#Unexpected

Joe Doakes from Como Park emails:

A couple of days ago, I urged application of Berg’s 18th Law of Media Latency to the events at the Capitol. I was right. The FBI has charged a Leftist for the Capitol riot. He was running a false flag operation, dressing as a Trump supporters to infiltrate the crowd to commit violence.

Still, I’m seeing bloggers and columnists on the Right saying that even though President Trump did not urge his supporters to commit violence; and even though Leftist infiltrators did commit it; it’s still President Trump’s fault.

Look, I expect the Left to blame the victim of its false flag operation – that’s the point of running a false flag operation. I expect Never-Trumpers to do it too, because they hate Donald Trump and want him gone by any means.

I wasn’t expecting it from people nominally on our side. It’s disappointing. There’s a flavor of Saint Peter’s Denial about it, of throwing the man under the bus to avoid denunciation by the Liberal mob, of saving one’s own skin at the expense of one’s own principles.

In terms of fighting the system, I think Donald Trump may have been the greatest American President since Andrew Jackson. I think his reelection victory was stolen from him. I think he has received shabby treatment from his friends and allies, people I thought were my friends and allies.

Monday is a federal holiday to remember Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., another man who fought the system and lost. I’m taking a few days off to think about things. Take care, everyone.

Joe Doakes

There’s a lot to think about this month.

154 thoughts on “#Unexpected

  1. You mean that you CNN video clips and commentary might not be telling you the whole story?
    No matter how many times the MSM is shown to have worked overtime to lie and deceive its consumers, some people are sure that they ain’t lying this time when they confirm my biases.

  2. The inability to recognize or acknowledge reality seems to be a core GOP/conservative requirement these days.

    “A leftist” — as a matter of fact — members of the far right are being arrested and hundreds more under investigation.

    The fakers always reveal themselves. Vague references to “There are videos” without any links or specific sources. Reminds me of Trump’s lawyers after the election. Spouted all sorts of wild stories about voter fraud in front of cameras. Had nothing to show in court under threat of perjury.

    Just because the left is outraged that Trump lied about the election being stolen so much that a mob stormed the Capitol and killed people on Trump’s behalf, doesn’t mean conservatives shouldn’t be outraged by it.

  3. Joe – I think there are some thinking that if they decry Trump on this, then maybe the left will see an example and do the same. Seriously. For these people, violence occured and that means full stop since violence is bad.

    The problem is that violence is neither good nor bad. It is just violence – there to be used as a tool, with morality assigned through user intent. And the opposition is fine with using it. Anyone that has dealt with bullies knows how that goes.

  4. The inability to recognize or acknowledge reality seems to be a core GOP/conservative requirement these days.
    Sez the guy who predicted a Hillary landslide & went all-in on the Russian Collusion hoax — and can’t admit, to this day, that Andy Weisman couldn’t find any proof of “Russian collusion.”

  5. House GOP leader tells members to quit spreading lies on riot, antifa
    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/533759-house-gop-leader-tells-members-to-quit-spreading-lies-on-riot-antifa

    /House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told members of his GOP conference on a call Monday that the riot at the Capitol was not caused by antifa, urging lawmakers not to further spread misinformation about the pro-Trump mob that stormed the House and Senate last week.

    “McCarthy told all members on the call that he has been receiving FBI briefings and it is clear that antifa was not behind this,” one source familiar with the call said. “That it was in fact right-wing extremists and QAnon adherents, and he urged members to stop spreading false information to the contrary.”/ ~ The Hill

  6. “House GOP leader tells members to quit spreading lies on riot”

    Yeah. Notice that? The GOP is telling people to focus on verifiable facts.

