{"id":39969,"date":"2013-11-21T12:10:15","date_gmt":"2013-11-21T18:10:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=39969"},"modified":"2014-11-19T17:29:50","modified_gmt":"2014-11-19T23:29:50","slug":"minneapolis-the-racket-wants-to-strike-back","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=39969","title":{"rendered":"Minneapolis: The Racket Wants To Strike Back"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Minneapolis has\u00a0<em>always\u00a0<\/em>wanted to roll back Minnesota&#8217;s &#8220;Pre-emption statute&#8221;, which prevents city governments from enacting gun laws different (especially more stringent) than state law.<\/p>\n<p>And they&#8217;ve been lobbying to change that as long as I&#8217;ve been aware of the issue &#8211; and that&#8217;s getting to be a long time, now.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Ron V&#8221; of the <em>Minnesotans for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms<\/em> blog notes that the City is not above lying through its teeth to try to do it. \u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.minnesota2a.com\/news-commentary\/exclusivedatapracticesrequestrevealsmpdliedinattempttoinfringe2ndamendmentrights#.UofzP3A-rnY.twitter\">Mr. V writes<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The (post Sandy Hook) Minneapolis City Council Legislative Agenda on Firearms recommendations were prepared by Melissa Lesch, Intergovernmental Relations Specialist, and WIFE OF REP. JOHN LESCH (66B DFL), who was one of the MN legislators leading the gun control charge in the Minnesota legislature post Sandy Hook.<\/p>\n<p>[Minneapolis Police Department assistant chief Matt] Clark testified before the city council at the request of Melissa Lesch\/IGR. Included in the recommendations from Melissa Lesch\/IGR was full support for Obama\u2019s extremist federal gun-grab agenda. The Legislative Agenda ultimately approved by the city council included:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;A plan to use the city\u2019s weight to lobby the state legislature for the repeal of the state pre-emption provision currently included in Minnesota\u2019s right-to-carry law (MN 624.714).<\/p>\n<p>Meaning, the city of Minneapolis wants to be able to override state law and set its own ordinances in regard to permit holders and gun owners who live in, travel through or visit the city of Minneapolis by implementing ordinances to:<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;-Require concealed carry and outlaw open carry by lawful permit holders within the city limits of Minneapolis;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;-Ban lawful carry from parks and public buildings within Minneapolis;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;-Ban common use semi-automatic firearms and standard capacity magazines within city limits;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;-Require that permit-to-carry applications be approved by local police chiefs (returning to arbitrary \u201cmay issue\u201d standards);<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;-Deny the 2nd Amendment rights of any person who has experienced a \u201cmental health incident that required the intervention of law enforcement\u201d or anyone who has ever been placed on a 72 hour hold;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;-Add additional regulations to the transfer of firearms;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;-And a number of other vaguely worded recommendations designed to allow infringement of 2nd Amendment rights<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Nothing new, there.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the rub; \u00a0Minneapolis is lying, via its police department, about the data it&#8217;s using to try to convince the legislature.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Here are the verbatim statements made by asst. chief Matt Clark during the testimony:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Bitstream Charter', serif; font-style: italic;\">&#8212;-\u201cWe\u2019ve had incidents where handgun owners have had handguns taken away from them. Where they have lost those firearms because somebody knew they had them on their person, and they specifically took it away from those individuals.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Bitstream Charter', serif; font-style: italic;\">&#8212;-\u201cWhat we\u2019re looking for\u2026 is that if you have a permit to carry a firearm that it [be] concealed in public. We have a lot of calls from constituents, individuals, residents, visitors that are very \u2018shocked and surprised\u2019 to see a handgun on somebody out in the open\u2026\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As to the latter? \u00a0In parts of this world, people are &#8220;shocked and surprised&#8221; to see same-sex couples, women without headscarves walking without male relatives, or Jews without Stars of David on their person. \u00a0We don&#8217;t dignify any of those, either.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s the former that Mr. V went after:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Following those statements by asst. chief Clark in January, I immediately made several attempts to contact asst. chief Clark and chief Harteau, as well as the MPD public information officer, to request the data upon which Clark\u2019s testimony was based&#8230;After multiple attempts over several months to get the information, I NEVER received a response from Clark or Harteau, and finally filed a Data Practices Request with the city of Minneapolis to get the information on which his testimony was based.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Mr. V requested the info and math behind the dates, places and case numbers of incidents where people openly carrying firearms had their guns stolen &#8211; and of course whether they were carry-permittees carrying legally at the time.<\/p>\n<p>And the result?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In total, the response to my Data Practices Request for the cases used as the basis for Clark\u2019s testimony to the city council includes 15 incidents between 2000 \u2013 2012 where a firearm was taken during a crime incident, NONE OF WHICH INCLUDE an incident where a firearm was taken from a lawful permit holder while open carrying in a public place. The 15 incidents they tried to palm off as citations for Clark\u2019s testimony include:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;Six (6) Robbery of dwelling (that\u2019s NOT a permit holder lawfully open carrying in public&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;Four (4) Car-jackings (that\u2019s NOT a permit holder lawfully open carrying in public&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;Two (2) Business robberies where a store gun was taken (that\u2019s NOT a permit holder lawfully open carrying in public&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;Two (2) Random street robberies where one female had a gun in her purse, and the other, which made the news last spring, was a guy randomly attacked who had a permit but his gun was concealed in his pocket &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;One (1) incident where a holstered firearm was taken from a victim IN HIS OWN YARD BY SOMEONE HE KNEW (that\u2019s NOT a permit holder lawfully open carrying in public&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If &#8220;ProtectMN&#8221; and its official minions couldn&#8217;t lie, they&#8217;d be silent.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Minneapolis has\u00a0always\u00a0wanted to roll back Minnesota&#8217;s &#8220;Pre-emption statute&#8221;, which prevents city governments from enacting gun laws different (especially more stringent) than state law. And they&#8217;ve been lobbying to change that as long as I&#8217;ve been aware of the issue &#8211; and that&#8217;s getting to be a long time, now. &#8220;Ron V&#8221; of the Minnesotans for [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,22],"tags":[274],"class_list":["post-39969","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-minneapolis","category-victim-disarmament","tag-protectmn"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39969","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=39969"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39969\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":49261,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39969\/revisions\/49261"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=39969"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=39969"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=39969"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}