How Doakes from Como Park emails:
Libya will let reporters interview the terrorists who blew up our consulate in Benghazi, but not FBI agents who want to arrest them. The area where the terrorist live is too dangerous.
One word, Mr. President: Noriega.
Joe Doakes
Carter is actually looking pretty good in comparison these days.
At this point Carter’s greatest fear has to be that Obama will eulogize him.
Joey D,
Has Mr. Issa found anything in any investigations?
Did State Deparment cooperate in the investigation? Time to get your head out of your arse if you continue to troll around here, EmeryTheUSAHater.
Were you going to mention any indictments or unlawful conspiracies?
You live in a effing echo chamber, EmeryTheUSAHater. Is State Department cooperating with investigation or not?
Emery, what’s being said is that it’s hard to issue indictments when the DOJ, IRS, BATFE, State, and others are stonewalling the investigation.
To draw a picture, to link IRS action to political perspectives has been a felony since before Nixon. Given that no indictments have been issued for felonies the IRS admits they committed, what is our logical conclusion?
If you said anything but “the IRS and DOJ are stonewalling the investigation”, you’re either hopelessly biased or just plain not thinking.
justplain – I’ll handle that one: No they are not. Based on testimony yesterday from Pickering and Mullen one would understand the ARB was used by State as part of a cover up. Expect Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow to be all over this any day now ……. disgraceful
“Carter is actually looking pretty good in comparison these days.”
Without a doubt. This administration has proved more incompetent than Carter’s, and more corrupt than Nixon’s.
Watching Emery asshat dance because American collaborators of muslim radicals in the cold-blooded murder of American diplomats & military will avoid justice reminds me that someone recently praised his contributions to this site.
I keep tellin’ ya, these people are scum.
Still tilting at windmills? You and Mr. Issa are certainly consistent, I’ll give you that.
I simply can’t understand is how you have to keep digging through muck looking for something to embarrass Hillary Clinton with. She’s half a couple whose drawers fly from the flagpole. We have had documented for us her marital life, professional life, political life and there have been scandals in each. She’s told lies and made racist-sounding statements on both sides which either happened on camera, in front of a mike or within earshot of lots of people. Search YouTube for “Dirt” and half the videos will feature her. Google “scandal” and the results will ask you if you meant “Hillary Clinton.” Blindfold yourself, throw a bale of newspapers from the most recent twenty years in the air and snatch the page in your trousers and the chances are better that it contains the words “Hillary Clinton backs away from” than an advertisement.
No, there is no possible explanation for this other than that Republicans are mentally ill, and that explains everything about it.
Emery, the idea that for the investigation to be legitimate there has to be an illegality uncovered or an indictment issued is not true. This is a political issue, being investigated by a political body. If the investigation reveals that Hillary was an incompetent secretary of state, it’s a damn better we find out now than in the middle of the election season of 2016.
By insisting that there must be a finding of illegality or an indictment issued for the investigation to be legitimate, you are parroting a false narrative pushed by leftist news outlets.
Emily: thread-jack.
The post is about the Obama Administration’s continued humiliation at the hands of Third World tyrants, not about Congressional Republican’s continued humiliation at the hands of First World Presidents.
On Thursday, while denying that a “stand-down order” was given to Special Forces members ready to help Americans who were under siege at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi last September, one of the heads of the Benghazi Accountability Review Board (ARB) admitted that a “hold in place” order was in fact given. Testifying before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Admiral Mike Mullen said that the direction given to Special Operations Command Africa commander Lt. Col Gibson was to “hold in place” on the night of the attacks.
An order was given to NOT HELP Americans under siege. Yep, nothing to see here. Move along. What does it matter?
Back to the topic, so much for the “Arab Spring” and Dear Leader’s “strategery” of “leading from behind”.
Seems like in this case, he’s way, way behind, but not apparently leading in any sane definition of the word.
“In advance of the hearing, House Democrats released an 80-page report that concluded the U.S. military wasn’t ordered to “stand down” during the Benghazi attack — rejecting an assertion repeated as recently as Wednesday by several Republican members of the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
Gen. Martin Dempsey, Mullen’s successor as top U.S. general, rejected the stand-down claim at a Senate hearing in June. The Republican-led House Armed Services Committee endorsed that position after a classified hearing with other senior officials in July. Mullen rejected the charge as well multiple times Thursday, saying it would have been impossible for any military assets to make it to Benghazi in time to make a difference.”
http://tinyurl.com/mjjkn2f
http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Mullen-transcript.pdf
http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pickering-transcript.pdf
“Mullen rejected the charge as well multiple times Thursday, saying it would have been impossible for any military assets to make it to Benghazi in time to make a difference.”
