Do You Remember…

…20 years ago, right after 9/11, when some on the left said the overreaction to the terror attacks 20 years ago tomorrow would actually give the terrorists the win they wanted?

I can’t have been the only one thinking Joe Biden’s speech yesterday must have made Mohammed Atta smile in whatever part of the Great Beyond he’s in now.

The nuts and bolts of the speech, to the extent there were any? The “president” wants to use OSHA to enforce a vaccine mandate on companies with more than 100 employees – as if forcing a medication on employees (and the forced sharing of medical records, and the inevitable shielding of employers from liability when those records are inevitably. misused) is the same as safety shields in ripsaws. We’ll await future presidents using the same precedent to force inoculations against smoking, obesity, and, eventually and inevitably, barring some outbreak of sanity, ideas.

Also – not a single mention of natural immuinity. 50 mllion Americans are known to have been infected and recovered (myself included); that natural immunity is at least as effective as any pharmaceutical – but is being pointedly ignored.

It’s hard to honestly say what was the most concerning part of our “chief of state’s” speech yesterday. I’m not the only one to whom it sounded like a desperate muddle of authoritarian knee-jerks.

His little shot at the governors who are pushing back at his misbegotten authority – how he’s going to use the power of the Federal Government and the Presidency to show them who’s boss?

It sounds like he wants to crush the idea and practice of federalism; like separation of powers is the problem.

Much of it was peoples reactions to the “President”. For example, this weasel:

People on the left have a frightening propensity to see government as a “Parent”, rather than the custodian elected by the “Free Association of Equals” in the Declaration of Independence.

Of course, if you can’t get timeless wisdom from Joy Reid and Steve Schmidt of “The Lincoln Project”, where can you get it?

The scapegoating of the unvaccinated – who, notwithstanding the left’s propaganda machcine, are largely the young, the poor, and Black males from 20-40 years old – was perhaps the most chilling thing about the, er, “speech”.

Thing is, a real leader – I’m looking at you, Ron DeSantis – could get a lot of mileage out of something that’s been pushed to the sidelines throughout this pandemic – the truth. John Hayward has a draft of a part of the speech that could have been:

20 years after 9/11, we have government by decree, an out of control bureaucracy that governs more or less as it wishes unless and until someone musters the numbers or. money to try to clip it, a plutocrat sector that buys its own boutique version of freedom, and a population that’s being conditioned to accept a dystopian shredding of freedom as “the new normal”.

75 thoughts on “Do You Remember…

  1. So much to say.

    Leftists responses to all this are largely due to the fairy tale that it is Trump voters not getting vaxxed, and in fact the opposite is true. If you look at the groups you mentioned Mitch, doesn’t sound like a rundown of Republicans. Plus look ayt all the exemptions: postal, unemployed, welfares recipients, probably teachers unions. Yup, just a bunch of Maga types.

    /sarc off

  2. More: this is a distraction from the bad economy; jello brain is planning on blaming the bad economy on the unvaxed, and with the help of the Lamestream mediots he will try to pin it on Trump voters.

    Inflation is raging out of control, and if we had either honest mediots or fair elections the dems are going to lose BIGLY in 2022. Its a blame game.

    Not to mention the desperation to TRY to get Afghanistan out of the news.

  3. “Vaccines don’t prevent the Wuhan virus from spreading, but they largely neutralize its effects. Get vaccinated and life returns to normal as this becomes a manageable disease. We’ll stop obsessing over ‘cases’ and focus on reducing hospitalizations.” No. Sounds reasonable but it’s actually stupid. Here’s why:

    Without the vaccine, I have a 98% chance of surviving Covid.
    With the vaccine, I have a 99% chance of surviving Covid.
    The vax benefit is an additional 1% chance of surviving Covid.

    Without the vaccine, I have 0 % chance of side effects.
    With the vaccine, I have X% chance of side effects.
    The vax cost is some amount of increased risk of side effects.

