To: Mike Lindell, Likely Gubernatorial Candidate
From: Mitch Berg, Irascible Conservative Peasant
Re: Love Your Pillows. Don’t Love Your Rhetoric.
Mike,
For someone who wants to represent the party of liberty, the rule of law as opposed to the rule of men, and rationality, this is a really terrible look:
Look @dougducey you made the list and your crooked buddy @BrianKempGA! @realDonaldTrump please impose martial law in these 7 states and get the machines/ballots! https://t.co/GXWkRtHlRW
— Mike Lindell (@realMikeLindell) December 20, 2020
Now yes, you did delete the tweet – but nobody’s fast enough to get past the DFL’s oppo researchers and media. But I repeat myself.
Berg’s 16th Law exists for a reason. While a prominent elected Democrat can beat the snot out of his girlfriend with impunity, anything rash, impudent, ill-timed, context-mangled or yes, stupid, said by any Republican, anywhere, no matter how fringe, how isolated from power or the mainstream (which doesn’t describe Lindell, obviously), will be reported to the widest audience possible, in the least flattering context that can be engineered, and held against the entire part.
Love the pillows, Mike – but think.
That is all.
Speaking intemporately is what got Trump elected in 2016.
True.
Not sure Lindell is Trump or, more importantly, that MN is America.
Also – there’s “intemperate” and there’s “diving headfirst into personality cultism”.
I think there was rampant corruption (more later). Is it worth crossing the Rubicon that martial law would be?
Is this the very same Mike Lindell that promoted Oleandrin the snake oil Covid cure?
Oleandrin should protect against Covid-19 as long as it’s administered with
hydroxychloroquine and a chaser of disinfectant.
Poor President Trump. He seems to have such trouble finding scientifically credible people for his efforts. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: COVID is killing us because stupid got here first.
Mitch: You wonder if Trump crossing the Rubicon is the right thing to do. My opinion is that it’s what he is legally and oath bound to do. This election has been a coup by those opposed to Trump. If he doesn’t cross it, the Constitution he swore to protect and defend is gone (if it isn’t already).
I think he’s watching to see what happens in the courts and Congress. I think he didn’t fully appreciate the depth of rot, and keeps getting pushed closer and closer to crossing. I think that if he doesn’t, the violence that happens will be exponentially worse than if he did.
Don’t forget the most important qualification, Mitch.
Has Lindell worked as a public school gym teacher?
At this point anyone who counsels acquiescence to the Biden campaign is counseling appeasement in the very best Neville Chamberlain tradition and deserves to be repeatedly and pointedly reminded of their personal culpability every time they whinge about the Biden administration for the next 4 years.
I’m tempted to become a delegate again just so I can fervently *oppose* Lindell’s endorsement for MN governor.
Oh SMH? You hitting the streets in your pickup with a big Trump flag to wage violence with your similarly equipped pickup if he doesn’t declare martial law? Something you are hooked into you can tell us about? Please, elaborate.
Give me an effing break.
Now, the regard you give Trump for brainpower is really over the top. But it’s right to understand even he knows a successful “martial law” is dependent on having a substantially sized clique of generals to take and enforce the orders. This is not a thing that would happen. Generals are not going to take this order. the judiciary is not going to take this order. Trump and his top sycophant side kick with these fantasies, say its Flynn, they know this. And thus, there will be no order for Martial Law.
Joe Biden is going to be President, and there will be no riots etc.
If I have my history right, Caesar’s crossing of the Rubicon was followed by years of civil war, then Caesar’s assassination, then more civil war. The Roman republic was never restored, and Rome became thereafter a military dictatorship.
So maybe pick a better metaphor.
Plotting a military coup seems like the kind of behavior that impeachment and removal were invented for.
Trump won if you don’t count the Fifteenth Amendment.
That would be a stretch goal around here, that the crew of Trump misanthropes master proper use of idiom when they wishcast for a civil war.
Max O: Ceasar crossing the Rubicon happened after the Senate had told him that once he was out of office, that they would persecute him. He saw no other choice. Kind of similar in that aspect.
John K: Yup, you figured it out. That’s exactly how it’s going to happen. As far as what I’m hooked into, it’s nothing special. It’s listening and hearing what people are saying. I have no idea who you are, and I don’t really care. I’m not inciting for people to riot – that’s what people are feeling. But, if your only interaction with people of differing mindsets is limited to jumping in and screeching, you likely wouldn’t know that.