This article makes thequote sound like question-begging, as in:
Q: “Were troops told not to respond to the attack?”
A:”They couldn’t have gotten there in time to make a difference.”
The result could be that person A says “the troops were told to stand down” while person B says “The troops were not sent to help because it wouldn’t have been in time to help”.
I’d really like to know more. The troops may have arrived too late to help the people under attack, but still could have arrived in time to secure the embassy and gather evidence before it disappeared.
Good post, Mitch.
As for me, I’m still wondering why Stevens was there in the first place.
Don’t you think this has been thought through before?
/Gen. Martin Dempsey, Mullen’s successor as top U.S. general, rejected the stand-down claim at a Senate hearing in June. The Republican-led House Armed Services Committee endorsed that position after a classified hearing with other senior officials in July./
No one can ever underestimate the intelligence of the average American or Congressman.
According to the Mullen transcript, Emery, the troops weren’t told to ‘stand down’ (meaning told not to do anything). Instead they were ‘remissioned’ and told to stay in Tripoli rather than go to Benghazi. Using the words ‘stand down’ rather than ‘remissioned’ seems appropriate in context.
In fact it seems like Knauer was splitting hairs so he could get a headline ‘Admiral Denies Troops Were told to Stand Down’.
Did you read the transcript, Emery?
You’re a persistent thread-jacker, I’ll give you that, Emery.
Okay, we can agree that “Stand Down” means “relax, you’re off duty, go hit the bars” whereas “remissioned” means “stay where you are and stay alert.” The troops in Tripoli were remissioned, not stood down. Agreed.
That’s not the issue. Nobody cares whether the troops were on the base in Tripoli or in the bars in Tripoli. The question is why weren’t they in Benghazi, and who told them not to go rescue the Ambassador?
The military spokespeople seem to have adopted the “it was always too late” theory without specifically articulating or justifying it. It was too late to send help during the initial assault; it was too late to send help when we learned the’d moved; it was too late to send help when the SEALs were on the roof taking mortar fire. It was always too late . . . so nobody is to blame.
Maybe. But that’s not the point, either. I want to know who made the decision at each stage, that it was too late. I want the buck to stop somewhere and so far, it hasn’t, because the Obama Administration continues to stonewall to protect someone or something and I want to know who or what they’re protecting and why. I think the American people deserve to know who was running their government on the night we left our people to die.
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At the hearings, Republicans have asked whether fighter jets or ground forces could have been brought up in Benghazi, but were grounded by superiors. If true, that would indeed be scandalous, but each time the evidence has pointed the other way, leaving Republicans mumbling about “unanswered questions”.
“I want to know who made the decision at each stage, that it was too late. I want the buck to stop somewhere and so far, it hasn’t, because the Obama Administration continues to stonewall to protect someone or something and I want to know who or what they’re protecting and why.”
I agree with Mr. Doakes (no surprise there).
Given that we know that the people at State lied about the cause and nature of the attack from the beginning (I don’t believe that is in dispute), it is wrong to assume good faith on the part of the political appointees at the State Department or in the administration.
What Knauer did was shed more darkness than light in an attempt to make Hicks (a career diplomat) out to be a liar.
The media will always default to presenting the narrative that the Obama administration wants, just as in the past they always defaulted to being skeptical about any narrative the Bush administration was trying to push.
“This is a political issue, being investigated by a political body.”
I agree.
Emery, when they say “it would have been too late”, they are more or less claiming what they could not prove–that the battle would be over with by the time forces got there.
There is also the reality that if you’ve got a few hundred jihadis attacking an embassy….well, isn’t that a wonderful opportunity to, you know, help a couple hundred jihadis assume room temperature as you go in to either help or retrieve the bodies?
Sorry, Emery, but I ain’t buyin’ it. This isn’t a serious report, but rather yet another pathetic attempt at CYA from the Blagojevich administration.
You say tomato, I say tomahto. Wait.. was that an echo?
Yes, Emery, because when I say it’s clear the miltary did not act to help, that means EXACTLY the same thing as you alleging they did all they could.
Except for the part about that being nonsensical.