{"id":23566,"date":"2011-10-14T13:36:29","date_gmt":"2011-10-14T18:36:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=23566"},"modified":"2012-01-04T17:26:36","modified_gmt":"2012-01-04T23:26:36","slug":"real","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=23566","title":{"rendered":"Real"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Let&#8217;s be clear about this: I do appreciate the leftybloggers and lefty pundits in the Twin Cities that <em>can <\/em>have a civilized debate for more than one round without diving straight into the name-calling. \u00a0They are rare, but given the number of &#8220;progressives&#8221; in the Twin Cities, there are still plenty of them.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s not just smack-talk. \u00a0I grew up in a liberal household, I was a liberal til my early twenties, and my parents still are (although all three of us Berg kids did in fact see the light), so I have no interest in demonizing or pointlessly antagonizing liberals; I have to visit them over Christmas, for crying out loud.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, I get along with Jeff Rosenberg just fine. \u00a0He&#8217;s a good guy. \u00a0Wrong about most things, but then so&#8217;s my Mom, and we get along too.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, <a href=\"http:\/\/mnpublius.com\/post\/11393067894\/chart-real-fake-minnesotans\">Jeff bit on that most classic bit of inter-party smack talk<\/a>, &#8220;The Real American&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>According to Sarah Palin during the 2008 presidential campaign, I\u2019m not a \u201cReal American,\u201d because I live in a city.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That one seems to bug a lot of libs. \u00a0Which, to be fair, is what it was intended to do. \u00a0It&#8217;s &#8220;smack talk&#8221;; sorta like saying &#8220;your momma&#8217;s so fat, they can&#8217;t even find the search party they sent down her butt crack to find the missing airplane&#8221;; it doesn&#8217;t really mean that anyone&#8217;s missing, or that any of that could fit between &#8220;your momma&#8217;s&#8221; buttcheeks, or even that any of us have met your mother.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s just supposed to get you too angry to think about your game. \u00a0It gets me &#8211; the smack-talker &#8211; into your head. \u00a0It puts me in control.<\/p>\n<p>And it worked!<\/p>\n<p>Now, it <em>is <\/em>a fact that America&#8217;s urban areas tend to vote Democrat. \u00a0And it is a further fact that Democrats, while often proclaiming the depth of their patriotism, also have a really hard time with the idea of American exceptionalism; patriotism in a red county may be chock full of God Bless America and the Troops and &#8220;Shining City On A Hill&#8221;, while in a Blue county it is frequently more a matter of &#8220;We&#8217;re a lot less unlike France than we used to be, and with 12 more years of Obama and Dayton, we&#8217;ll get <em>even better<\/em>&#8220;, and yes, I know I&#8217;m simplifying things, but work with me here.<\/p>\n<p>So it is a logical deduction that an urban American is less likely to believe that America is anything special.<\/p>\n<p>Rosenberg:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Apparently, Palin isn\u2019t the only one who feels that way. Minnesota Supreme Court Chief Justice Lori Gildea feels similarly: I\u2019m also not a \u201cReal Minnesotan.\u201d At least, that\u2019s what she told an audience in Brainerd:<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Jeff quotes a <em><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.citypages.com\/blotter\/2011\/10\/lori_gildea_real_minnesota_twin_cities_brainerd.php\">City Pages<\/a> <\/em>piece:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cI\u2019m so happy to be in real Minnesota,\u201d Gildea said.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, well, maybe Gildea was just coming down from an acid trip, and couldn\u2019t tell if she\u2019d actually been in the state of her birth. Let\u2019s give her a chance to explain.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOutside of the Twin Cities,\u201d Gildea clarified.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Darn those SCOM justices and their smack talk! \u00a0Now, we&#8217;re going to have 50,000 leftybloggers&#8217; undies in a bunch!<\/p>\n<p>And Rosenberg must be wearing boxers, because the bunch is obviously painful:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Got that, everyone? The only \u201creal\u201d Minnesotans are the ones who live outside of the Twin Cities, the place where most Minnesotans live. That made me wonder: Just what percentage of Minnesotans are real?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Warning: \u00a0A Democrat is about to attempt to work with empirical, geographical and demographic data. \u00a0This could get ugly.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>That\u2019s why I\u2019ve put together a handy chart to give you an idea of how it breaks down. The chart uses the smallest possible definition of the Twin Cities, the seven-county area.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Here&#8217;s Jeff&#8217;s chart, for starters:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/media.tumblr.com\/tumblr_lt05b9oDYF1qcubj9.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"257\" height=\"260\" \/><\/p>\n<p>And can we get all you good Lakeville and Maple Grove &#8220;Real Minnesotans&#8221; to sound off here? \u00a0<em>That&#8217;s not the smallest possible definition of the Twin Cities<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>That would be, er, the Twin Cities; 667,646 people according to the 2010 census, between Minneapolis and Saint Paul.<\/p>\n<p>So an <em>accurate <\/em>chart looks a little more like this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?attachment_id=23567\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-23567\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-23567\" title=\"RealMN\" src=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/RealMN.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"481\" height=\"289\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/RealMN.png 481w, http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/RealMN-300x180.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 481px) 100vw, 481px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I wasn\u2019t sure if the exurbs were real; Gildea hasn\u2019t yet clarified how many acres of land you must own to be a real Minnesotan.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>All right. \u00a0Time for a cleansing breath, everyone.<\/p>\n<p>(Whooosh).<\/p>\n<p>OK. \u00a0If you&#8217;re going to get all knotted up over other peoples&#8217; smack-talk, then the game is no fun.<\/p>\n<p>Still, speaking on behalf of all conservatives, I&#8217;ll work with y&#8217;all on this. \u00a0Tell your buddies in the SEIU, MAPE, AFSCME, the MFT and the Teamsters to stop calling themselves &#8220;labor&#8221;, or at least &#8220;workers&#8221;. \u00a0I&#8217;m not in a union (anymore), but I most definitely work. \u00a0Indeed, <del>among &#8220;real workers&#8221;<\/del> in the private sector, 91% of us &#8220;workers&#8221; apparently aren&#8217;t &#8220;workers&#8221; according to &#8220;labor&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>As long as you wanna be all literal and all which, I stress, I don&#8217;t. \u00a0Not really.<\/p>\n<p>That is all.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Let&#8217;s be clear about this: I do appreciate the leftybloggers and lefty pundits in the Twin Cities that can have a civilized debate for more than one round without diving straight into the name-calling. \u00a0They are rare, but given the number of &#8220;progressives&#8221; in the Twin Cities, there are still plenty of them. 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