On “Morning Edition”.
NPR Reporter: “…if it weren’t for the “Alternative Minimum Tax”, Trump would have paid a net tax rate of 3%”.
NPR Anchor: “Right – but there was an alternative minimum tax, and he paid a net rate of about 25% – considerably higher than Barack Obama and double what Bernie Sanders paid. So why the pointless “what if?” You’re “reporting” a complete nothingburger, here.”
(UPDATE: The anchor never said any of that. It was just a dream. The “reporter’s” line is pretty accurate, though).
If it wasn’t for the 16th amendment he wouldn’t have paid anything.
If it was 1960 he’d have paid 75%
If it wasn’t for the gleam in his father’s eye he never would have been born.
What are the odds Trump had these favorable returns leaked. They certainly help to support his narrative .
Rachel Maddow, Oxford PhD, gets rolled by Trump, Penn State BS.
I’d say 50/50 are the odds that Trump is playing the left. I am left with this; the left is corrupt (it’s a felony to reveal someone else’s tax returns) and stupid (the returns contradict their narrative).
Just what I’ve been saying for years. Heckuva job, Rachel.
They certainly help to support his narrative .
How did Trump brand change from 2005 to 2016? Was he less greedy in 2005 than in 2016? Is the 2005 return not accurate? Or fake? Can sHrillary claim ANY year of her life where she paid more than 25%? Truth hurts, aint it? And if sTrumpet did leak it, it proves he is smarter then your average libturd. And certainly smarter than you.
When CNBC even calls out Mad Cow, you know she screwed the pooch!
It astonishes me that crackerjack investigative reporters are willing to commit felonies (or shield those who do commit them) to dig up portions of Trump’s tax returns from a decade ago, but are completely unable to find any hint of Barack Obama’s transcripts from college or law school. It’s almost as if the media is . . . well . . . biased?
Rachel Maddow, Oxford PhD, gets rolled by Trump, Penn State BS.
Trump went to Penn, not Penn State. Having said that, Maddow is intelligent in form but not in fact, no matter what her glittering credentials indicate.
Not to mention MBA at the Warton School.
There must be a hard split between the Left and Right when it comes to examining politicians’ tax returns. I assume that nobody pays more taxes than they are legally required to pay. I don’t care what is on Hillary’s tax return or Trump’s tax return.
What is new and nasty is the desire on the Left to examine tax records for information about a politician’s finances that does not reveal illegalities, but can be used as a political weapon. Donations to non-PC organizations, or investments in non-PC industries.
The “news” about Trump’s 2005 returns is usually accompanied by the announcement that “for decades, it has been traditional for presidential candidates to release their tax returns.” Well, who gives a f*ck? Until Wilson, it was traditional for decades for presidents to sport facial hair.
Trump, I suppose, knew what the “tax return” game was and refused to play it.
I’m not sure that Trump has an MBA. I thought he went to Wharton, but not as a graduate student, e.g., he took undergrad classes.
I ran across this article about Trump’s education in the WaPo from the summer of 2015: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/07/17/yes-donald-trump-really-went-to-an-ivy-league-school/
Even back in mid 2015, the WaPo treated Trump with contempt in what was supposed to be a straight, unbiased news story.
Trump took undergraduate classes at Penn’s Wharton School of Business. He was not enrolled in Wharton’s prestigious MBA program.
Nothing more than a red herring to make sure Trumpcare gets out of comittee.
I guess he didn’t need that MBA anyway.
I would also say the Mad Cow ain’t the only college edumacated liberats that he’s made to look stupid.
PoD: I hope Trump doesn’t allow Trumpcare to bog down his agenda of tax and regulatory reform. At what point will Trump see the writing on the wall and shelve his healthcare initiative and press ahead with his agenda?
Just because I like to make fun of MSNBC:
11/4/16
Scientist predicts 99% chance of Clinton win
Lawrence speaks to Princeton’s Sam Wang, who says Hillary Clinton has a greater than 99% chance of winning the presidency & that Democrats have a strong chance of taking the Senate. Josh Barro & Krystal Ball then discuss polls and Clinton’s star-studde… Duration: 10:39
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/scientist-predicts-99-chance-of-clinton-win-801634371744
Is this Lawrence guy the prep-school and Harvard fellow who threatened to punch Romney’s son?
Why yes he is.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/18/msnbcs_odonnell_challenges_romney_son_to_fight_take_your_best_shot.html
I never get tired of pointing out the ridiculousness of America’s left-wing media:
How Ed Schultz transformed from MSNBC lefty to the American face of Moscow media
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-ed-schultz-transformed-from-msnbc-lefty-to-the-american-face-of-moscow-media/2016/12/20/320713f4-c322-11e6-8422-eac61c0ef74d_story.html
Bottom line there is no Constitutional Requirement for presidential candidate to reveal their income taxes. It’s nothing more than a demand by media for their release. I’m elated Trump more or less told them to PISS OFF!
