{"id":20190,"date":"2011-05-23T06:00:10","date_gmt":"2011-05-23T12:00:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=20190"},"modified":"2012-04-08T11:02:35","modified_gmt":"2012-04-08T16:02:35","slug":"chanting-points-memo-its-about-rights","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=20190","title":{"rendered":"Chanting Points Memo: &#8220;It&#8217;s About Rights&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As I&#8217;ve pointed out in the past, I&#8217;m deeply ambivalent about pretty much everything in the Gay Marriage mix; gay marriage itself, sure, but straight marriage too, and amending the constitution to protect it as well.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?cat=108\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/farm5.static.flickr.com\/4017\/4575208799_e7c6e34c94.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"252\" height=\"192\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, if you were at the Capitol, you saw a Madison-like outpouring of support for gay rights and opposition to the Amendment. \u00a0And by &#8220;Madison-like&#8221;, I mean &#8220;largely Metrocratic&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>But while I&#8217;m ambivalent about gay marriage (I support civil unions, but don&#8217;t plan on ever getting a government marriage license, even if I <em>do <\/em>get married ever again), I think there is one uncontrovertible fact; the DFL&#8217;s motivations in opposing the Amendment were purely, and just a tad cynically, political.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Call From Pauline Kael<\/strong>: \u00a0The left&#8217;s approach on gay marriage, thus far, has been to get it instituted by fiat, either by politicians (former San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsome) or the courts. \u00a0It&#8217;s a fact that gay marriage has <em>never <\/em>passed a public referendum, not even in &#8220;progressive&#8221; cesspools like Oregan.<\/p>\n<p>But there are polls that indicate that people are changing their tune; that people actually support gay marriage.<\/p>\n<p>So is the landscape changing? \u00a0It depends on the polls you believe, of course; I&#8217;ve seen surveys of likely voters \u00a0that indicate most Minnesotans oppose it; there are others, of course. \u00a0We&#8217;ll see &#8211; in November, 2012. \u00a0I strongly suspect most people <em>do<\/em>, in fact, oppose gay marriage because&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>What Happened In 2009?<\/strong> Last night, during the Madison-like surge of lefty outrage on Twitter, a &#8220;progressive&#8221; sniffed at me:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Sir- the agenda is Rights. DFL Benson: My conscious comes first, my constituents second, and my desire to be reelected, third.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Which makes a good chanting point. \u00a0But it doesn&#8217;t stand up to history.<\/p>\n<p>Four years ago,the DFL took control of the government in Saint Paul. \u00a0Two years ago, the DFL had\u00a0<em>absolute <\/em>control of Minnesota government, except for Governor Pawlenty.\u00a0\u00a0Had they wanted to push a gay marriage law, they could have. \u00a0It would have been vetoed &#8211; but they&#8217;d have made their moral case to take to the voters.<\/p>\n<p>And don&#8217;t forget that they <em>could <\/em>have \u00a0passed a constitutional amendment, as the GOP just did, and bypassed the Governor completely.<\/p>\n<p>And yet they dawdled for four years, and made <em>no <\/em>significant effort toward Gay Marriage. \u00a0None. Zero.<\/p>\n<p>If the DFL&#8217;s stance were &#8220;about civil rights&#8221;, about immutable libertarian principles, as Rep. Benson grandiloquently claimed, they&#8217;d have used their absolute majority to do <em>something<\/em>,<\/p>\n<p>Contrast that to the GOP, which introduced the Constitutional Amendment immediately.<\/p>\n<p>Leaving aside whether it&#8217;s good to vote on civil rights <em>or <\/em>whether Gay Marriage is a civil right, here&#8217;s a question: which is the stance of a party that believes that they are going to win a referendum?<\/p>\n<p>I suspect the DFL ignored gay marriage (and their gay supporters) for four years because they knew the votes weren&#8217;t there throughout Minnesota; that if they voted <em>for <\/em>legislation pushing gay marriage, they&#8217;d get shredded statewide. \u00a0 They&#8217;d be kissing any outstate seats goodbye; they&#8217;d shave some of their majority in the Arrowhead <em>and <\/em>in the Twin Cities; few people oppose Gay Marriage less than Afro-Americans and Latinos; they might even jeopardize Tim Walz&#8217; seat.<\/p>\n<p>My thesis &#8211; this was never about principles, about liberty, about fairness for gays. \u00a0This is about votes. \u00a0The DFL believes they&#8217;ll lose them &#8211; lots of them.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As I&#8217;ve pointed out in the past, I&#8217;m deeply ambivalent about pretty much everything in the Gay Marriage mix; gay marriage itself, sure, but straight marriage too, and amending the constitution to protect it as well. 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