133 thoughts on “It’s A Wet Heat”

  1. Regarding the notion that opposition to the IPCC consensus amounts to a conspiracy theory, I remember a time when IEEE Spectrum published an article where the effect of warming clearly came before the supposed “cause” of carbon dioxide, and where one of the correlations was using circular logic. It was delightful to see how many of my fellow engineers joined me in piling on that particular article.

    And, sad to say, the state of the science at the IPCC hasn’t improved much in the past two decades. They’re still using the upper confidence bound as the estimate they release to the press, still hiding their data because they tend to take it in the shorts when real scientists get a look at it, still hiding all the times when their models don’t work when applied to historic data.

    Yes, there’s a conspiracy, and it’s run by the United Nations and all the countries that are funding global warming research. And the history of epidemiology lately isn’t much better.

  2. Science about CO2 emissions and global warming exists for over 50 years and has been widely spread in the media for over 30 years. Everyone knew or should have known.

    This is result of humanity’s success coupled failure to keep our significant advances in check with the consequences. I think you’re perhaps over simplifying things. Solving this problem has never been ‘simple’ and the uncomfortable truth is that by the time consequences have become apparent much of the damage is done. There is considerable inertia behind climate change. Even if we manage to reduce emissions the temperature will continue to rise for some time.
    The consequences for humans are real and present now rather than residing in the hypothetical.

  3. There’s a family legend that my ancestors had a prosperous farm in Kentucky before The Late Unpleasantness. They lost everything including several male relatives killed defending their new nation from invasion. There’s a parallel legend on the other side, from County Londonderry in the Emerald Isle.

    All ancient history to me. I am neither an Eireman nor an Orangeman. I never owned any slaves. Tim Scott never picked any cotton. I don’t owe him a thing on account of my long-ago ancestor’s actions, on either side of the family tree.

    The entire discussion of the legacy of slavery is asinine. So naturally, the Emery Collective jumps all over it.

  4. Was that last post written by Emery the Climate Scientist? What are your credentials?

  5. Hey Big — When does white-as-Wonder-Bread Ron Desantis stop telling Blacks they don’t understand Black history?

  6. The leftists I know, even the educated leftists, all tend to make the same mistake in their reasoning when they praise rule by experts. They assume that if a person is, say, a credentialed “climate scientist,” then that person, if he is wrong about the climate, will always be more correct than a person who is not a credentialed “climate scientist.”
    What this does not into account is the nature of the science. “Climate science” is about human behavior. That is obvious, consider that the only fix for global warming offered by the “climate scientists” is to modify human behavior. That isn’t science, that is sociology.
    I was reminded the other day that humans have been altering the natural environment since the mesolithic, by burning forests, draining swamps, and selectively breeding plants and animals.
    One should always be suspicious when some group’s plan to save the world just happens to align with that group’s political goals.

  7. When does white-as-Wonder-Bread Ron Desantis stop telling Blacks they don’t understand Black history?

    So, skin color carries with it a knowledge of historical events? Or is it that white people can make up historical events on behalf of Blacks – who rarely seem to exhibit much interest at all in anything academic. Well, OK, except for Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams… and, oh, yeah, all those black thug scholars killed while committing crimes.

  8. Hey rAT? When does old as dirt, Pedo Joe stop telling blacks when they can be black?

    When will you fucking assholes stay in your lane? Buttsex, sexually transmitted disease, child buggering, drug consumption, living in tents, infanticide, White genocide, and the destruction of Western civilization…that’s your sweet spot. Oh, and suicide.

    So, how many of your fellow HaCKians are expected to eat a bullet this winter? Place looks like a bomb hit it in Summer; can’t imagine the moonscape in January.

    But I bet the ‘pout fishing is real good then, right?

  9. If we were to teach the truth we would explain to our children that the typical cotton plantation was a death camp; the death rate exceeded the birth rate, the slaves were worked to death, life expectancy was perhaps seven years. Hence, the slang term, “sold me down the river.”

