As Allahpundit notes, the Administration is using “Kiddie Human Shields” in its latest PR project – a propaganda video contest.
Which is bad enough. But here’s the part that caught me.
Doesn’t the beginning look like the beginning of a WPA or NRO newsreel from the thirties?
“Doesn’t the beginning look like the beginning of a WPA or NRO newsreel from the thirties?”
It was the NRA and no it does not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTxhz2dBCk
I’d say it looks like something out of Germany circa 1935. A lot of “facts” that were put forth in these videos are exaggerated or outright lies. But if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth. Hey didn’t someone in Germany around that time say that?
“A lot of “facts” that were put forth in these videos are exaggerated or outright lies.”
Care to name one?
“I deserve health care”
Says who? It ain’t in the constitution.
“I deserve health care” = “I deserve to forcibly extract financial value from you”.
How sad.
Bill C:
“It ain’t in the constitution.”
Neither is Air Traffic Control, but that does not mean the Government can not or should not provide it.
Given that the EMC consultants I’ve worked with say that there are few worse EMC nightmares than an air traffic control tower, I’d suggest giving that to the private sector might not be a bad idea, either.
And of course Rick can’t possibly see why the government ought not provide health insurance……decades of failure wherever it’s tried certainly doesn’t count as evidence, does it?
DumbDFL, ever heard of the interstate commerce clause?
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“Care to name one?”
Hey, DumbDFL, look at all the made-up BS in the “winning” clip when the kids say… …In [one] years I will [get a cold] and my parents [will have to sell their heart and liver and kidneys to pay] for my health care.
Most Americans are not doomed to file bankruptcy and loose everything if their kid has a simple arm fracture.
Anyone expecting DogNagIt or Peevee to make any accusations of Obama fearmongering? 😆
K-Rod:
“Sixty-two percent of all bankruptcies filed in 2007 were linked to medical expenses, according to a nationwide study released today by the American Journal of Medicine. That’s nearly 20 percentage points higher than that pool of respondents reported were connected to medical costs in 2001.
Of those who filed for bankruptcy in 2007, nearly 80 percent had health insurance. Respondents who reported having insurance indicated average expenses of just under $18,000. Respondents who filed and lacked insurance had average medical bills of nearly $27,000.”
A broken limb can be quite expensive. Here is a story which puts the tab at $55,000.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/08/BAG7MNEHVM1.DTL
“ever heard of the interstate commerce clause” Sure, it is one reason why I have no worry about the Roberts court ruling against healthcare reform.
Rick, a close look at those studies reveals that the average medical bill that put people over the edge was only a few thousand bucks. Now for starters, as virtually everyone has medical bills, the study could have found nearly 100% of bankruptcies involved medical bills–that’s your reason for the shift. It was simply a leading question designed to get a high response rate.
Now consider the implications of just a few thousand bucks putting one over the edge; more or less, it means that the person had little or no savings, no equity in the house, and a credit record that would not allow them to borrow to pay the bill.
In other words, what it finds is unsurprising; people who do not save for the future and have bad credit tend to go bankrupt when they have unexpected expenses. It says little or nothing about excessive medical costs.
And broken limbs? Maybe if you mangle it, it gets that expensive, but my wrist, and my daughter’s broken leg, were both only a few thousand bucks. And six to ten grand a day for a hospital room? I spent a week in the hospital for gallbladder surgery, and I assure you the bill was nowhere near that much.
More or less, unless Schwartzenegger was in critical or intensive care, the figures you cite are an order of magnitude high. Now I realize (Gore earth temperature, Health insurance deform costs, etc..) liberals tend to get statistics off by a factor of ten to ten thousand, but don’t ya think that here, ya might do good to get things halfway close?
bubbasan:
“a close look at those studies reveals” citation please?
“Now for starters, as virtually everyone has medical bills,” Actually most civilized people don’t.
“the bill was nowhere near that much” The bill is often different than the cost. Was you insurance company paying too?
If you want to dispute the cost I suggest you call “Linda Burt, chief financial officer at the 330-bed St. John’s Health Center in Santa Monica”. They are her figures not mine.
Rick, it’s telling that you’re willing to cite it. Here’s a link;
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/index.php/facts/more/6773/
Average bill for those listing medical costs as a reason for bankruptcy was only $12000. Sorry, that’s not the fault of our medical care system, that’s a boatload of people going through life without ever bothering to save a dime.
And civilized people don’t have medical bills? Oh, please. As if taxes to pay for healthcare don’t go to medical bills? Personally, I think civilized people understand the laws of supply and demand, and thus reject socialism.
And Arnold’s bill? Well, like other civilized people who reject socialized medicine, Rick, I have insurers who apprise me of the total costs–before and after insurer’s deduction–of my medical care, and I assure you that hospitalization costs at Ridgeview Hospital in Waconia and Avista Hospital of Louisville, CO, are an order of magnitude lower than Arnold’s.
The man was either more hurt than we know, or he had some seriously gold plated care. Probably a mix of both, being in the regulators’ paradise of California, not to mention Santa Monica is not exactly a workingman’s town.
RickDFL: sorry for the late response here are a few…
“44,000 americans die each year because of lack of health insurance”
http://www.noozhawk.com/michelle_malkin/article/102509_michelle_malkin_the_bogus_death_statistic_that_wont_die/
“I deserve health care”
You deserve the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And don’t give me the “general welfare” bs.
[O]ur tenet ever was, and, indeed, it is almost the only landmark which now divides the federalists from the republicans, that Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but were to those specifically enumerated; and that, as it was never meant they should raise money for purposes which the enumeration did not place under their action; consequently, that the specification of powers is a limitation of the purposes for which they may raise money. (Thomas Jefferson)
If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions. (James Madison, Letter to Edmund Pendleton, January 21, 1792 Madison 1865, I, page 546)
Using kids for politcal gain is disgusting when any side does it. And they beg for cash at the end.
bubban:
“Sorry, that’s not the fault of our medical care system, that’s a boatload of people going through life without ever bothering to save a dime.”
Catchy campaign slogan, I suggest you run with it.
“Now for starters, as virtually everyone has medical bills,” – bubbasan
“Actually most civilized people don’t.” – dumbDFL
Then how can this be such a crisis?