{"id":86289,"date":"2023-10-20T05:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-10-20T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=86289"},"modified":"2023-10-19T13:20:45","modified_gmt":"2023-10-19T18:20:45","slug":"someone-elses-shoes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=86289","title":{"rendered":"Someone Else&#8217;s Shoes"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Joe Doakes, formerly of Como Park, emails:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>The Minnesota Court of Appeals <a href=\"https:\/\/mncourts.gov\/mncourtsgov\/media\/Appellate\/Court%20of%20Appeals\/Standard%20opinions\/OPa221424-10162023.pdf\">issued an opinion which clarifies the duty to retreat in defense-of-others cases<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Let&#8217;s imagine a situation where Lilly is the Victim lying on the ground, Trevon is the Assailant kneeling astride Lilly beating her with a baseball bat, and Tom is the Rescuer, a lawfully armed citizen who sees the situation.&nbsp; Tom determines that Lilly is likely to suffer great bodily harm or death if Tom does not intervene using lethal force to stop Trevon&#8217;s attack.&nbsp; If Tom shoots Trevon, can Tom claim he acted in self-defense?&nbsp; In the past, we often heard that the Rescuer steps into the Victim&#8217;s shoes.&nbsp; If the Victim could use self-defense, the Rescuer could, too.&nbsp; But there was no case which clearly said so.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We know that in defense-of-self cases (if Trevon was attacking Tom), Tom must retreat if he can do so safely, before using lethal force.&nbsp; That&#8217;s not the situation here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The State was arguing that in defense-of-others cases, Tom as Rescuer must also retreat if he can do so safely, leaving Lilly, the Victim, to die.&nbsp; It&#8217;s more important to prevent a shooting than to save a life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Court of Appeals decided that was wrong.&nbsp; The duty to retreat is the duty of the VICTIM to retreat, not the duty of the RESCUER.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If Lilly could not safely retreat, then Tom might be justified in shooting Trevon to stop the deadly attack.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, Tom is taking a risk in doing so.&nbsp; The other rules of self-defense still apply.&nbsp; Lilly may have initiated the confrontation, Trevon may be using a bat to stop Lilly from stabbing him with a knife again, Tom is still stuck in Lilly&#8217;s shoes for those elements of the defense.&nbsp; But at least the leave-her-to-die argument has been laid to rest.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So that&#8217;s good news.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Joe Doakes, no longer in Como Park<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s about time. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joe Doakes, formerly of Como Park, emails: The Minnesota Court of Appeals issued an opinion which clarifies the duty to retreat in defense-of-others cases. Let&#8217;s imagine a situation where Lilly is the Victim lying on the ground, Trevon is the Assailant kneeling astride Lilly beating her with a baseball bat, and Tom is the Rescuer, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22],"tags":[265],"class_list":["post-86289","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-victim-disarmament","tag-self-defense"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/86289","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=86289"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/86289\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":86290,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/86289\/revisions\/86290"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=86289"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=86289"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=86289"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}