{"id":34300,"date":"2013-02-14T07:31:26","date_gmt":"2013-02-14T13:31:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=34300"},"modified":"2014-02-20T16:58:37","modified_gmt":"2014-02-20T22:58:37","slug":"a-conversation-about-the-minimum-wage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=34300","title":{"rendered":"A Conversation About The Minimum Wage"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I had a chat with Avery LIBRELLE, a liberal friend of mine at a local coffee shop in Saint Paul; Avery had just gotten off from a shift of answering phones for MPR&#8217;s pledge drive.<\/p>\n<p>LIBRELLE: \u00a0I&#8217;m glad the DFL are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;ved=0CDgQqQIwAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.startribune.com%2Fpolitics%2Fstatelocal%2F191142241.html&amp;ei=6OEcUeqEDse6qgGsxIDwAg&amp;usg=AFQjCNHUrPfUOkBlG8tFCDFBkT7Z2zSTEg&amp;sig2=D_jejZGHU1fCgTYaGH7F8w&amp;bvm=bv.42452523,d.aWM\">talking about raising the minimum wage<\/a>. \u00a0It&#8217;s time the working poor caught a break.<\/p>\n<p>ME: Well, that&#8217;s kind of untrue. \u00a0Most of &#8220;the working poor&#8221; work for more than whatever the minimum is. \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bls.gov\/cps\/minwage2011.htm\">The vast majority of people earning the minimum wage are young, entry-level workers<\/a>. \u00a0Very few people over the age of 16 actually make the minimum wage &#8211; and those over 25 that do usually do it because of choices, good or bad or indifferent, that either they or their parents made.<\/p>\n<p>LIBRELLE: \u00a0Well, it&#8217;ll be good for them, too. \u00a0More money is good, right? \u00a0It stimulates consumer spending when workers have more money!<\/p>\n<p>ME: \u00a0 Well, yeah, but where does that &#8220;more money&#8221; come from?<\/p>\n<p>LIBRELLE: \u00a0Employers!<\/p>\n<p>ME: \u00a0And&#8230;?<\/p>\n<p>LIBRELLE: \u00a0They&#8217;ll pay more!<\/p>\n<p>ME: \u00a0Er&#8230;why?<\/p>\n<p>LIBRELLE: \u00a0Because the law will say so!<\/p>\n<p>ME: \u00a0Um&#8230;no, they won&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>LIBRELLE: \u00a0Sure they will. \u00a0$9.50 is more than $7.25!<\/p>\n<p>ME: \u00a0 Well, yeah &#8211; any minimum-wage worker will get more money per hour. \u00a0But it doesn&#8217;t mean their employers will spend more, especially in a tough economy.<\/p>\n<p>LIBRELLE: \u00a0 Well, that&#8217;s Bush&#8217;s fault.<\/p>\n<p>ME: \u00a0 Be that as it may, look at it this way. \u00a0Let&#8217;s say a store owner has $100 an hour to spend on payroll at her small business. \u00a0That&#8217;s her labor budget; it&#8217;s what she can afford to spend, given the revenues she brings in, on labor, on top of materials, rent, utilities and a modest wage for herself &#8211; and just to keep from going crazy, I won&#8217;t add in all the service taxes she&#8217;ll be paying under Governor <del>Messinger&#8217;s<\/del> Dayton&#8217;s tax proposal. \u00a0Currently, that allows her to employ about 14 people at minimum wage. \u00a0 If the minimum wage goes up to $9.50, that means she can employ ten people.<\/p>\n<p>And that&#8217;s not even counting the changes to the payroll tax, which bring it down to more like nine. \u00a0And that&#8217;s leaving out healthcare. \u00a0So &#8211; nine employees get a raise, and five get laid off. \u00a0Meaning the nine who are left are going to have to work a whole lot harder.<\/p>\n<p>LIBRELLE: \u00a0 The employer can just budget more for labor!<\/p>\n<p>ME: \u00a0Yeah, there&#8217;s not actually room in her budget to increase her labor costs by close to 50%. \u00a0Not unless her business&#8217; revenues zoom upward which, by the way, isn&#8217;t happening these days.<\/p>\n<p>LIBRELLE: \u00a0She can take it out of her salary!<\/p>\n<p>ME: \u00a0Did you catch the part about her having a &#8220;very modest&#8221; salary after all her expenses? \u00a0If she tacks $40 an hour onto her labor costs, she&#8217;ll be working for free &#8211; which is less than the minimum wage. \u00a0She may as well close the business, then &#8211; which means instead of laying off five, she&#8217;ll be putting all 14 out of work.<\/p>\n<p>LIBRELLE: \u00a0Maybe the workers should\u00a0<em>unionize!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>ME: \u00a0And that&#8217;ll increase revenues how?<\/p>\n<p>LIBRELLE: \u00a0Why do you hate children?<\/p>\n<p>(And SCENE)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I had a chat with Avery LIBRELLE, a liberal friend of mine at a local coffee shop in Saint Paul; Avery had just gotten off from a shift of answering phones for MPR&#8217;s pledge drive. 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