    We would tell children that the wealth of the country was cotton. That the entire economic growth of the country was based on cotton production.

    Is that in the Florida curriculum?

    The mass of slaves worked the cotton fields and never made it to abolition. If that context were provided then perhaps it would be less problematic to tell the story of the handful of slaves who were blacksmiths and made it through abolition to a productive life afterwards. There is no problem in telling that story if you provide the larger context.

  10. Say, rAT?

    Tell me something…does asbestos siding inhibit the function of your sensitive climate instruments? How about that rusting ’81 Chevy truck in the yard….any deflection problems?

    Do you wear tinfoil while conducting research?

  12. Well, let us emphasize the positive.

    When you are raped, you can see it as an opportunity for developing skills to enjoy even unexpected and undesired experiences.

    And if you are shot but not quite killed, why it’s opportunity for developing skills that could be applied to the real death experience.

  13. the typical cotton plantation was a death camp

    I would expect someone who exhibited so little economic or financial intelligence to think that a plantation owner would rather that his (slave) laborers die than produce goods to sell.

  16. This is so old. Losing the debate? Looking like an idiot? Change the topic.

  20. As I wrote, they aren’t even hiding the fact that their “green dream” will impoverish you. Britain, in WW2, became so impoverished that it did not recover to pre war levels until the 50s, and, in some economic sectors, the 60s.
    Food, fuel, and even clothing was rationed in Britain in WW2. They mixed flour with sawdust to make bread. Rationing did not end until the early 1950s.
    BBC Newsnight
    @BBCNewsnight
    “Let’s mobilise on war footing, that’s what is needed.”
    Former Shadow Energy Secretary Barry Gardner says climate change is a war for survival and needs to be treated as such.

    https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1684684301634240512?s=20

  22. rAT explained: “life expectancy was perhaps seven years. Hence, the slang term, “sold me down the river.”

    No, rAT. First of all, that’s not slag, it’s an expression, Mr. ScIENcE DegREE man. Second, life expectancy was what…seven years? LMMFAO! So de massa be breedin’ he slave girls when they was what, 5?

    You incredible asshole…you’re potted right now, aren’t you?

    Finally, that expression came from slaves who were sent South, to Louisiana, where the livin’ wasn’t easy, and the highest population of black slave masters lived. Black slave masters were known for their brutality…guys like Anthony Johnson, the black massa who first figured out how to keep a slave when their period of indenture came to an end. He was a particularly brutal master…which is just keepin’ it real.

    Look it up, dick head.

  23. “If we were to teach the truth we would explain to our children that the typical cotton plantation was a death camp….”

    So what? What’s that got to do with me? I never owned any slaves, I never worked them to death, I received no inheritance from slave owners. I didn’t go to a college endowed by slave owners and have never been employed by a company funded by slave owners. The taxes I paid to the state, federal and local government were not discounted because my ancestors lived in a slave state.

    Doesn’t mean shit to me. Slaves have had it rough always and everywhere but I have no personal responsibilty for their plight and don’t owe a penny to their descendants.

    And getting back to the subject of Mitch’s post: I agree with the Instapundit. I’ll believe climate change is a crisis when the people who claim it’s a crisis start acting like it’s a crisis (beginning with turning off the air conditioning in every federal government building in the world). Until then, I don’t want to hear another goddamn word about my carbon footprint.

  24. Bigman, “In 1860 young black men aged nineteen to twenty-four could bring between $1,300 and $1,700 in the slave market; and young women between sixteen and twenty, from $1,200 to $1,500. Slaves with skills brought higher prices. Blacksmiths, wheelwrights, and furniture makers sold at a premium, as did particularly comely young women.”

    But hey…DONT SAY THAT IN FLORIDA!!!

    These revisionists who claim slaves were brutally mistreated as a matter of course are saying that Plantation owners were fucking idiots. A real US dollar in 1880 was worth 97% more than 2023 US Fiat currency…$100 in 1880 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $2,991.26 today, an increase of $2,891.26 over 143 years. Do the math.