Trump: “I’ll release my taxes when Hillary releases her 33K of deleted e-mails”
Trump’s education is a BS in Economics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump#Education
Very definitive source that, bb. Wait a minute while I change it and then you can check again. You never know what I will think of next.
Someone beat you to it. Trump’s Wikipedia page looks scrubbed and unblemished.
Wharton School, BS Econ, May 20, 1968: https://web.archive.org/web/20160719213709/http://www.archives.upenn.edu/primdocs/upg/upg7/upg7_1968.pdf
EI, everyone ran on repeal and replace, we don’t do it we get slaughtered in the 2018 midterms. Tax relief will come, part of it in this bill so employers can hire more people and put people back at full time when the employer mandate has been recinded.
I’m thinking that a big part of what’s gone on here is that the biggest problems with Obamacare are the places where the law simply diverges with reality–but in a way that will be politically popular. Taxing the young and poor to pay for health insurance for the old, pretending you can sustain Medicare and Medicaid on 25% payment ratios, eliminating preexisting conditions clauses, and the like are all complete nonsense, but they are complete nonsense with a voting constituency built in.
To eliminate them, you’ve got to persuade the nation not only that they are BS, but also that the consequences of retaining said BS in the law is so big that you’ve got to do it now. Good luck getting guys whose job is to win popularity contests to make this case.
I would love to hear a rational explanation of why the public is entitled to examine anyone else’s tax return, other than to satisfy idle curiosity or to go on a fishing expedition.
Presumably some people do cheat on their taxes. We have a legal framework to investigate and prosecute tax cheats when it is necessary. This is not something that is crowd sourced, anymore than your taxes are investigated by crowd sourcing.
The only crime exposed by the leak of Flynn’s phone calls with the Russian ambassador was the crime committed by the leakers.
The only crime exposed by the leak of Trump’s tax returns was the crime committed by the leakers.
“for decades, it has been traditional for presidential candidates to release their tax returns.” Well, who gives a f*ck?
Hear, hear!
Appeals to tradition by people who have been, for the last umpteen years, cheerleading the destruction of religious and societal traditions older than the US itself.
Kind of diminishes the impact of their protestations.
If Trump released all of his tax returns, and there was no smoking gun, liberals and their allies in the media would then demand to see the tax returns of his kids and his business associates.
Charles Cooke at NRO, no friend of Trump, laments the desire of the Left to find a silver bullet to take out Trump. They don’t want to go through the hard work of regaining all of the elective seats they have lost in the last eight years, especially if it means changing their policies to attract the hated white working class demographic. Instead they are convinced that they can find some dirt on Trump that will lead to his impeachment or resignation, and then everything will go back to the way it was before Trump, before Obama, and before Bush.
Try to keep up. The reporter who was mailed the returns said Trump may have sent it.
Trump tax returns from 2009 onwards reflect Russian funds laundered through Trump Inc. Holdings in Cyprus, Russia, Bahamas and Panama. Trump’s Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross is major shareholder in largest Russian bank in Cyprus, which was used by Deutche Bank to launder Russian money, and is the largest note holder for Trump Holdings. Who does Trump think he is kidding, and how stupid is American public to go along with this nonsense. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article121981259.html
What kind of kool aid they passing out today, Emery? I bet it’s red:
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
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The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putin’s latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.”
The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.
But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
I need to link to this again. This story is being revived and rewritten to make Trump detractors even crazier.
They need to know that the FBI investigated this, found nothing, and the story was forgotten until Hillary lost and the krazee Trump haters were desperate to find anything – anything – to delegitimize his election.
New York Times, Nov. 1, 2016:
The most serious part of the F.B.I.’s investigation has focused on the computer hacks that the Obama administration now formally blames on Russia. That investigation also involves numerous officials from the intelligence agencies. Investigators, the officials said, have become increasingly confident, based on the evidence they have uncovered, that Russia’s direct goal is not to support the election of Mr. Trump, as many Democrats have asserted, but rather to disrupt the integrity of the political system and undermine America’s standing in the world more broadly.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html
The woman behind the obsession with Trump’s server pinging Alfa Bank. is a computer science prof named L. Jean Camp. although she likes to say that she is just a concerned citizen with no political ax to grind, She is a huge supporter of Hillary, and, of course, a deranged hater of Donald J. Trump.
Obama to Medvedev: “This is my last election … After my election I have more flexibility”……. “I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev.
Cozy?
Trump tax returns from 2009 onwards reflect Russian funds laundered through Trump Inc.