    As opposed to the Dems, who continue to tell people that Trump worked for the Russians, that the 2000 election was “stolen”, that that there are infinite genders and that DNA changes with gender-reassignment surgery, that marriage is just about love, that everyone knew in 1980 that the USSR’s days were numbered, that the media isn’t biased (and that “facts are liberal!”), that nobody’s coming for your guns and that gun control reduces crime, that a baby isn’t human until it emerges from the mother, that there is a pay gap ascribable to anything but peoples educational, vocational and life choices, that “systemic racism” and “white privilege” exist, that “Anti”-Fa is just an idea and they’re great because fascism is bad and they’re “anti” it so they must be good, that the Blue states “carry” the Red ones financially and socially, that elections in places like Philly and Chicago and the West Bank are above-board, that shutting down the economy is working for handling Covid and that viral immunity just doesn’t exist and that “masking up” is a proven public health measure, that printing money to pay people a lower-middle-class income in perpetuity and thus transferring the entire economy from small entrepreneurs to big (left leaning) corporations is sound economic or public health policy, that BLM is actually about saving black lives, that “science” is a monolithic canon of knowledge that one either accepts in toto or brands oneself a caveman, and the Joe Biden is perfectly fit for office.

  7. “Sullivan spoke to a slew of media outlets after the breach, including CNN and ABC. He told The Epoch Times that he took steps to blend in with the crowd so he didn’t “get beat up.” He said he’s known in the activist community as being a member of the far-left, anarcho-communist group Antifa.”

    Iceberg, meet tip

  8. Looks like the FBI just ate a bag of dicks.

    “While the FBI and the mainstream media insist there is no evidence Antifa or BLM played any role in the deadly mob that stormed the Capitol last Wednesday, Sullivan admits in the footage that he strategically wore a Trump hat and carried a “big ass camera” at the rally to guise himself as a journalist and mislead law enforcement and the media about his true motives.

    “It’s all fake,” he explains. “I learned that sh*t already – I am going to wear a Trump hat. I am going to wear a Trump hat. I bought one today. I was wearing a Trump hat at the f*cking last Trump – at that Trump rally during the daytime – because I was like, ‘nah, that sh*t ain’t happening, bro.”

    I doubt the FBI has ever been held in such low regard by the American public.

    Obama’s legacy of shame continues.

  9. Imagine nit onky using FBI briefings to inform yourself, but admitting it publicly as the justification for criticising your own people.

    I hope Kevin McCarthy apologises to the GOP caucus today. It’s mandatory if he hopes to maintain his credibility and self-respect.

  10. MBerg wrote: “Yeah. Notice that? The GOP is telling people to focus on verifiable facts.”

    If you as a “conservative”, claims to believe in serious notions of right and wrong. And claim to champion moral clarity. If your first response to every misdeed of your side is to criticize the other side for condemning it. That’s not principled conservatism, it’s hackery.

  11. Tard Joe “thinking” ought to be understood in parenthetical terms, mostly for the irony.

    Make it a true respite Joe.  Its Friday, you never post on weekends, and you have Monday off as a government worker.  

  12. Evidently, CNN has no comment on its connection with antifa.

    Neither does any other fake news source; total blackout. No wonder reprobates embarrass themselves so readily; they have no brains AND no clue.

  13. If you’ve wondered how Pedo Joe can take office without worrying about the details of the molestation he committed on his sons being investigated, you haven’t been paying attention.

    Hunter Biden’s neice is likewise out of luck in the justice department.

  14. While my comment sits in the “user experience” guy’s buggy moderation purgatory..

    MBerg, If your only — or even simply your first — point in defense of Trump is that Democrats are hypocrites or have double standards, you are in effect arguing that the left dictates your standards.

    If you say Trump can’t or shouldn’t be held to account because liberals didn’t hold their own side accountable for (what you allege) was similar incitement or behavior, what you’re really saying is you care less about your own standards than the hypocrisy of the left.

  15. No wonder BLM and Antifa terrorists operate with such abandon. Not only to they have the fake media in the bag, have members embedded in government and deep pockets to finance them, the supposed opposition (the FBI) is either complicit or dumber than, well, the Cheese Whiz troll.

  16. Dr. Pete Strunk on January 15, 2021 at 7:39 am said:

    Imagine nit onky using FBI briefings to inform yourself, but admitting it publicly as the justification for criticising your own people.

    Not just FBI briefings, Doctor Strunk. McCarthy also consulted CNN clips and had an earnest conversation with Wolf Blitzer.

