{"id":2499,"date":"2008-04-30T12:27:25","date_gmt":"2008-04-30T17:27:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=2499"},"modified":"2008-05-01T01:25:08","modified_gmt":"2008-05-01T06:25:08","slug":"faith-in-faith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=2499","title":{"rendered":"Faith in Faith"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Background follows.<\/p>\n<p>Back in college, two of my professors, a husband and wife team that taught Math and English, respectively, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rickross.com\/reference\/foc\/foc6.html\">went through a flash of tragic fame<\/a>.  The Swans had been Christian Scientists, and as their son fell ill with meningitis.<\/p>\n<p>They followed their faith &#8211; and the boy died.  The Swans left the church (although they apparently kept their faith in a broader sense), and have spent a few decades lobbying to change state laws that protect parents whose religious practices lead to their childrens&#8217; deaths.  It&#8217;s an issue fraught with emotion on both sides&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;and one I stay happily out of.  I&#8217;m a Christian who sees no rational reason to find conflict between an allegorical reading of the Old Testament and science.  There is no battle between &#8220;creationism&#8221;\/intelligent design and evolution.  It&#8217;s pretty simple.<\/p>\n<p>And I regard zealots on both sides &#8211; the snake-handlers along with the fevered, bigoted caricatures that Big Atheism sends forth to do battle in the media &#8211; with suspicion and a little bit of sorrow.<\/p>\n<p>Fast forward to today, and <a href=\"http:\/\/anti-strib.blogspot.com\/2008\/04\/science-vs-prayer-science-wins.html\">the dumbest post that&#8217;s ever appeared on <em>Anti-Strib<\/em> that wasn&#8217;t written by Ed Salden<\/a>.  It&#8217;s written by a fellow named Jeff, who must have gotten video of Tracy Eberly doing something <em>really <\/em>awful to get included in the <em>Anti-Strib<\/em> stable of writers in the first place.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, part of the problem becomes clear at the conclusion:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>(via <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/pharyngula\/2008\/04\/can_we_please_just_establish_t.php\">Pharyngula<\/a>.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>P.Z. Meiers is to religion as David Duke is to black people.<\/p>\n<p>Onward to be beginning:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Just when you think that prayer <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.jsonline.com\/story\/index.aspx?id=744614\">can&#8217;t do any harm<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Even as her 11-year-old daughter lay dying on a mattress on the floor of the family dining room on Easter Sunday, Leilani Neumann never wavered in her belief in the power of prayer.<br \/>\n&#8220;We just thought it was a spiritual attack and we prayed for her,&#8221; Neumann said, according to a police report. &#8220;My husband, Dale, was crying and mentioned taking Kara to the doctor, and I said the Lord&#8217;s going to heal her and we continued to pray.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Prayer didn&#8217;t save Madeline Kara Neumann, who died of untreated diabetes March 23.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>No, it didn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>Neither, &#8220;John&#8217;s&#8221; claims notwithstanding, did it &#8220;do harm&#8221;.  A couple of parents with a view of God and faith that is, to say the least, on the far fringe of orthodoxy, did.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>So what&#8217;s my point? I&#8217;ve often accused faith of having no accountability, and this is exactly what I mean.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, good for you!<\/p>\n<p>Except that for people of faith, accountability is a constant thing.  Yes, accountability to God is a pretty powerful force, and if people see that accountability differently than you do (see also: female circumcision, <em>suttee<\/em>, substituting prayer for medicine, faith-healing, whatever) it can seem anything from &#8220;weird&#8221; to &#8220;barbaric&#8221; to &#8220;just plain wrong&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>And that accountability is why <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hoover.org\/publications\/policyreview\/3447051.html\">Christians devote 25% more<\/a> &#8211; of their own free will, rather than via government coercion &#8211; to charity than do secularists, and are <a href=\"http:\/\/oproject.wordpress.com\/2007\/06\/13\/american-atheists-appear-to-be-less-likely-to-vote-and-volunteer-and-give-less-to-charity\/\">more likely to vote and volunteer for civic causes<\/a> than atheists.<\/p>\n<p>At any rate, &#8220;Jeff&#8221; seems to have missed (or never really understood) the Christian injunction to &#8220;render unto Caesar what is Caesar&#8217;s&#8221;.  Understandable, perhaps &#8211; liberals think means nothing more than &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.captainsquartersblog.com\/mt\/archives\/011207.php\">be happy to pay for a better <strike>Galilee<\/strike> Minnesota<\/a>&#8220;.  It actually means that Christians need to recognize civil authority (although the Protestant Reformation added the rather important bit about &#8220;evil governments are bad&#8221;).  So there&#8217;s nothing &#8220;unnaccountable about faith&#8221;; there are merely people of faith who, through over-narrow interpretation or over-broad religious hubris, make the wrong choices.<\/p>\n<p>And this wrong choice, like the Swans&#8217; a couple decades back, ended in tragedy.  Life happens.  You live and &#8211; like the Swans &#8211; you learn, or at least, like the couple from Wisconsin, get some nasty consequences.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I might add that science &#8211; which is often delegated to merely another religion around these parts<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s right, &#8220;Jeff&#8221;, which is why we have the North Memorial Snake Handling Auditorium, Regions Prayer Center, and the University of Minnesota Faith Healing Center, and why you can&#8217;t find a doctor on any regional golf courses.<\/p>\n<p>Bad choices &#8211; whether driven by a fringe-y view of faith or its mirror image, the belief that ones&#8217; self is the only intelligence that really matters &#8211; are the problem.<\/p>\n<p>That, and Tracy Eberly&#8217;s lax HR standards, apparently.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Background follows. Back in college, two of my professors, a husband and wife team that taught Math and English, respectively, went through a flash of tragic fame. The Swans had been Christian Scientists, and as their son fell ill with meningitis. They followed their faith &#8211; and the boy died. 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