The next section of HF 241 – Alice Hausman’s gun grab bill focused on so-called “assault weapons” – is a little bit confusing:
3.4(2) semi-automatic pistol, or any semi-automatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle with a fixed magazine, that has the capacity to accept more than seven rounds of ammunition;
Does this section mean “any semi-automatic pistol with a magazine capacity of over seven rounds” is banned, as well as fixed-magazine rifles? Or does it only refer to “semi-automatic pistols with fixed magazines of greater than seven rounds”?
I’m not trying to be tendentious here; it could refer to semi-auto pistols with fixed magazines, although I can think of only one…:
…the Mauser C96, and it has an eight-round fixed magazine.
But I suspect it means “semi auto pistols with more than seven round magazines, or any semi-auto rifle with a fixed magazine of greater than seven rounds”.
Which means this pistol…:
…the classic Colt M1911 .45 calibre with its seven round magazine, is legal, while this one…:
…the SIG P220 .45 with its eight-round magazine, is not.
Huh?
Beyond that? “Semi-automatic rifles with fixed magazines” holding more than seven rounds include…:
…Grampa’s M1 Garand from World War 2.
The WW2-era Swedish Ljungmann I used to own?
Ten-round semi-detachable magazine (you could detach them, but only for cleaning or clearing jams).
Or the SKS – a Russian design that’s become one of the most popular deer-hunting rifles in America?
Yep, it’s got the ten-round fixed magazine. It’s cheap (under $300 up until before the election) and ubiquitous – and, apparently, an “assault weapon” in Alice Hausman’s curious little world.
OK, so I know that this link is a bit off topic, but perhaps it explains why Hausman, Thissen, Dibble, Winkler and many other Dems are so illiterate.
http://homes.yahoo.com/news/america-s-most-and-least-literate-cities-224612878.html
Tommy Doodoo must be so proud!
Disregard the last post. I misread the article. UGH! Sorry!
Listening/ reading Ms. Hausman and her friends pontificate about firearms is as amusing as listening to a foreigner who barely speaks the language go on a profanity-laden rant in English. Or Governor Dayton explain the stadium bill.
The truth of the matter is that like meth and Wendy’s chili, firearms are not overly difficult to manufacture if the regular makre of the products is unavailable.
“Khyber Pass Copies” are a type of gun made in that region of Pakistan by tribesmen (tribespersons?) using very primitive methods – basically blacksmithing techniques, scrap metal, coal furnaces, bellows, and files.
Using an original master copy of a firearm, these craftspeople turn out functional versions of Webleys, Colt 1911s, and I’ve even seen a copy of a Luger pistol – perhaps one of the most technically precise pistols ever made (which also uses a detachable magazine holding eight rounds).
While the guns lack the refinement and durability of the originals, the ability to closely duplicate complex weapons using antiquated, low-tech methods, and turn out functional firearms is amazing. One tip-off to the origin of this type of gun is the imprecise copy of the words and lettering on the guns – backwards letters, misspellings, etc.
So if Ms. Hausman thinks that she’ll eliminate this style of weapon with one stroke of her (ghostwriter’s) pen, she is mistaken. However, I doubt if the buyers of these goods will undergo any type of regulatory processing.
Chief Garry McCarthy of the Chicago PD recently released a similar rant. Ms. Hausman is in good company.
Joe,
And the Khyber Pass copiers (I’ve seen photos of AKs and G3s, too) don’t have the Gestapo hunting them.
A few years ago I wrote about the ubiquity of the Sten Gun – Britain’s ultra-cheap submachine gun during WW2. Copies were manufactured in machine shops in Poland, Denmark, Norway, Yugoslavia…all over the place.
The fact that AK-47s are produced using stamped parts and not adhering to close tolerances is what makes them one of the most reliable field weapons in the world. They can go through a lot of abuse and without cleaning and/or other PM for months, even after hundreds of rounds are shot through them and they still fire.
From my point of view, the first thing that comes to mind is, where is the “crisis”? Over the last 20 years, the rate of violent crime has dropped to levels we haven’t seen since the mid sixties, and the total number of people killed with rifles runs to approximately 350 per year for the nation, plus crime rates are still dropping. All in all, it seems pretty obvious that this is a manufactured crisis. Besides the logic, or lack thereof for the proposed laws, we should also be pointing out the drop in crime that we should be rejoicing over.
Is it proper to ask questions like, “what problem does this solve” and “where is the research showing that the proposed solution has any bearing on the problem”?
This just in: In case anyone had any doubt about just how little the Democrat party *really* cares about solving our gang banger problem, or how much they really believe new restrictions will solve anything, may I present the Democrat reprobates of the Colorado legislature:
http://news.yahoo.com/colorado-lawmakers-move-forward-gun-control-measures-233724875.html
Colorado lawmakers move forward on new gun-control measures
“(And) a Colorado-based manufacturer of ammunition magazines threatened to leave Colorado if a ban on high-capacity magazines becomes law, taking some 600 jobs with them.
Democrats amended the magazine-limit bill to allow the company to continue to sell the magazines for out-of-state use, leading Waller to call the Democrats hypocritical.
“Democrats stood in the well of the House and recounted all the mass shootings nationwide, then put in the amendment that says the company can sell magazines in every other state, including those that had tragic shootings,” he said.”
As I keep saying, these people are scum.
I’d like to see the main DFL proponenets of gun control on a game show where the host holds up a rifle and asks ‘Banned or Not Banned’. I’d lay money that they would guess less than 50% correctly.
Hopefully, that company maintains their stance, because if their own employees can’t purchase products that they make, then all bets should be off!
You guys are delusional and don’t understand the gun debate raging in this country. If you watch network TV you see 20-30 homicides every night. By my math, that’s 108 million murders annually. That’s a lot. Writers in Hollywood would never fictionalize or make this stuff up for sheer entertainment value. We have a crisis on our hands. If you don’t believe me, watch TV!
Gotta say, I do love the Han Solo blaster. Classic.
Even though – Star Wars is for dorks, and Star Trek rules. Hee hee.
The tragic murder of the ten-year-old boy in Oakdale seems to have been kept suspiciously under the RADAR. That is probably good for the sake of his unfortunate family. However, those who prey on tragedy usually do so with little regard for anything or anyone but their misguided causes.
I wonder why? The circumstances are heartbreaking. I hope the child will be laid to rest without intrusion. Still, this seems uncharacteristically civil on the part of the media and for those who the media supports. May the child and his family find peace and his murderer adequately punished without exploitation or unwanted publicity.
One thing that would bring these mass murders down below their current vanishingly small percentage would be if the media would simply mention it once, no names or pictures, and then Shut Up. These guys want to go out in a blaze of glory. No glory, no gory, IMHO.
Of course the other thing that would stop them would be a well-placed 9mm round.
J. Ewing, I’ve proposed that the government and media not use the mass-shooter’s real name but simply start naming them in the same way they name hurricanes and tropical storms, using the alphabet. I also advocate making the names as non-threatening or harmless-sounding as possible. Hence:
A – Algernon
B – Biff
C – Chauncey
D – Dillweed
etc.
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