    Would you have a go at a Ferrari 250 GTO with a rattle can of primer from O’Reilly auto parts? Would you drive a Corvette Z06 down to the fishing hole?

    Fuck no…you’d do everything you could to preserve and enhance it’s value….just like you’d teach an intelligent slave to shoe horses, or build a chair.

    Fuck these morons and poverty pimps, and fuck the neo-con’s who don’t have the balls to say the truth.

  25. Say, Bot Boy? Apparently, you and the San Francisco ho VP, missed the part about black scholars actually wrote the curriculum that will be taught in the Florida Public Schools. But hey. Keep playing and losing, you racist puke!

  26. The value of the average black nineteen to twenty-four man has decreased exponentially more than the value of US fiat currency since 1880.

    You’d have to *pay me* to enslave most urban black’s today. I really just don’t want them around.

  27. Emery-“I’m surprised …SITD leadership contains so many climate deniers..”.
    Our Emery, still hiding behind the skirt of a Holocaust slur…
    “The consequences for humans are now…”. What consequences, and any proof those consequences are going to happen? Computer model projections aren’t evidence.
    “Even if we manage to reduce emissions…”. Love it when people start their “arguments” with a false premise. Emery, you’d first have to prove that emissions need to be reduced. Science is funny that way, but it explains why most alarmists stop at “it’s warming!”.

  28. Emery, the depraved pedophile, is also a rancid anti-black racist of the first order. His is the kind of repugnant racism that I found so common in Mpls/StPl DFL/Soci@list leadership when I had the misfortune of working with them in the 80s & 90s. Smug, arrogant,and ignorant to the extreme they were willing like Emery to fabricate whatever fairy tales suited their fancy as long as it kept the black population on the vote harvesting plantation AND hating white people.

    Emery’s voice IS the voice of moral depravity, just wearing a new shade of lipstick and a pretty sun dress.

  29. “Emery- “I’m surprised …SITD leadership contains so many climate deniers..”.

    “Our Emery, still hiding behind the skirt of a Holocaust slur…”

    That’s actually a very observant comment, albeit not, perhaps as it was meant.

    Neither “climate deniers” nor “holocaust deniers” actually deny the event happened, or is happening. They just question the severity of the event and the responsibility of the supposed perpetrators in relation to other actors.

    That makes them villains in small minds.

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  31. As a meteorologist, I just roll my eyes at these articles this time of year. We’ve barely even had any 70° dew points this summer which is quite rare it’s been a dry and not very, ‘muggy summer til now. This summer has been great, nothing exceptional about it besides ‘warmish’ but hardly exceptional or anomalous by any means around here. Oh, and southern hemisphere from Australia to South America are experiencing a colder than avg winter… exceptionally in some areas. Pffft…political grabbing nonsense by the left as usual.

  32. An acquaintence lived in a small town west of the Cities. He was chatting with a long-time resident who mentioned he used to mow the lake? Huh?

    Seems that in the 1930’s, it was hot enough and dry enough for long enough that the entire North bay of the lake dried up to firm ground. A farmer planted hay on it and this gentleman (a lad at the time) drove the team pulling the horse-drawn sickle mower to cut the hay which was then raked up and hauled by wagon to a hay mound above the barn. Got two crops a year.

    Tell that man it wasn’t hot and dry 100 years ago. He was there. He knows.

  33. Here is what climate grifters and gaslighters do not want you know. Because, you know, they cannot gaslight this as being man-made, although give them time:

    Let’s meet the historic, record-shattering Hunga Tonga volcanic eruption of 2022, which I bet you never heard of. Back in January 2022, you were probably distracted by covid mandates or maybe by Biden calling himself “Senator” again. The short version is an underwater Pacific Ocean volcano named Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai, 490 feet under the waves, massively erupted, bigger than any other modern eruption, even bigger than Mount Pinatubo.