    Weighing the Benefit against the Cost, I chose not to vax. That’s a thoughtful, reasonable, personal decision which affects nobody else. It’s my body, my risk, my choice. Leave me alone.

    The most chilling line in the speech was, “This is not about freedom or personal choice.” That was the moment my America died. I don’t know where I’m living now.

  4. Good rant. I especially liked the shout-out to those who actually comprise the unvaccinated. And those with natural immunity.

    And that link to NR – they and all the other Trump skeptics should be reminded every day that America voted for the “nice guy”.

    And I’m not going to deny it, but I’m really disappointed in that tweet from Hayward. We should be encouraging natural immunity and only vaccinating those who might some extra help. That along with use and research into cheap and beneficial therapeutics.

  5. Apparently cnnlol has a new methodology for conducting presidential approval polling, and it gives jello brain a 52% approval. That cost me a keyboard spit take, lol.

    Reputable polling has him at 44 or 45, and with polls leaning left 5 or so points, his fraudulency is probably at 39 or 40, HISTORICALLY low.

  6. A word or two from Jonah Goldberg who doesn’t try to weasel his words like Hayward: Whether you think what Biden’s doing is a sincere/legal/noble effort to fight the pandemic or a tyrannical outrage or a cynical media strategy, IT WOULDN’T BE HAPPENING IF EVERYONE WAS VACCINATED. Get vaccinated, ffs.

    Our thought leaders. Those who would be Our Voices on the Right if not for that a55hole from Queens.

  7. Question to the Biden administration: How come this new, potentially-onerous requirement on employers and their employees isn’t in the form of a law, being debated and passed by both houses of Congress prior to being signed into law by the president? Can you justify the encroachment on liberties by edict from the executive branch?

    If there are any principled individuals in Congress, I think they should start looking at future funding levels for OSHA.

    “This isn’t a game,” Biden says.

    Damn right, Uncle Joe. Taking the end-run around the Constitution tends to get Americans’ attention.

  8. Problems with the mandate as noted by Richard Epstein, law prof & one time SC short-lister:
    -Earlier vaccine mandates were not based on a mutating virus, they were based on stable viruses that had existed for many centuries and studied scientifically for at least a century.
    -Biden makes no account for people with existing immunity. The reasoning behind this will be hard to explain to sceptical court.
    -OSHA’s powers are not unlimited, and the effects of unvaccinated people on the operation of government is not severe enough to justify giving new powers to OSHA w/o congressional approval or a new law.
    -The most interesting objection Epstein mentioned was that Biden’s EO was so “edgy” legally, and crossed so many jurisdictions, that the result will be legal chaos.

    I’m not endorsing Epstein’s interpretation of the legal issues around Biden’s mandate, but he knows a lot more about them than any commenter on SITD.

  9. If you want a good laugh, check out Goldberg’s podcast with liberals Slate writer Will Saleton.
    Saleton uses Goldberg’s TDS as a lever to get Goldberg to agree to essentiall all of his liberal principles. When Saleton blamed the current spike in covid infections and deaths on Trump supporting Republicans, he got no pushback from Goldberg, who you think would understand the concept of blood libel.

  10. What’s the latest statistic – something like 11 million unfilled jobs dragging down the Biden economy? If that edict goes through, how many unfilled jobs will there be? I can’t imagine a lot of employers (outside the usual suspects and unofficial government entities) eager to embrace that. And it’s not just losing headcount – there are all the costs of having to replace those employees (and, of course, making sure they’re vaccinated).

    What about the unions? Nobody knows better than Quid pro Joe that they don’t give up anything without getting something bigger in return. What will that look like? And – just spitballing here – what about the NFL. Every team has more than 100 employees; when it comes to the players about half are not vaccinated, including some high profile stars. Is the Player’s Union (which urges vaxing) going to react well to a mandate? Are teams going to cut first-stringers because Slow Joe says so?