  17. Pete – those videos have no standing. They should have been shown before the riots. If you show those videos, it will destroy faith in our government…

  18. MO, I dont see how the GOP leadership survives the next elections. Surely the 10 traitorous slobs that stood in the slop with the reprobates in voting for another impeachment circus are through.

    Trump maintained the loyalty of 90% of the 47 million peiple that voted for him. That’s astounding.

  19. smh, I’d bet my next paycheck we will be seeing many more Antifa instigators being doxxed in the next few days.

    These slobs never, ever operate alone.

  20. I don’t have to have anything, Emery. Unlike yourself, I have taken the easily defended position that no one knows who initiated the riots & what their motives were. Easily defended because it is the truth.
    Maybe you could convince us with some more made-up Trump quotes?
    Personally I think the MAGA guys who were undercover antifa were balanced by the antifa guys that were under cover MAGA.
    And behind them all? The Czar’s secret police.

  21. There’s a lot to think about this month.

    Yes Mitch. It was just a couple posts ago you, yourself, said Trump was complicit.

  22. Woolly— do you think your future bride is preparing an intervention for you on Kona?

  23. Tard Joe, I am in fact calling you dumb. You have that right, I will own that. I’m saying that what you say is dumb, and that you’re dumb for saying it.

  24. The inability to recognize or acknowledge reality seems to be a core SiTD requirement these days.

  25. Somehow I suppose it is people on the Left, not the Right, who are most interested in what happens to “the Q-Anon Shaman.”

    I take no position on whether the election was stolen from Trump, or on what caused the riots in DC on January 6th, Or what groups they did or did not belong to.
    It is foolish to do otherwise.

  26. 10:16 translated:

    “You’re dumb. Just just a big old dummy. Not smart like me. I’m so smart.”

  27. @dr asshat Swiftee:

    Trump approval at 29%
    Lowest of his presidency.
    (Pew Research)

    Seems a bit high….

  28. Tard Joe, if you want to post some links that discuss the cardboard over the windows and the software updates to the voting machines, I’ll step up to a somewhat respectful conversation about the merits of that stuff.

  29. Wow – how great is it, that in a country that prides itself on the justice system, and everyone having representation, that DJT cannot get a lawyer. What a cause for celebration. I’m sure there’s a public defender available – oh wait, they can exercise their right of association and not represent him? That seems fair and equitable.

  30. ^ smh: I should let Tard Joe the lawyer answer this, but… here goes… these are civil actions where the Trump campaign is the plaintiff. You don’t get public representation for that. You’re starting with a category error here in furtherence of an inane point
    .
    I am astonished at the political and legal illiteracy of the commentariat here at SiTD, by fellas who come back and insist they are the ones with all this worldliness.

    You guys are commonly stupid.

  31. Whatever happened to Jones Day?

    Several major firms have ceased representing Trump because they’re unwilling to incur reputational damage. Make transparently specious arguments in public, present mortifyingly meretricious cases in court and thereby jettison their patriotism.

    Also because: He doesn’t pay his bills.

  32. “well bwar har har gehar gehar gehar, I snark at the irony of Donald Trump not having lawyer representation cuz thread comment thread comment thread comment.”

    JFC you guys are dumb.

  33. 11:08 translated

    “Let’s play a game. I’ll make the rules. Because I’m smart, not stupid like you.”

  34. Tard Joe the Lawyer, why doesn’t Donald Trump have public representation for his election challenges?

  35. 11:53

    “You’re stupid. None of my friends can talk to you or else they can’t be my friends anymore. Because you’re stupid. Not smart like me.”

  36. Tard Joe

    John “Dice” Kraephammer wheels out a retro rhetorical approach, first perfected on middle school playgrounds circa 1977.

    Dice has upped his standards, Joe. Up yours, he suggests.

  37. This is what happens when Trump loses 64 court cases in 4 months, refuses to pay lawyers and the banks stop doing business with you.

    Time to go pro se Donald. It’ll work out great. Always does.

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