meaning. The peopel who wanted to see Chauvin hanged are the people shouting “defund the police.”
    Jeez, you’re not even trying anymore, just cutting and pasting things on the internet that you never thought about enough to comprehend their stupidity.

  22. “I’ll give you that Congresswoman Waters may have given you something on appeal that may result in this whole trial being overturned,” Judge Peter Cahill told defense attorney Eric Nelson on Monday.

    Cahill said that he was aware of Waters’ comments about “the unacceptability of anything less than a murder conviction and talk about being confrontational.”

    “I wish elected officials would stop talking about this case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law and to the judicial branch and our function,” Cahill added later. “I think if they want to give their opinions, they should do so in a respectful and in a manner that is consistent with their oath to the Constitution, to respect a coequal branch of government. Their failure to do so, I think, is abhorrent. . . .”

    Judge Cahill says the same crazy-ass things about the mob as Alan Derschowitz. Is Judge Cahill also a Fox opinion porn star?

    Did Judge Cahill go to William Mitchell? I did not know that.

  23. Let me get my prediction in early: the Court of Appeals will not overturn all the Chauvin convictions.

  24. The suggestion that SCOTUS will vindicate Chauvin — at all, let alone on this issue — is simply not grounded in reality. It’s pure opinion — it’s not to be taken seriously.

  25. Emery, the lickspittle, whose tenure on SitD is best described as carrying water for murderers, acting as though he has the moral high ground… now that’s risible!

  26. Not addresing clouds, addressing your specific words, Emery.
    Here’s an internet hint for you. If you don’t mean it, don’t write it.

  27. JPA

    you asked a question in a strong voice then disappeared (as your want) as trollbots run amok COMPLETELY ignoring (as they always do) your empty and obviously vacuous directive.

    From what I’ve seen, EI, Paddy and Kraephammer have been on pretty much on topic. Emery is another story. We’ll see.

    And now you are doubling down. It is as if you learned how to draw lines in the sand from 0bumbler.

    So why aren’t you running a blog to show us all how it should be done?

  28. ^^ You removed my reply to your query. Apparently you didn’t like my answer and would prefer conflict—so very SiTD.

  29. So why aren’t you running a blog to show us all how it should be done?

    I’ve never aspired to and am enjoying my time here. Why else would I donate? Are you are suggesting I am not allowed to criticize you for being a Pollyanna and an insane person (from the Einstein perspective), and call you out when your actions/inaction make this blog less enjoyable and sometimes down right unreadable?

  30. An anal swab observed: “Crump getting a cut is a function of him being a plaintiffs lawyer.”

    Yeah, those poor grieving fambly members needed to pay a lawyer 1/3 of the take to deal with a 95 IQ city council that was literally tripping over themselves to pay.

    BTW, Crump is getting Ratio’d real hard on Twitr yesterday and today for claiming the black, 200 lb female thug that was shot by an Ohio cop was an unarmed little girl, when the internet is literally swimming of images showing her very clearly in the act of plunging a knife into another black girl, while her male accomplice was repeatedly kicking another girl in the head.

    That cop’s expert shot placement saved that other girl’s life, literally in the nick of time.

    Not going out on any limb to conclude Crump will disappear like smoke now that there isn’t any gibs to be had. Sharpton won’t even warm up the engines on his jet.

    Maybe you should log in over there and offer some support, swabby.

  31. “It’s pure opinion — it’s not to be taken seriously.”
    Well, duh. What do you think SITD, Emery? You do not seem to recognize what things are.
    I like to think that, at its best, it is a forum where people can state opinions & see how well they hold up to dispute.

  32. Not going out on any limb to conclude Crump will disappear like smoke now that there isn’t any gibs to be had. Sharpton won’t even warm up the engines on his jet.

    You really don’t believe that, DPS, do you? Dontcha know St. Wright was stopped for having a pine tree freshener hanging form his rear view mirror? That’s not a knife you are seeing on the video. That’s not an assault with a deadly weapon. That’s just how people show they love each other. Kumbaya and white supremacy!

  33. Talking about the incident in Cincinnati Ohio yester, jpa.

    I know, so many running around armed it’s hard to keep track.

  34. So am I. I could have added “Hands up don’t shoot” and “I can’t breathe” for effect that truth had left the building long time ago, followed by rule of law.

  35. Moms was on the news yesterday telling everyone how her little girl had a “motherly personality” and was a “peace maker”.

    I get a parent sticking up for their kids no matter what, but ye gods, the shameless denial of the documented facts in an appeal for sympathy is mind boggling. I can 100% guarantee that cop would be welcomed into the house of the girl who was about to get gutted.

    Nope, no opening for Crump Esq. in Ohio.

  36. I like to think that, at its best, it is a forum where people can state opinions & see how well they hold up to dispute.

    Which is one of the reasons I’m so hands-off on the comment section. Partly because there’s a lot of that going on.

    And partly the schandenfreud of watching the opposition get clobbered, over and over.

    I’m only human.

  37. Anyone else notice that CRT has completely taken over the media and political space once occupied by AGWT (Anthropogenic Global Warming Theory)?
    Turned on a dime on May 25th, 2020.
    What both CRT and AGWT have in common is their profound illiberatlity. No dissent is allowed, freedom of speech does not apply to opponents of either. Both are very much “this is reality and what you say about determines your moral worth.”
    Leftists have no idea how obvious it is to non-leftists that their dear ideologies are the result of their own neuroses.

  38. MO, that’s why it’s our duty to counter it at every, single, opportunity.

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