{"id":1774,"date":"2007-12-12T09:16:11","date_gmt":"2007-12-12T14:16:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=1774"},"modified":"2020-12-21T05:35:06","modified_gmt":"2020-12-21T11:35:06","slug":"northsoak","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=1774","title":{"rendered":"Northsoak"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I support mass transit options that can be teased into <em>some <\/em>kind of economic sense.<\/p>\n<p>Which means I oppose almost all of them.\u00a0 In almost all cases, mass transit is like big box schools; they serve their main purpose badly, but they <em>are <\/em>superb monuments to the governments that built them.<br \/>\nNow, the Metro&#8217;s two big &#8220;commuter rail&#8221; projects, the Northstar and the Red Rocks lines, <em>could<\/em> be exceptions.\u00a0 They are <em>very, very <\/em>different from the Ventura Trolley and the proposed Central Corridor lines in that<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>they use existing tracks (to say nothing of right-of-way), the same ones that all the freight trains use today.\u00a0 Other than stations, a few extra switches and sidings, they <em>can be <\/em>very cheap to build.<\/li>\n<li>The rolling stock &#8211; the cars and engines &#8211; <em>can be <\/em>relatively cheap.\u00a0 Indeed, it&#8217;s possible to buy used engines and cars from other commuter rail systems, refurbish them, and get them on the road for a fraction of the cost of buying new.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Via those factors &#8211; and given decent ridership &#8211; it&#8217;s actually possible, in theory, to make a commuter rail line <em>self-supporting. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Now, the Taxpayers&#8217; League once made a case against the Northstar; the lynchpin of which being that the line&#8217;s ridership was going to be much lower than estimated.\u00a0 The study took place, of course, back when gas was still below $2 a gallon; suburbanization and exurbanization shows no signs of slowing.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t know any updated numbers, but I&#8217;d suspect they&#8217;d be worth a second look.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s the other part &#8211; the tendence to &#8220;monumantalism&#8221; &#8211; that will continue to cause problems.\u00a0 And the Strib <a href=\"http:\/\/www.startribune.com\/local\/north\/12389261.html\">feeds the monkey without killing it<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Moments after Thomas Barrett, the U.S. deputy secretary of transportation, signed an agreement Tuesday committing $156.8 million in federal funding toward the $320 million Northstar line, Sen. Amy Klobuchar said what others have hoped for a decade:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I want it to go to St. Cloud,&#8221; she said from Washington in a taped message that was played to an audience that included Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Congressman Keith Ellison, state legislators, and officials from the three counties involved, Anoka, Hennepin and Sherburne.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Getting a &#8220;Klobuchar Wing&#8221; tacked onto a monument is good &#8220;Free&#8221; campaign publicity.<\/p>\n<p>Watch for more pols to find way$ to tack their name$ onto this project, jacking the co$t$ waaay higher than they need to be.<\/p>\n<blockquote \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I support mass transit options that can be teased into some kind of economic sense. Which means I oppose almost all of them.\u00a0 In almost all cases, mass transit is like big box schools; they serve their main purpose badly, but they are superb monuments to the governments that built them. 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