{"id":62119,"date":"2017-02-13T05:00:05","date_gmt":"2017-02-13T11:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=62119"},"modified":"2017-02-11T20:05:15","modified_gmt":"2017-02-12T02:05:15","slug":"62119","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=62119","title":{"rendered":"Conundrum"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Joe Doakes from Como Park emails:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Should the United States military ever be used against United States citizens on American soil, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shtfplan.com\/headline-news\/army-preps-for-urban-warfare-in-megacities-mass-migration-disaster-and-inner-city-turmoil_02072017\"><span class=\"s2\">even to restore civil order<\/span><\/a>?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">We\u2019ve heard for years about plans to occupy cities, black helicopters, urban warfare, the Vigilant Guard 2010 drill, FEMA camps in the desert, and much more.\u00a0 Say it\u2019s all true \u2013 is it okay?\u00a0 Should we care?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">I suspect the Founders would have said \u201cNot just No, but Hell No.\u201d\u00a0 They were opposed to a standing army because they knew the politicians in charge of that army would be tempted to use it for political purposes.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">But there also are times when civil order breaks down and ordinary people cannot fend for themselves, when they expect government to step in to restore order.\u00a0 George Washington led troops to break the Whiskey Rebellion when the nation was only a few years old.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">Okay, but those were state militia, not regular federal troops, and states often call up the National Guard to restore order, so that\u2019s different. \u00a0Except the National Guard was federalized a while ago (that\u2019s why the Minnesota Red Bulls were in Iraq).\u00a0 So there\u2019s no meaningful difference between the part-time state militia and the regular standing army, when you\u2019re the one being disarmed and told to report to a federal holding area \u201cfor your own safety.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">Add to that, the courts have totally ignored the stated reason for the Second Amendment as articulated in the Federalist Papers \u2013 to resist a tyrannical government \u2013 and the fact that civilians are forbidden to bear arms comparable to those of the standing army whose tyranny we\u2019re supposed to resist, and it\u2019s beginning to look as if the Founders were right to be concerned.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">But I still want someone to help restore order, if we need it.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">It\u2019s a conundrum.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">Joe Doakes<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\">I&#8217;m a lot less worried about the military imposing tyranny (outside of epochal circumstances). \u00a0 Especially in re the classic 2nd Amendment red herring about &#8220;fighting tanks with AR15s&#8221;; the people who the feds will be trying to disarm will be the same class that are doing the dirty work &#8211; the children of rural and exurban blue-collar families of all races.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Federal law enforcement? \u00a0I&#8217;m a lot more concerned about them.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joe Doakes from Como Park emails: Should the United States military ever be used against United States citizens on American soil, even to restore civil order? We\u2019ve heard for years about plans to occupy cities, black helicopters, urban warfare, the Vigilant Guard 2010 drill, FEMA camps in the desert, and much more.\u00a0 Say it\u2019s all [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[51],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-62119","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liberal-tyranny"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62119","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=62119"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62119\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":62125,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62119\/revisions\/62125"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=62119"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=62119"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=62119"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}