{"id":30119,"date":"2012-09-06T07:00:51","date_gmt":"2012-09-06T12:00:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=30119"},"modified":"2020-12-21T05:30:03","modified_gmt":"2020-12-21T11:30:03","slug":"so-what-does-it-take-to-get-on-poligraph","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=30119","title":{"rendered":"Facts In The Dark, Part III:  &#8220;Poligraph&#8221; And Selection Bias"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>For years, now, I&#8217;ve had questions about how politicians&#8217; statements get selected for MPR&#8217;s &#8220;Poligraph&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?attachment_id=30140\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30140\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" title=\"Facts-Header\" src=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Facts-Header.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you Google the feature, one might be forgiven for thinking the feature should be named &#8220;MPR&#8217;s Michele Bachmann Bureau&#8221;. \u00a0That&#8217;d be unfair; Poligraph reporter Catherine Richert does spread some of the fact-checking love around among parties.<\/p>\n<p>But I do seriously wonder what a pol has to do to get a statement picked up by Poligraph.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Huge Gaping Factual Hole, Ready For Occupancy<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>For example, I&#8217;ve wondered for years why Richert&#8217;s crew have never once checked up on Heather Martens, who has yet to speak her first significant truthful thing about the gun control issue. \u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?tag=heather-martenshttp:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?tag=heather-martens\">This blog has spent years shredding everything Martens has ever said on the public stage<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a big issue to me, naturally. \u00a0If I were a <em>real <\/em>cynic, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s because MPR has invested some of its own credibility in Martens, airing an <a href=\"http:\/\/minnesota.publicradio.org\/display\/web\/2011\/04\/27\/martens\/\">op-ed<\/a> of hers in which every <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=19611\">single one of her fifteen factual assertions &#8211; every one &#8211; was untrue<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But Martens isn&#8217;t an elected official? \u00a0Okie-Dokey &#8211; Dakota County Attorney Jim Backstrom is an elected official, and every <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?tag=backstrom\">single word he wrote about last years&#8217; &#8220;Stand Your Ground&#8221; bill over the past four years<\/a> was a lie. \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=2254\">Every single word<\/a>. \u00a0 And he&#8217;s elected, ya? \u00a0 And both of them had Governor Dayton&#8217;s ear last session, when he vetoed the &#8220;Stand Your Ground&#8221; bill, which had passed with a bipartisan majority in the legislature.<\/p>\n<p>Is it because MPR&#8217;s target demo doesn&#8217;t care about the issue? \u00a0I could almost understand it if that were the rationale. \u00a0But I don&#8217;t suspect a news organization would get behind that as an official alibi, do you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Checking The Facts<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So I wrote Richert over the weekend. \u00a0She emailed me back bright and early Tuesday morning. \u00a0Since I didn&#8217;t specify anything would be on the record (it was late), I&#8217;ll paraphrase; she referred me to the &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/minnesota.publicradio.org\/display\/web\/2010\/05\/19\/about-poligraph\/\">About Poligraph<\/a>&#8221; page, and noted the feature&#8217;s ground rules involve picking one statement from each party, each week (or, at times, two from one party one week, and two from the other the next).<\/p>\n<p>The &#8220;About&#8221; page also notes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>PoliGraph puts the findings into short, clear explanations accompanied with a rating &#8212; accurate, misleading, false or inconclusive.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Accurate: These claims are entirely or mostly true. They include important details and are supported by the facts.<\/p>\n<p>-Misleading: These statements that leave out key information, are exaggerated, or have been taken out of context.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; False: These claims are not true or misleading to the point of being false.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Inconclusive: This rating typically applies to projections or estimates. While such claims could be true under certain circumstances, more information is needed.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, that explains a few things, anyway.<\/p>\n<p>One might hope that this next bit, however&#8230;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If this reminds you of PolitiFact.com, the Pultizer Prize-winning from the St. Petersburg Times, you&#8217;d be right. We know good ideas when we see them.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8230;does not. \u00a0The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=2&amp;cad=rja&amp;ved=0CC8QFjAB&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politifactbias.com%2F&amp;ei=yYtHUPvvEeqU2wWis4H4Aw&amp;usg=AFQjCNFgAriraQQV4TrkOeMoBSrSiFaglQ&amp;sig2=jrpjcZD7tf3xO5g_SuazTg\">political bias of Politifact<\/a> (and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=9&amp;cad=rja&amp;ved=0CGkQFjAI&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fgopbriefingroom.com%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D71358.0&amp;ei=rIxHUPC_FKKo2wXa54GYBg&amp;usg=AFQjCNFTw8-apZHJVhCaBDVVugN7yA3P7A&amp;sig2=EUk6RhfQ6yZCM24rdqF9FA\">those of the Pulitzer committee<\/a>, as well) are a matter worth discussion; if those are &#8220;good ideas&#8221;, MPR News may see it; I do not.<\/p>\n<p>More about the &#8220;Fact-checking&#8221; industry tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway &#8211; that brings us to my question from last Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Selection Bias?