    And the Courts – if Trump had tried something like this, at least four federal judges would slap an injunction on him so quickly he’d get windburn.

    Really, I haven’t seen an executive policy so poorly thought out since, well, Afghanistan.

  11. “I am so disappointed that particularly some Republican governors have been so cavalier with the health of these kids, so cavalier with the health of their communities,” Biden said during his trip to Brookland Middle School in Washington, D.C. “This isn’t a game.”

    Biden himself was so cavalier with the lives of the 13 dead American servicemen in Afghanistan, and continues to be cavalier with the lives of the Americans still stuck in Afghanistan. He is not even trying to make sense anymore.

  12. MBerg wrote: “The “president” wants to use OSHA to enforce a vaccine mandate…”

    Actually it’s the choice of a vaccine or a weekly Covid test. Americans have still have the freedom to make choices. It is not unfair for workers to realize that the cost of frequent testing should be borne out of pocket, by them, and not by insurers or employers. That is their choice. Freedom is not necessarily cost free.

    Personally — I think it’s far more cruel to knowingly feed Trumpalos misinformation that will definitely cause some of them to die than to try to shame them into getting vaccinated with ridicule.

  13. What is this? An on-topic comment from Emery? So outlandish.
    A silly and stupid comment, sure (“da got choices still, two of em”), but on-topic.

  14. It’ll be hilarious watching the same people cheering the Florida and Texas Governors for forcing private businesses to not mask or demand proof of vaccination suddenly discover limited government principles again.

  15. Given Biden’s record on masks and vaccines, next week he will pushing his “horse dewormer” mandate.

  16. Limited government means limited FEDERAL government, dipsh*t.

    Federalism: look it up. It’ll only take someone with your skills 3 or 4 hours.

  17. ^ Part of the art of politics is entrapping your opponents into identifying themselves with unpopular causes like anti-vaccination.

  18. Night Writer on September 10, 2021 at 1:12 pm said:
    What’s the latest statistic – something like 11 million unfilled jobs dragging down the Biden economy?
    . . .
    >Kind of like his “all nursing home staff must be vaccinated!”
    There is not thought here. Like the bungled Afghan evacuation, it’s all a tantrum.
    The more that is coming out about the Afghan debacle, the worse it looks. Biden’s political people keep trying to find some staffer they can pin the fail on, but everybody was covering their ass pretty good.
    The worse Biden looks, the harder it is to hold congress to his will. The less he can pass his agenda, the worse he looks.
    What a shitty politician.

  19. Look at Prince Machiavelli and his words of advice. We’re in the presence of greatness, I tell ya.

  20. We have a Senate candidate in MN — Scott Jensen who is directing his messaging toward the 29% of Minnesotans that haven’t gotten a jab, rather than the 71% of Minnesotans that have gotten the vaccine.

    Republicans are Covid’s most dependable ally. The GOP has decided the worse the pandemic, the weaker Biden’s chances of re-election.

  21. Did the GOP trap President Biden into going full fascist?
    Wow, that was some pretty successful politicking.

  22. I have to laugh, when I read rat Emery’s screed today.

    Today, I cashed in a fairly substantial savings account, and converted it to gold and silver. (JB Bullion). I put my hot rod up for sale. I put my larger boat up for sale. l dropped off a consignment of collectable long guns at my local dealer’s shop; he purchased my M1 Garand and Patent 1853 Enfield, 3 ring rifle (certified civil war) outright, and I already have an offer on my Browning A5 shotgun.

    I have contacted the Shiloh Auction Company to sell my antiques and a couple paintings.

    We are preparing to walk away to the land I will defend with my life.

    This bullshit won’t survive the SCOTUS, but I’m tired of having to live in dread every couple years when some fucking scumbag gets power. I’m fucking done.

    I dread the fight I see coming, but I lament not being able to confront the scumbags I know.

  23. BTW, I probably don’t need to say it. but that pants shitting, election stealing, senile dotard telling us his patience is wearing thin…….well Ill leave it there.

