{"id":77951,"date":"2021-05-21T05:00:00","date_gmt":"2021-05-21T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=77951"},"modified":"2021-05-20T09:43:55","modified_gmt":"2021-05-20T14:43:55","slug":"alternate-awful-history","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=77951","title":{"rendered":"Alternate Awful History"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Joe Doakes from Como Park emails re an argument that has kept historians ripping each others hair out for seven decades:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.unz.com\/article\/barbarossa-suvorovs-revisionism-goes-mainstream\/\">Did Hitler save Europe<\/a>?\u00a0\u00a0<\/p><p>Yes, yes, Literally Hitler, embodiment of Evil, Holocaust, blah, blah, blah.\u00a0 But what if he had not broken the Molotov-Rippentrop Pact to invade Russia?\u00a0 Could Russia have conquered all of Europe?<\/p><p>Could the truth be less absolute and more nuanced than we&#8217;ve been led to believe?\u00a0\u00a0<\/p><p>Churchill told the House of Commons, &#8220;Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it,&#8221; a paraphrase of Santayana&#8217;s famous quote.\u00a0 But what is the correct lesson to learned from Operation Barbarossa?\u00a0<\/p><p>Joe Doakes<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>On the one hand, the USSR <em>had <\/em>built up an awful lot of troops on their western frontier. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On the other hand, even Stalin had to have known that the Soviet Army, in the wake of the purges, wasn&#8217;t in much shape even to defend the USSR (as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=16615\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"16615\"><em>Barbar<\/em>ossa<\/a> showed), much less conduct a coherent offensive (as the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=4414\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"4414\">Winter War<\/a> showed).   Even the most Stalin-indulgent history I&#8217;ve read so far indicates Stalin wasn&#8217;t entertaining the idea of invading the West until well into &#8217;42, if not later.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Note<\/strong>:  anyone in the comment section equating a serious discussion of the &#8220;what ifs&#8221; of the most consequential event of the past 200 years with pining for Naziism will be blocked.  Forever.  As in, you&#8217;ll be looking way, way up to see &#8220;Dog Gone&#8221;, status-wise. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There will be no more warnings.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joe Doakes from Como Park emails re an argument that has kept historians ripping each others hair out for seven decades: Did Hitler save Europe?\u00a0\u00a0 Yes, yes, Literally Hitler, embodiment of Evil, Holocaust, blah, blah, blah.\u00a0 But what if he had not broken the Molotov-Rippentrop Pact to invade Russia?\u00a0 Could Russia have conquered all of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[25],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-77951","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-history-and-its-making"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77951","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=77951"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77951\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":77955,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77951\/revisions\/77955"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=77951"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=77951"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=77951"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}