{"id":69520,"date":"2018-12-18T11:00:59","date_gmt":"2018-12-18T17:00:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=69520"},"modified":"2019-02-08T06:17:59","modified_gmt":"2019-02-08T12:17:59","slug":"lie-first-lie-always-an-open-letter-to-the-reverend-nancy-nord-bence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=69520","title":{"rendered":"Lie First, Lie Always:  An Open Letter To The Reverend Nancy Nord Bence"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>To:\u00a0 \u00a0The Reverend Nancy Nord Bence<br \/>From:\u00a0 Mitch Berg, Irascible Peasant<br \/>Re:\u00a0 Think.\u00a0 Think\u00a0<em>Really Really\u00a0<\/em>Hard<\/p>\n<p>Rev.\u00a0 Nord Bence,<\/p>\n<p>Over the weekend, you posted this on &#8220;Protect&#8221; MN&#8217;s Facebook page:<\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/Nancy-Nord-Bence-Is-A-Stupid-Person-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-69521\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/Nancy-Nord-Bence-Is-A-Stupid-Person-1024x768.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/Nancy-Nord-Bence-Is-A-Stupid-Person-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/Nancy-Nord-Bence-Is-A-Stupid-Person-768x576.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/Nancy-Nord-Bence-Is-A-Stupid-Person-400x300.jpg 400w, http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/Nancy-Nord-Bence-Is-A-Stupid-Person.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n<p>Over the years, I&#8217;ve pointed out &#8211; with absolute accuracy &#8211; that you have never made a single statement about guns, gun owners, gun history, gun laws, the 2nd Amendment or gun crime that was simultaneously substantial, original and true.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the good news:\u00a0 \u00a0your claims above are substantial, and, er, &#8220;original&#8221;.\u00a0 But they are howlers.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>Run<\/strong> <strong>Awaaaaaaay<\/strong>:\u00a0 \u00a0First &#8211; you say &#8220;police in Minnesota can already use the Stand Your Ground defense&#8221;.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Well, yeah.\u00a0 That&#8217;s right.\u00a0 The police don&#8217;t have a &#8220;duty to retreat&#8221; when\u00a0<em>doing their jobs<\/em>.\u00a0 \u00a0Unlike civilians, they are supposed to run\u00a0<em>toward\u00a0<\/em>trouble.\u00a0 \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>They don&#8217;t have &#8220;Stand your Ground&#8221;.\u00a0 \u00a0They have &#8220;Qualified Immunity&#8221; &#8211; not only no obligation to try to retreat, but a mulligan for mistakes made in generally good faith in the line of duty.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: #000000; color: #ffffff;\"><strong>Question for you, &#8220;Reverend&#8221; Nord Bence:\u00a0 Would you prefer that police also be required to run away from criminals?\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Just curious.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>Shoot Off Your Unqualified Mouth First, As Questions Later:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Next comes the notion that self-defense reform would give citizens &#8220;the same right to shoot first and ask questions later&#8221; that cops &#8220;have&#8221;.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Nope.\u00a0 It merely means that citizens don&#8217;t have to convince a county attorney that they tried\u00a0<em>hard enough\u00a0<\/em>to run away from a threat (that was otherwise a reasonable threat of death or grave injury), provided you were anyplace you had a legal reason to be.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s it.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not a license to kill.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>And I suspect you know that &#8211; and are lying anyway, to logroll the gullible dolts who take you seriously.\u00a0 \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Either that or you are a deeply, deeply stupid person.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>My money says &#8220;both&#8221;.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>That is all.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To:\u00a0 \u00a0The Reverend Nancy Nord BenceFrom:\u00a0 Mitch Berg, Irascible PeasantRe:\u00a0 Think.\u00a0 Think\u00a0Really Really\u00a0Hard Rev.\u00a0 Nord Bence, Over the weekend, you posted this on &#8220;Protect&#8221; MN&#8217;s Facebook page: Over the years, I&#8217;ve pointed out &#8211; with absolute accuracy &#8211; that you have never made a single statement about guns, gun owners, gun history, gun laws, the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[340,22],"tags":[359],"class_list":["post-69520","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-lie-first","category-victim-disarmament","tag-rev-nancy-nord-bence"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69520","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=69520"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69520\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":69522,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69520\/revisions\/69522"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=69520"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=69520"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=69520"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}