  24. Twat wrote: “Today, I cashed in a fairly substantial savings account, and converted it to gold and silver.”

    Gold is the Gold Standard of investing myths.

    If you’d invested $100 in gold in 1960, buying 2.85 ounces, you’d have $4900 today.

    If you’d invested $100 in the S&P in 1960, reinvesting all dividends, you’d have more than $38,000 today.

    They give this information away for free on Google, it’s amazing.

    Now do the “whole life insurance” scam.

  25. Your fellow right wingers have had over a year and a half to help beat the virus. And now thanks to a vaccine which brings your risk of serious illness down to a very low level, offered for free and which has minimal side effects, is a massive carrot. But it might not seem that way if you’ve been told for one and a half years that Covid is no big deal.

  26. Emery-just make sure you don’t take that horse pill-bad stuff happens…

  27. Rat Emery belched: If you’d invested $100 in the S&P in 1960, reinvesting all dividends, you’d have more than $38,000 today.

    lol. Good luck cashing those bonds in from the bottom of the fetid hole you’re hiding from me in, fuckwad.

    Your feckless dotard has declared war on 1/3 of the country….the 1/3 that matters in such matters.

    Duck, motherfucker.

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  29. Right up until the moment that he declared all large private employers in the country would be forced to require COVID-19 vaccinations, President Joe Biden consistently opposed COVID vaccine mandates. And he was not alone: Speaking in her capacity as an official White House spokesperson, Press Secretary Jen Psaki explicitly stated “that’s not the role of the federal government.”

    Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), also said there would be no mandate.

    On December 4, 2020, Biden said the vaccine would not be imposed by mandate. “No, I don’t think it should be mandatory,” he said. “I wouldn’t demand it be mandatory.”

    Psaki’s comments came even more recently, on July 23, 2021. “That’s not the role of the federal government,” she said when asked about such mandates. “That’s the role that institutions, private-sector entities, and others, may take.”

    A week later, on July 31, Walensky corrected a comment she had made that some interpreted as being supportive of a federal mandate. “There will be no nationwide mandate,” she said. “I was referring to mandates by private institutions and portions of the federal government. There will be no federal mandate.”

  30. Just weeks ago the Biden administration dismissed the idea of a vaccine mandate.
    The current covid wave is receding, and there has been research showing that all the mandates — masking, social distancing, business closures — have no effect on the progress of the pandemic.
    So why the mandate.
    Biden’s polling is in the tank. The economy is crap, the Afghanistan debacle revealed the incompetence of not only Biden, but his advisers as well. No one got so much as a slap on the wrist for losing a war & gifting our sworn enemies with a sovereign nation and literally billions of dollars in weaponry.
    Biden thinks that he can actually do something regarding covid that will salvage enough of his reputation to maybe, just maybe, retain control of the house or senate in 2022.
    It won’t work.

  31. ” . . .if you’ve been told for one and a half years that Covid is no big deal.”

    That’s because it IS no big deal. Healthy Skeptic has easy-to-read charts using official government data (which itself, is inflated by high cycle PCR tests and lumping all deaths as Covid deaths).

    Even using those phony numbers, check out “Overview Chart” – we’re not seeing a Surge of cases, just a small seasonal bump, no big deal; “What the CDC Won’t Show You from the Study on Children’s Hospitalization” – stable, low case rate, no big deal; and “Survival Rates” – greater than 98% including all unvaccinated, no big deal.

    Covid is basically a bad flu which targets the frail elderly, like every other bad flu. Those are the FACTS. That is the SCIENCE. All the rest is political bull.

  32. The speech was full of the same non sequitors and logical errors that we get from the E’s. I wonder there’s a Journolist for robots and trolls? Samples:

    “The week before I took office on January 20th of this year, over 25,000 Americans died that week from COVID-19. Last week, that grim weekly toll was down 70%.” That’s because the flu is a seasonal illness – more people die in January than August – nothing to do with you being in office or people taking the vaccine.

