{"id":75252,"date":"2020-09-09T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-09-09T16:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=75252"},"modified":"2021-11-16T10:27:18","modified_gmt":"2021-11-16T16:27:18","slug":"statement-against-interest","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=75252","title":{"rendered":"Statement Against Interest"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>&#8220;Prog&#8221; columnist looks at the statute and the evidence, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chicagotribune.com\/columns\/eric-zorn\/ct-column-rittenhouse-kenosha-self-defense-zorn-20200903-susvsg45yndn7pb67l42ywnzn4-story.html?fbclid=IwAR0fpO1IbNxiOUTB_b9O3d_gt1GDMcrOXsjja-H5l6uOlHv6Pw_8-8S49iE\">concludes Kyle Rittenhouse will likely be acquitted<\/a>.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t disagree &#8211; and find that there&#8217;s ample grounds for caution for all the rest of us that take the Second Amendment seriously.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I homed in on these two passages:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>When [the first &#8220;victim&#8221;, Joseph] Rosenbaum, who was unarmed, finally cornered Rittenhouse, he grabbed for the teenager\u2019s gun. Multiple shots rang out, and Rosenbaum fell, mortally wounded.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Did Rittenhouse have a\u00a0<em>reasonable<\/em>\u00a0belief under the circumstances that if Rosenbaum got his gun he would suffer death or great bodily harm? Jurors in Wisconsin are\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/lawofselfdefense.com\/jury-instruction\/wi-wjic-825privilege-defense-of-others-force-less-than-that-likely-to-cause-death-or-great-bodily-harm\/\" target=\"_blank\">instructed\u00a0<\/a>that \u201creasonable\u201d means \u201cwhat a person of ordinary intelligence and prudence would have believed &#8230; under the circumstances that existed at the time.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And this bit here:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>A third victim, Gaige Grosskreutz, 26, of West Allis, Wisconsin, who survived, first held up his hands in a gesture of surrender at a distance of a few feet. In one of his hands, he held a gun. But when he \u201cmoved toward\u201d Rittenhouse, prosecutors said, Rittenhouse fired, striking him in the arm.<\/p><p>That final shooting \u201cwill be the most serious problem\u201d for Rittenhouse at trial, Kling said. \u201dThe guy did have a gun in his hand. But he wasn\u2019t pointing it at or threatening Rittenhouse.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>My first carry permit instructor, the last Joel Rosenberg, used to put it this way:   &#8220;You&#8217;ll be making a life-or-death decision in a split second, likely under incredible stress, in the dark, with incomplete information.  The prosector will have weeks and months in a warm, well-lit building, protected by metal detectors and deputies, to decide whether you were right&#8221;.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another of Joel&#8217;s sayings: &#8220;Shooting in self-defense is a choice between losing your life, and ruining it&#8221;.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Because while there&#8217;s a lot of rhetoric about deterring the madness, to say nothing of resisting it, it&#8217;s still incredibly risky, and under normal circumstances &#8211; and even some garden-variety extraordinary ones &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/guntalk.com\/news\/extras\/go-or-stay-kyle-rittenhouse-story?fbclid=IwAR3IBUFKxf3vewrSXMLYWHcREuNBesPdRXahRmAXM6x5-Uov2lgUqETcxAI\">best avoided<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Overwhelmingly I hear from the professionals that their plan for dealing with riots and mayhem is &#8220;Don&#8217;t be there.&#8221; Check the ego. Back away from the social media siren call to &#8220;be part of the solution.&#8221; Inserting yourself into a riot (AKA &#8220;war zone&#8221;) where we now know there are armed violent criminals (often felons) who are there with the expressed intent to do extreme violence to someone is, in my view, just foolish.<\/p><p>It&#8217;s said that good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement. I sure have found that to be true a lot of times. In flying, we say you have a skill bucket and a luck bucket. You hope to fill your skill bucket before using up everything in the luck bucket.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>For your consideration. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Prog&#8221; columnist looks at the statute and the evidence, concludes Kyle Rittenhouse will likely be acquitted. I don&#8217;t disagree &#8211; and find that there&#8217;s ample grounds for caution for all the rest of us that take the Second Amendment seriously. I homed in on these two passages: When [the first &#8220;victim&#8221;, Joseph] Rosenbaum, who was [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[419,377,1,22],"tags":[442,265],"class_list":["post-75252","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-2020-riots","category-the-second-civil-war","category-uncategorized","category-victim-disarmament","tag-rittenhouse","tag-self-defense"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75252","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=75252"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75252\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":75254,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75252\/revisions\/75254"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=75252"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=75252"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=75252"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}