    You never heard about it since it was underwater and nobody died. But the erupting lava instantly vaporized fantastic, unimaginable amounts of sea water, which billowed into the atmosphere, changing the water composition of Earth’s atmosphere and heating it up for years. In only a few days, the superheated water from the Hunga Tonga eruption blanketed the globe, pole to pole, East to West.

    The eruption was so big it could be clearly seen from space.

    …

    When the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai volcano erupted on Jan. 15, it sent a tsunami racing around the world and set off a sonic boom that circled the globe twice. The underwater eruption in the South Pacific Ocean also blasted an enormous plume of water vapor into Earth’s stratosphere – enough to fill more than 58,000 Olympic-size swimming pools. The sheer amount of water vapor could be enough to temporarily affect Earth’s global average temperature.

    The not only injected ash into the stratosphere but also large amounts of water vapor, breaking all records for direct injection of water vapor, by a volcano or otherwise, in the satellite era. …The excess water vapor injected by the Tonga volcano … could remain in the stratosphere for several years. This extra water vapor could influence atmospheric chemistry, boosting certain chemical reactions that could temporarily worsen depletion of the ozone layer. It could also influence surface temperatures … since water vapor traps heat.

    “We’ve never seen anything like it,” said Luis Millán, an atmospheric scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California.

    …

    Over the next year it would turn out that NASA badly underestimated the amount of water Hunga Tonga vaporized into the atmosphere. Current estimates are three times higher than the original: scientists now think it was closer to 150,000 metric tons, or 40 trillion gallons, of super-heated water instantly injected into the atmosphere. Talk about a greenhouse. Water vapor — humidity — is a much more effective greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

    But hey, Big’s charcoal grill and my gas stove HAVE GOT TO GO!

    here is the article https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/overheated-friday-july-28-2023-c

  36. @jpa — Imaginary enemies are always the most powerful.

    @pig — If Lincoln had just listened to economically anxious southerners instead of launching a neo-imperialist war of choice, the thorny issue of slavery could’ve been resolved very differently. ;^)

  37. Emery, you ignorant, depraved pedophile, if your assertion;
    “the typical cotton plantation was a death camp; the death rate exceeded the birth rate, the slaves were worked to death, life expectancy was perhaps seven years.”
    was even remotely true the effect of The Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves of 1807 would have resulted in there being no slaves to sell, work to death, or fight over by 1835. For a pedophile with an alleged science background you research skills don’t even rise to the level of rudimentary. Your ignorance is truly breathtaking.

  38. Emery writes a comment to change the topic.
    It’s not even a decent comment, half the time he cribs them from Democrat talking points.
    Another day at Emery blog. Oh well, no one is forcing me to visit SITD.

  39. mmp

    Agreed, Emery’s participation on SITD is most accurately analogous to ringworm, but rather than cede SITD to him it is important to counter his ignorant, racist posts for those hundreds of non-commenting readers. They don’t need to see Emery’s malignant racism go unchallenged and it severely degrades this blog if he does go unchallenged.

  40. ^ Should American slavery be considered an unpaid internship? Apparently there were upsides to being enslaved…

  41. ^^More malignant racism from Emery the depraved pedophile.
    Can’t make a cogent argument on a subject so he falls back on cutsie snark and double entendre racism.

  42. Ron Desantis is 44 years old. For his station in life he is incredibly young and by all measures has led a gilded existence. Elite education — both Yale and Harvard. The Military, Congress and Governor. He has heard all the big frontrunner talk about his chances in 2024 and won re-election by a wide margin. He was likely feeling invincible and probably cannot comprehend floundering because he is not recovering well. He is showing his true colors. He is revealing himself to be a one-trick pony. And, unfortunately for him, the one trick he has (Anti-Wokism) is currently being done better by the original himself, Donald Trump. People who adore a psychopath will never settle for anything less than the real deal.