    “Instead of encouraging people to get vaccinated and mask up, they’re ordering mobile morgues for the unvaccinated dying from COVID in their communities.” If the vaccine protects people from Covid, no need for masks. If the vaccine doesn’t protect prople, no need to vax.

    “The unvaccinated overcrowd our hospitals, are overrunning emergency rooms and intensive care units, leaving no room for someone with a heart attack or pancreatitis or cancer.” There are NO hospitals overcrowded with Covid patients, NO hospitals leaving other patients untreated.

    ” . . . only one out of every 160,000 fully vaccinated Americans was hospitalized for COVID per day.” So? How many unvaxxed American were hospitalized for Covid per day?

    ” . . . many said they were waiting for approval from the Food and Drug Administration, the FDA. Last month, the FDA granted that approval, so the time for waiting is over.” Thereby proving FDA approval is not a medical certification of safety or effectivness, it’s a political action to get better publicity.

    More in the next post

  33. “This is not about freedom or personal choice. It’s about protecting yourself and those around you, the people you work with, the people you care about, the people you love.” If all those other people are vaxxed with a vaccine that works, it doesn’t matter whether I’m vaxxed – they’re protected because they got the vaccine. If the vaccine doesn’t work, it doesn’t matter whether I’m vaxxed, they’re not protected by their own vax shot and wouldn’t be protected by mine.

    “We’re going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated coworkers.” See above.

    ” . . .the vaccine requirements in my plan will affect about 100 million Americans, two thirds of all workers.” Those aren’t the people declining the vax. Or if they are, there’s a hell of a lot more than 80 million decliners.

    ” . . . to those of you running large entertainment venues, from sports arenas to concert venues to movie theaters, please require folks to get vaccinated or show a negative test as a condition of entry.” If 49,999 of the fans are vaxxed and the vaccine protects them from the unvaxxed, how does my being unvaxxed pose any threat to them? If the vaccine doesn’t protect them from me, why mandate the vax?

    “And to the nation’s family physicians, pediatricians, GPs, general practitioners . . . I’m asking each of you to reach out to your unvaccinated patients over the next two weeks and make a personal appeal to them to get the shot.” When my doctor becomes a trollbot for the DFL, time to find a new doctor. And why doctors? Why not priests and rabbis, since this is a conversation about belief and not science?

    ” . . . our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us.” How? Hospitals are not overwhelmed, patients are not going untreated, and if we are dying, we’re helping reduce your long-term Medicare costs and Social Security deficit. If the vaccine worked, you vaxxed people could simply shrug and say, “You made your bed, now die in it,” which costs you nothing.

    “For the vast majority of you who’ve gotten vaccinated . . . I understand the anxiety about getting a breakthrough case, but as the science makes clear, if you’re fully vaccinated, you’re highly protected from severe illness, even if you get COVID-19. In fact, recent data indicates there is only one confirmed positive case per 5,000 fully vaccinated Americans per day.” That’s because on May 1, the CDC announced it would transition “from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause.” That 1 in 5,000 number is laughably low and will only increase as we head into Winter cold and flu season.

    That’s enough, you get the idea. The same tired nonsense we’ve been hearing from day one, is being recycled and reused to promote the newest panacea. First it was washing hands and elbow bumping, then masks and social distance, then house arrest and banning religious worship, now an experimental counter-measure hastily relabeled “vaccine” but which doesn’t actually protect the user.

    “I understand your anger at those who haven’t gotten vaccinated.” Oh, you have no idea how many angry people there are. And no idea how many more you just created. Or maybe you do, which is why you’re putting the fencing back up in DC.

    All this nonsense during the Summer, but we know Covid acts like the flu. And Winter is coming.

  34. South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster, to rat Biden and his filthy enablers:

    “We will fight you to the gates of hell”

    So damn proud and happy to be among my people.

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