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, we <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=30116\">looked briefly<\/a> at &#8220;Poligraph&#8221;&#8216;s take on an Amy Klobuchar claim to bipartisanship during her debate with Kurt Bills. \u00a0 \u00a0While Klobuchar&#8217;s statement was accurate as far as it went &#8211; the numbers literally supported the exact letter by letter intent of the Senator&#8217;s statement &#8211; Richert&#8217;s &#8220;fact check&#8221; focused to exclusion on the numbers, while ignoring the larger context Klobuchar&#8217;s statement seems to have been meant to hide. \u00a0This earned &#8220;Poligraph&#8221; a rating of &#8220;Cherry-PIcked&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That was their weekly &#8220;Democrat&#8221; fact-check.<\/p>\n<p>But today&#8217;s installment will go back to this past Tuesday&#8217;s installment, in which Poligraph hit its self-imposed weekly &#8220;GOP&#8221; quota. \u00a0There,<a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=30065\"> we looked at the &#8220;Poligraph&#8221; &#8220;fact-check&#8221; of a Tony Hernandez statement<\/a> linking the bank bailouts to the unemployment rate. \u00a0While Tony oversimplified the issue, there is considerable debate about the\u00a0question, and Richert herself focused excessively on refuting Hernandez&#8217; words and ignored the broader context of the remark. \u00a0\u00a0Calling\u00a0Hernandez&#8217; statement &#8220;Misleading&#8221; rather than &#8220;Oversimplified&#8221; earned &#8220;Poligraph&#8221; a rating of &#8220;Obtuse&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>But I wondered: \u00a0if &#8220;Poligraph&#8217;s&#8221; quota is one article per party per week, why pick the fairly innocuous Klobuchar quote about her record of co-sponsored bills? \u00a0The claim was almost as innocuous as the Senator herself (although it covered, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=30116\">I maintain<\/a>, a much more important context).<\/p>\n<p>But let&#8217;s go back to another moment from the State Fair debate.<\/p>\n<p>Check out this segment from the Hernandez-McCollum debate:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XVzsWgf92N4\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>(Video courtesy <a href=\"http:\/\/mncd4conservative.blogspot.com\/\"><em>MN CD4 Conservatives<\/em><\/a> blog)<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the money quote from Rep. McCollum:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Ryan Budget does nothing to move this country forward. \u00a0It only protected tax cuts for the wealthy&#8230;[when presented with a putative Democrat budget proposal]&#8230;the Republicans said &#8220;No, if we can&#8217;t have tax cuts for the upper 1%&#8221;, which by the way is borrowed money from China, that we couldn&#8217;t have the middle-class tax cuts!&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is an unvarnished lie. \u00a0The GOP and Ryan&#8217;s plan have been all about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/corner\/293949\/new-ryan-budget-yuval-levin\">tax cuts across the board all along, combined with broadening the tax base<\/a> so that a broader share of the people are actually paying <em>something<\/em>. \u00a0The Democrats want to use &#8220;tax cuts&#8221; as a class-warfare-baiting wedge, and seek to jack up taxes on the &#8220;wealthy&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>This McCollum statement was devoid of fact. \u00a0It contains an absolute absence of truth. \u00a0There is no validity to it in any way shape or form.<\/p>\n<p>And yet it passed, while Richert spent a solid day or two vetting Hernandez&#8217; off the cuff oversimplification about the bailout, and giving Amy Klobuchar&#8217;s blandishment about her &#8220;bipartisanship&#8221; a pass.<\/p>\n<p>Why was that?<\/p>\n<p>So I&#8217;ll give Poligraph a &#8220;Huh?&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?attachment_id=30133\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30133\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-30133\" title=\"Facts-Huh\" src=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Facts-Huh.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Facts-Huh.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Facts-Huh-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s another one: \u00a0:<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"425\" height=\"344\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/swf.tubechop.com\/tubechop.swf?vurl=XVzsWgf92N4&amp;start=491.38&amp;end=552.26&amp;cid=513295\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"425\" height=\"344\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"http:\/\/swf.tubechop.com\/tubechop.swf?vurl=XVzsWgf92N4&amp;start=491.38&amp;end=552.26&amp;cid=513295\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<p>She says there&#8217;s lots of &#8220;Federal Highway Money&#8221; involved in the new St. Croix bridge project. \u00a0But there&#8217;s actually fairly little direct federal funding involved; it&#8217;s a lot more complex than that.<\/p>\n<p>Now &#8211; the standard set with Tony&#8217;s oversimplification we looked at Tuesday was that, according to &#8220;Poligraph&#8221;, &#8220;too complex to put exactly that way&#8221; is &#8220;Misleading&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>So what is this?<\/p>\n<p>We give Poligraph a rating of &#8220;Double Standard&#8221; for this one.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?attachment_id=30150\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30150\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-30150 alignnone\" title=\"Facts-DoubleStandard\" src=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Facts-DoubleStandard.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Facts-DoubleStandard.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Facts-DoubleStandard-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The question is, why does &#8220;Poligraph&#8221; pick the statements they pick?<\/p>\n<p>More tomorrow.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For years, now, I&#8217;ve had questions about how politicians&#8217; statements get selected for MPR&#8217;s &#8220;Poligraph&#8221;. If you Google the feature, one might be forgiven for thinking the feature should be named &#8220;MPR&#8217;s Michele Bachmann Bureau&#8221;. \u00a0That&#8217;d be unfair; Poligraph reporter Catherine Richert does spread some of the fact-checking love around among parties. 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