  43. I find puzzling the ongoing assertion, which is found in many articles, that holds DeSantis is strategically running to the right of Trump in the hope of capturing the MAGA base should Trump falter. Yet nowhere can I find strong evidence supporting that crafty political positioning.

    Instead, I suspect that DeSantis is running to the right of Trump, not because the Governor is a hidden centrist, but because his political views lie to the right of even Trump’s, which leads me to why DeSantis is likely slipping in the polls.

    The answer may well lie in that the public is starting to catch on to DeSantis’s native, right-wing extremism, which at some subconscious level, they are beginning to emotionally reject.

  44. ^^ another example of Emery’s stunted intellect
    his best and only argument, when he isn’t plagiarizing, is ad hominem and for the past 7 years it’s exclusively featured his own personal Babayka; Donald Trump.

  45. Are descendants of the Mayflower Pilgrims better off living in America than if their ancestors had not been forced to leave England to seek religious freedom?

    Are descendants of the Potato Famine better off living in America than if their ancestors had not been forced to leave Ireland to feed their families?

    Are descendants of the Norwegian and Swedish settlers better off living in America than if their ancestors had not made the crossing?

    Why is it legitimate to ask these questions but not to ask whether descendants of Inland Negros captured by Coastal Negros and sold to slave traders, are better off living in America than if their ancestors had not been forced to come here?

    If Blacks in America truly don’t feel better off – if they truly want to return to the land of their ancestors – nobody is stopping them. There’s already a country in Africa composed of returned former slaves: Liberia.

    Okay, tickets aren’t cheap, agreed. Start a Go Fund Me. Get a job and save your pennies. Ask the local KKK if they’ll pay to be rid of you forever. Petition your Congressperson to adopt federal legislation giving forgivable travel loans in exchange for relinquishing your citizenship. Demand Target and Pillsbury divert money from the Guthrie Theatre to airline tickets. Ask Black Lives Matter to sell one of its mansions. Figure something out. And go. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

  46. “As a country founded upon freedom, the greatest deprivation of freedom was slavery,” Scott said. “There is no silver lining … in slavery. … What slavery was really about [was] separating families, about mutilating humans and even raping their wives. It was just devastating. So, I would hope that every person in our country — and certainly running for president — would appreciate that.” ~ Sen. Tim Scott (S.C.)

  47. You guys in the Collective don’t have a clue, do you?

    The Republican Party only gets one candidate in the election. The competition to determine who that candidate will be, is made by voters in the primary election. Primary election voters are the Republican rank-and-file, the base of support, mostly small business and employees. Trump is CRUSHING everybody else in the polls of those people.

    DeSantis is the hand-picked candidate of the party bigshots who are desperate to have DeSantis win the primary instead of Trump (same as Hillary was hand-picked by Democrats over Bernie, the party popular favorite). DeSantis is trying to fake out the rank-and-file by pretending to be a Conservative but they’re not buying it because they already KNOW Trump is their guy. They wanted him in 2016. They wanted him in 2020. They want him again in 2024.

    I know, I know: he’s a vile person, he said “pussy,” he beat Hillary when she was the Heir Apparent to the Rose Garden Throne. He should never be allowed to hold office again; hell, never be allowed to draw a free breath again. That’s what the phony prosecutions are all about – trying to convince people he’s a crook so they should vote for Bribem and the Kackler. Won’t work. Everybody knows it’s fake. Trump might just be the first person elected while in prison.

    It’d serve you right.

  48. Slavery was bad. Got it. We dealt with that issue 100 years ago. Get over it.

    Okay, moving on.

  49. Only three more nonsense threadjacks and we break 100 comments.

    Go, Emery, Go!

  50. ^^ Remember, it’s the South where some still think the Lost Cause isn’t lost yet.

    A historian’s job is to describe what happened; when it happened; and why it happened. Whether what happened is good or bad is a moralist’s question, and tends to vary with fashion.

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