And your proof is? You have seen the returns? You have the temerity to accuse sTrumpet of lying? Wait, of course you do. Because when you do, it is alternate facts.
Speaking of NPR:
Mulvaney: ‘We’re Ending Federal Involvement With the Corporation for Public Broadcasting’
My, my, my…
NPR’s wounds are self-inflicted. A public broadcasting corporation needs bipartisan support. It should not serve a narrow segment of the public, it should serve all of the public.
NPR brags that its audience is not at all like the average American:
Across platforms, NPR reaches the nation’s best and brightest. On air and online, the NPR audience is influential, affluent and curious. They are learning more and leading more. Connected to their local communities and tuned in to the latest public affairs and cultural conversations, the NPR audience embodies the thought and opinion leader.
http://nationalpublicmedia.com/npr/audience/
NPR sells itself to sponsors by saying its audience is not average:
http://cdn.nationalpublicmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/NPR.org-and-On-Air-Audience-Profiles.pdf
Great for A&E, really bad for a network that goes hat in hand to the taxpayers. On what wellspring of goodwill from the taxpayers are they trying to draw? They hold at least half of America in contempt.
So Schultz went back to his lakefront home in Detroit Lakes, Minn.
I didn’t know he lived here. I’m sure he feels right at home.
Another reason why you cannot trust any of the media on Trump:
An elaborate hoax based on forged documents escalates the phenomenon of “fake news” and reveals an audience on the left that seems willing to believe virtually any claim that could damage Trump.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/how-donald-trumps-enemies-fell-for-a-billion-dollar-hoax?utm_term=.oogPp0ror#.xmmdWoL8L
So what do you do if you can’t trust any of the media on Trump?
Be an intelligent news media consumer.
Heavily discount anonymously sourced stories and documents.
Recognize that Trump has been in the public eye, and tabloid fodder, for decades. He was also in a highly competitive presidential race and he has enemies in the media on both the Left and the Right.
If Trump was a Grand Kleagle in the KKK, you would have heard of it before Nov. 9, 2016.
Recognize that the Left has gone ape shit over his election, and the Left holds the levers of power in the media, entertainment, academia, and Silicon Valley.
If the fringe of the right went crazy over Obama’s election and reelection, the mainstream of the Left has gone crazy over Trump’s election.
The fringe of the right believed Obama was a “secret Muslim” (whatever that means). The mainstream of the Left believe Trump is a pawn of Vladimar Putin, the tyrant of a country on the other side of the world, with half of the US population and that produces less than 1/4 of US GDP.
You might infer it was the same media that did nothing to point out that Obama could not possibly have been telling the truth when he claimed that a law that would outright ban many kinds of insurance would not deprive anyone of their insurance or doctors.
So, today we have this:
Clinton Ally Says Smoke, But No Fire: No Russia-Trump Collusion
Former Acting CIA Director Michael Morell, who endorsed Hillary Clinton and called Donald Trump a dupe of Russia, cast doubt Wednesday night on allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.
Now the first thing I noticed was that the allegations aren’t specified and are in passive voice. Someone had to make an allegation.
In the body of the article it gives only one allegation that is sourced:
His comments were in sharp contrast to those of many Clinton partisans — such as former communications director Jennifer Palmieri — who have stated publicly they believe the Trump campaign cooperated with Russia’s efforts to interfere in the election against Clinton.
So you have an allegation by Hillary’s communications versus an anti-Trump partisan who would have been head of the CIA if Hillary had won.
What were Palmiere’s allegation?
I found this.
http://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/rachel-maddow-show/2016-12-12
It was all I could find.
So you’ve got the current words of Morell versus the three month old words of Palmieri, Hilary’s communications specialist, that weren’t based on any special knowledge, but were based instead on the now-discredited intelligence report of the Obama administration released last Dec. 10.
That was the report Morell specifically repudiated in the linked interview.
Here is the link to the NBC story on Morell denying that there is intelligence that shows collusion between Trump and the Russians.
Some of what Morell says about the flawed Christopher Steele dossier (the one that claimed Trump personally paid Russian prostitutes to urinate on a bed once used by Barack and Michelle) should have been discovered by journalists. Steele did not talk directly with anyone the dossier names, that he used intermediaries, and the intermediaries were paid.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kidnap-victim-s-escape-car-s-trunk-caught-video-n734236
Sorry, wrong link. Stupid DHTML.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/clinton-ally-says-smoke-no-fire-no-russia-trump-collusion-n734176
Wooly One, I thought you were pulling our lariat when you posted those quotes from NPR. Nobody could be that transparent about their coastal eliteness and disdain for the delporables and get away with it. And yet, there it is. Supported by the money stolen from the deplorables, to use to keep the deplorables under the thumb of “nation’s best and brightest”. Holy shit! You cannot make this stuff up.