The Icecaps Might Or Might Not Be Melting…

…but the notion that there is “universal consensus” among scientists on  the subject is:

“There is a considerable presence within the scientific community of people who do not agree with the IPCC conclusion that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are very probably likely to be primarily responsible for global warming that has occurred since the Industrial Revolution.”

 Science is so complicated.

14 thoughts on “The Icecaps Might Or Might Not Be Melting…

  1. Even if there really is global warming, Jesus will fix it, right wingnutz?

  2. Naw, membership of the American Physical Society does not pass RickDFL’s peer-reviewed definiton of a scientist, so step down, do not let the “consensus” myth and lies stand in the way of truth and facts for goracle worshippers.

  3. No Clownie, Jesus caused it. It’s time for Minneapolis to become the new Miami! It’s our turn! (We promise to send all you New Yawkers our surplus hip waders. It’s the least we can do.)

  4. The APS is about as left wing an organization as you can find in science (I should know, I am still a member) so for them to announce doubt is quite an indictment. They must have actually talked to global warming scientists and looked at their methodology and had the same reaction I did upon meeting them. They may be right about AGW (anything is possible in science), but the science behind it is pretty junky.

  5. The climatologists, environmentalists, and biologists should have been more willing to split their grant money with the physicists. Then they’d have kept their yaps shut.

  6. I think it is time for Deniers and Alarmists to come together in a Grand Compromise, like this: We agree not to question the fact that the world is getting warmer, and they agree not to try to do anything about it. That should make everybody happy, right? If the earth gets warmer, we can water ski in February (over Boston), and they get to say “we told you so.” If it doesn’t get warmer, we can snow ski in February, just like always, and they can say “well, it will be warmer /next/ summer.”

  7. Alarmists? Guessing you mean the wingnut hordes on the subjects of GLOBAL TERRORISM!!! IMMIGRATION!!! FLUROIDE IN THE WATER SUPPLY!!!

  8. So, AC, which denial camp do you fall into?

    The Cult of the Carbon Believers, who deny just how much it will cost the country to implement carbon trading so as to delay by 3 months the temperature rise they might get if they implement Kyoto? When the same amount of money could ameliorate the effects of warming, provide everyone in the world safe drinking water, and eliminate malaria. Who deny reality by suggesting that we might be able to replace all electrical power in the country with solar and wind power in 10 years? Tell that to any power engineer and they’ll laugh in your face. (And if they do try to do solar and wind those of you in the Northeast are going to take it in the shorts in terms of cost.)

    Or are you in the Camp of the Unbelievers, who deny that climate scientists can find any trends and who scoff at their ability to make models that reasonably predict the future? Who note that even if the Carbon Cult is right, it’s still cheaper to fix the problems than prevent them?

    Frankly, any discipline that can go from “we’re all gonna freeze to death in 50 years” to “we’re all gonna roast to death in 50 years” in under 30 years needs to overcome a great deal of skepticism in my book, especially when their models are as bad as they are and with their extremely crude understanding of the overall mechanisms of climatology.

  9. ” CO2 emissions are very probably likely to be primarily responsible for global warming….”

    It’s a definite possible maybe. It’s tough to argue with definitive science terms such as “very probably likely”. CO2 emissions responsible for global warming? Huh, I dunno, could be; could I get another government grant for some more studies?…….

  10. Angryclown understands the true motivation for you dead-ender wingnut types when it comes to the global warming “debate”. You enjoy being assholes.

    Fair enough. Angryclown is no one to deny the simple pleasures to be derived from annoying people. So get in your Hummer with the “I Accelerate for Unicorns”, light up a cigar and drive around the University district counting the number of people who flip you the bird. But let’s not pretend you’re engaged in some big scientific controversy.

  11. Angryclown’s girl dropped “bumper sticker” from the above. She’s been sacked.

  12. angryclown said:

    “You enjoy being assholes”

    Funny stuff coming from angryclown. 😉

    “Angryclown is no one to deny the simple pleasures to be derived from annoying people”

    I would certainly hope not.

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