{"id":16588,"date":"2010-12-23T12:10:54","date_gmt":"2010-12-23T18:10:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=16588"},"modified":"2013-09-13T07:53:09","modified_gmt":"2013-09-13T12:53:09","slug":"the-great-poll-scam-part-xiv-fool-me-20-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=16588","title":{"rendered":"The Great Poll Scam, Part XIV:  Fool Me Ten Times\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>You&#8217;ve heard the old saying &#8211; &#8220;the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The joke writes itself.\u00a0 Nearly every election season, Minnesota&#8217;s media runs the results of the <em>Star-Tribune Minnesota Poll <\/em>and the <em>Humprey Institute\/MPR Poll <\/em>on its front pages; front and center on its 6 and 10PM newscasts; up-front in its hourly news bites; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=14526\">in the New York Times<\/a>; prominently on that big news crawl above Seventh Street in downtown Saint Paul.\u00a0\u00a0 To those who don&#8217;t dig into the numbers &#8211; and that&#8217;s probably 99 percent of Minnesota voters &#8211; that&#8217;s all there is to it.\u00a0 &#8220;Hm.\u00a0 Looks like Dayton&#8217;s winning big!&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>In most elections- <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=15162\">especially the close ones <\/a>&#8211; both polls (along with their downmarket stepsibling, the SCSU Poll) show numbers for GOP candidate that beggar the imagination.\u00a0 The media &#8211; the Strib, the TV stations, MPR &#8211; run the polls pretty\u00a0 much without any analysis.\u00a0 The job of actually fact-checking the polling falls to conservative bloggers &#8211; myself, MDE, Ed Morrissey, Scott Johnson and John Hinderaker, Gary Gross, the Dogs, Sheila Kihne and others; poll after poll, election after election, we shout into the storm &#8220;the numbers are a joke! <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=14634\">Democrats are oversampled <\/a>to an extent that is not warranted by electoral results we&#8217;ve seen in this state in nearly a generation!\u00a0\u00a0Would <em>someone <\/em>look into this?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The elections take place.\u00a0 There is hand-wringing about the inaccuracy of the polls.\u00a0 Two years pass.\u00a0 Larry Jacobs and the\u00a0 Strib release still more polls, repeating precisely the same pathologies, over and over and over.\u00a0 Forever and ever, amen.\u00a0 Lather, rinse, repeat.<\/p>\n<p>Now, &#8220;journalism&#8221; is supposed to be about accuracy and clarity.\u00a0 About telling the story, and telling it in a way that your sources reinforce your credibility and clarity.\u00a0 If you are a reporter, and you report a story based on a source&#8217;s information, and that information turns out to be wrong, it&#8217;s a bit of a vocational black eye.<\/p>\n<p>This morning I asked, rhetorically, &#8220;do you\u00a0think that if a source burned Tom Scheck or Pat Doyle or Rochelle Olson or Rachel Stassen-Berger over and over, year in and year out, by feeding them laughably\u00a0inaccurate information, not just once or twice but <em>on\u00a0nearly every story on which they are a key source<\/em>, would they keep using them as sources?&#8221;\u00a0 Without <em>really serious <\/em>corroboration, if indeed it could be found?\u00a0 Ever?\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>And yet the regional media not only continues running the Strib and HHH polls, election after election, without any serious question &#8211; until <em>after <\/em>the election, anyway.\u00a0 Notwithstanding the fact that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=15172\">the Strib&#8217;s Minnesota Poll has been very regularly wrong for a generation now<\/a>.\u00a0 Notwithstanding the fact that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=15159\">the Humphrey Poll has been even more consistent <\/a>in its systematic shorting of GOP candidates.\u00a0 The polls are still treated not only as useful news, but front-page material.<\/p>\n<p>This would prompt a curious person to ask a whooooole lot of questions:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why do the pollsters continue to generate such a defective product<\/strong>?:\u00a0 While I focused heavily over the past few days specifically on <a href=\"http:\/\/minnesota.publicradio.org\/documents\/news\/2010\/12\/MPR-HHH_Polls_2010_Newport_Review.pdf\">Gallup&#8217;s Frank Newport&#8217;s critique of the Humphrey Institute poll<\/a>, that gives the impression that this is a one-time issue.\u00a0 And yet both the major media polls have had nearly the same problems, election in, election out, for a generation (or in the case of the Humphrey Institute Poll,\u00a0 in every major election since 2004).\u00a0\u00a0 It&#8217;s gotten to the point where I want to stand outside 425 Portland, or outside the Humphrey Institute&#8217;s building at the U, and wave a sign about; &#8220;It&#8217;s the same thing, every time!&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why do the media continue to present such a routinely defective product as newsworthy<\/strong>?:\u00a0 Scott Johnson has been lighting up the &#8220;Minnesosta Poll&#8217;s&#8221; shortcomings for a solid decade now; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=15172\">the <em>Strib&#8217;s <\/em>poll is rarely even close<\/a>, and performs worse in close elections than in blowouts.\u00a0 And at the risk of repeating myself, let me repeat myself; the Humphrey Institute poll has underpolled Republicans by an <em>average <\/em>of nine points.\u00a0 This past election was distinguished from the previous years&#8217; ineptitude only in degree, not in concept.<\/p>\n<p>Does it never occur to our &#8220;watchdogs&#8221; and &#8220;gatekeepers&#8221; to look into this?\u00a0 Wasn&#8217;t &#8220;insatiable curiosity&#8221; once a pre-requisite for being a reporter?<\/p>\n<p>Do the editors at the Strib, the PiPress, KARE, MPR, WCCO and the rest of the regional mainstream media genuinely consider &#8220;polls are a snapshot in time&#8221; an excuse for decades worth of a pattern of inaccuracy, not only in polling technique but in <em>their own coverage of elections<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p>If a city councilman is caught cashing checks to herself, would saying\u00a0&#8220;it&#8217;s just a snapshot in time!&#8221; get the Strib to call their dogs off?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Appearance Of&#8230;Something?<\/strong>: I&#8217;ve said it before; I&#8217;m not a fundamentally conspiracy-minded person.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t necessarily believe that the media is involved in a <em>conscious, considered <\/em>conspiracy to short conservative candidates in close elections.<\/p>\n<p>Still &#8211; given that&#8230;:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>There is <em>no <\/em>randomness to the pattern &#8211; the errors <em>always <\/em>short the GOP, and favor the DFL, and&#8230;<\/li>\n<li>The pattern has been unchanged for over two decades, and&#8230;<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/?p=16522\">There <em>is <\/em>evidence to suggest that the &#8220;Bandwagon Effect&#8221; <em>can be <\/em>driven by misleading poll results<\/a>, especially with the &#8220;swing&#8221; voters that make all the difference in close races&#8230;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&#8230;I&#8217;ll ask again: if the Humphrey Institute (whose institutional sympathies lean definitively left-of-center) and the Strib (ditto) <em>wanted <\/em>to create a system that would help tip close-call contests toward the DFL, how would it be any different than the system they&#8217;ve developed?<\/p>\n<p>Not accusing.\u00a0 Just asking.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You&#8217;ve heard the old saying &#8211; &#8220;the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.\u00a0 The joke writes itself.\u00a0 Nearly every election season, Minnesota&#8217;s media runs the results of the Star-Tribune Minnesota Poll and the Humprey Institute\/MPR Poll on its front pages; front and center on [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[125],"tags":[262,120],"class_list":["post-16588","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-great-poll-scam","tag-minnesota-poll","tag-polling"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16588","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=16588"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16588\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":38353,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16588\/revisions\/38353"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=16588"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=16588"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.shotinthedark.info\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=16588"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}