…then one can only hope that this is the needle.
A student on a school bus, seeing another student pointing a gun at a third student, wrestled the would be shooter to the ground, almost certainly saving the intended victim’s life.
The school administration reacted… Well, you’ve read this blog for a few years, right? How do you think they reacted?
A Florida high school hero who wrestled a loaded gun away from a football player threatening to shoot a teammate was himself suspended for three days.
The 16-year-old, from Cypress Lake High School in Fort Myers, was punished for his part in disarming the boy who wanted to blast another student on the school bus ride home……But, instead of rewarding the heroic teen who put his own life at risk, school authorities suspended him “for his role in an incident where a weapon was present”.
Good is punished as if it’s evil.
And they say schools aren’t mindless indoctrination centers.
Link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-suspended-preventing-school-bus-shooting-article-1.1278648
The only possible justification I can think of for this is that the school was aware that there was a tremendous amount of bad blood on the football team that led to this, and that student was part of it. But even that is rather tenuous.
It’s a magnet school for the arts, FWIW. Hard to guess that you’d get gang demographics with that one.
It’s a magnet school for the arts, FWIW. Hard to guess that you’d get gang demographics with that one.
You’ve not seen what passes as “art” today, right?
You’ve not seen what passes as “art” today, right?
Good point. But I didn’t want to insult the gang-bangers by connecting them with the modern art scene. :^)
Lemmesee. My guess is they did not want to offend the sensibility of a failed murderer by singling him out. They also wanted to make sure his self-confidence did not get hurt by not being able to carry out murder. Besides, isn’t everyone a hero? And everyone is a hero, nobody is.
Here is a mature and rational thought as distinct from your flawed notions of vigilante heroism.
The school district has a legal responsibility for each student; what the student who wrestled away the gun did was to expose himself to a danger that represented a great deal of liability to the school district (and rightly so).
This student inserting himself into the situation created another magnitude of risk.
BETTER if there were fewer guns to fall into the hands of students.
I get why the school did what it did; while this particular student was successful, a different student doing the same thing in the future could result in not only the would-be-hero getting hurt, but other students getting hurt as well next time.
And this is Florida where guns are as prevalent as grapefruit; there WILL be a next time. Shouldn’t be, but there will.
DG, gonna give you a hint, again; if you lead with a series of personal attacks, your long suffering readers are going to assume you’re full of it. And you do not disappoint, neither in that you began with a series of logical fallacies, nor in that one could grow some great looking tomatoes if one aged and spread your rhetoric.
In this case specifically, it’s worth noting that schools don’t get sued for failing to punish heroes; I looked and saw no cases. What schools get sued for is for failing to deal with known discipline problems and address known hazards.
For what it’s worth, one of the saddest things in the schools is that the Department of Justice is using “disparate impact” arguments to actively prevent schools from addressing discipline problems and dealing with hazards. Thanks, Mrs. Lynch.
what the student who wrestled away the gun did was to expose himself to a danger that represented a great deal of liability to the school district (and rightly so).
You’re right, he should’ve let the other student, plus who knows how many others, including himself, be shot. What sort of liability would the district face then?
And this is Florida where guns are as prevalent as grapefruit;
Hyperbole doesn’t suit you, DG, though it looks to be a well-worn garment in your case.
As someone who lived in Florida for about a decade, I can tell you you’re full of it.
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Full marks for consistency, Dog Gone. That comment parallels your advice that patrons in the Aurora Theater should have sat quietly in their seats waiting for the police to arrive, as the Joker walked up the aisle shooting them.
Dog Gone: “Here is a mature and rational thought …”
The odds of that actually happening are quite low. The quantity of misinformation this woman passionately believes is enormous.
DG,
Two questions – and please answer them, so I don’t have to back to graying out and disclaiming your comments again:
1) So what do you suppose the odds are that the student got the gun legally?
2) So if, heaven forefend, someday some wanna be thug holds a gun to your head, and you see the finger tightening on the trigger, will your condescension toward “vigilantism” comfort you?
Again – please answer, or I’ll revert to my “no more metablogging” policy.
That comment parallels your advice that patrons in the Aurora Theater should have sat quietly in their seats waiting for the police to arrive, as the Joker walked up the aisle shooting them.
Typical of the left, she has no respect for, nor desire to protect innocent life, whether it be in the womb, theater goers protecting themselves from a crazed homicidal maniac, or a heroic student on a school bus. And yes, that student was A HERO. He willingly put himself in the line of fire (pun intended) to protect/save another.
I would hope this students’ parents have the financial wherewithall to sue the school district. That is the only way the asinine zero tolerance trend will ever reverse. They need to be hit hard in the pocketbooks. And yes, that means the taxpayers will end up paying more taxes. Maybe if the taxpayers get hit hard enough from enough lawsuits, they will realize that the school board officials they elect over and over are costing them money. It’s far beyond the time for any hope that any erudite, reasonable, level-headed officials be elected to school boards. The progressive takeover of the education system will only be reduced by bankrupting their failed indoctrination program.
DG,
I can’t believe I missed this:
While you may find some need not to encourage “vigilantism” – we could argue it, and you’d lose the moral argument, but let’s set that aside for a moment – what is most incongruous is that you seem to agree with the school’s policy of treating *all* physical confrontation as morally equal.
So the person who faces down the bully is the same as the bully?
Time to get your moral clock adjusted.
It’s not good versus evil they oppose, it is heroism versus evil. Heroism implies that the individual is capable of making a moral determination and acting on it without the guidance of the political state. Dog Gone has made it quite clear that as far as she is concerned, heroism is itself wicked and needs to be punished by the authorities.
I have a good friend who is an eminent psychologist. Trust me on this. I’d give you his name, but then he’d want to be paid for his analysis, but he says DG fits this profile of a highly manipulative narcissist sociopath or psychopath, based on the tactics she uses:
http://thoughtcatalog.com/shahida-arabi/2016/06/20-diversion-tactics-highly-manipulative-narcissists-sociopaths-and-psychopaths-use-to-silence-you/
Gas-lighting; projection; nonsensical arguments from Hell; blanket statements and generalizations; deliberately misrepresenting your thoughts and feelings to the point of absurdity; nit-picking and moving the goalposts; changing the subject to evade accountability.; covert and overt threats; name-calling; smear campaigns and stalking; preemptive defense; triangulation; bait and pretend innocence; boundary testing and hoovering; condescending sarcasm and patronizing tone; shaming, and more. Yep, they’re all there.