And I’ll say it again — if “saving the Republic” requires Trump as prez, we are already screwed.
If Trump is prosecuted after he leaves office, the Dems will pay a very heavy political price for it — including JD indictments for defeated Dem politicians the next time the GOP gains the presidency.
SMH, where? Where do you hear that?
Let’s bet on it SMH. You take the Trump / martial law side, I’ll take the Biden is President and life goes on side. You must be able to take this bet, what with your deep wisdom and confidence in the ‘things you’ve heard.’
… It’s not my only interaction, I am thoroughly hooked into the real world and have a sensible adult civics education. I don’t comment here often because it’s below me, intellectually, by a couple orders of magnitude. I’m not bragging when I say that. It’s just reality. Like, you’re here, for instance… a guy who seriously thinks Trump is going to call martial law and that it will stick. There’s usually no arguing with that kind of stupidity.
Mitch ought to be embarrassed that you comment here.
We haven’t even reached peak Trump desperation. I think it’s only a matter of time until we hear more delusional ranting from him and his followers.
There are a significant number of D reps from districts that Trump carried. I winder what Pelosi & Biden are hearing from them about plans to prosecute Trump after he leaves office?
The Dems who don’t have to worry about losing their phoney-baloney jobs are the ones most eager to prosecute an ex-president trump (this includes Democrat & #nevertrumper RINO pundits).
“I think it’s only a matter of time until we hear more delusional ranting from him and his followers.”
Big words from the dude who said the Brexit referendum would fail, that Hillary would win over Trump in 2016 by a landslide, and who fell for the “Russian collusion” fraud perpetrated by Hillary & Andy Weisman.
I’ll bite on your thread jack
A Federal prosecution of Trump would only keep him in the spotlight. The healthiest thing for our country is for him to fade into obscurity. The media can help by not amplifying his every crazy tweet.
However, if the state and local authorities in New York can prove a crime, and he is found guilty of a felony on that level, then he is prohibited from mounting another reelection campaign in 2024.
including JD indictments for defeated Dem politicians the next time the GOP gains the presidency
Max, if demoncRats are allowed to get away with stealing this election, THERE WILL BE NO SECOND CHANCE. Sorry for all caps, but it seems you are missing the point.
BTW, what is so wrong about being passionate and requesting the truth and rightousness to prevail? Or at least make sure there was no fraud? Get off the MN nice bandwagon – look where it got you!
“However, if the state and local authorities in New York can prove a crime, and he is found guilty of a felony on that level, then he is prohibited from mounting another reelection campaign in 2024.”
That is an admission that any such prosecution would be political, e.g., would be pursued to achieve a political goal, not a law enforcement goal.
Trump getting prosecuted is a desire of the very progressive online left, and it’s a feature of their literal socialist revolution fantasies where they wish for show trials and reconciliation tribunals. Online left is loud, but not as powerful as people think. The show trial fantasy is not something that exists so much for institutional Democrats like Joe Biden, and you’re not going to get a radical AG that would pursue it.
Trump was a dishonest businessman who filed fraudulent taxes probably every year for a period of decades. It’s going to be a heavy lift for the judiciary to open that up and prosecute it successfully, as will be any claim of monetary self dealing Trump might have committed during his term. Maybe they’ll be a settlement as a result of the audit process, but he’s not being prosecuted, it’s too difficult and provocative, and Joe Biden isn’t interested.
We’re moving on, as we should.
Your comment is predicated on the belief that all of Trump’s criminal activities could not be effectively prosecuted in a court of law.
So why is Trump himself considering pre-emotive pardons for himself and his family?
When Trump pardons people pre-emptively, he’s essentially telling the public that these people have committed crimes. We may not be aware of what they are, but the pardon is clear evidence that crimes have been committed.
When Mitch first asked the question, I had to admit, it caused me to soberly reflect on the consequences of such a bold move. It would be the end of the republic as we know it.
Then I read the comments from the cheaters smugly confident they got away with it and certain nobody has the backbone to do anything about it. You know what? Cross the damned thing. Let me know where and when to show up. I may not be young and fit enough to charge into battle but I can tie blindfolds, light cigarettes and pull the trigger when traiters go up against the wall.
You don’t need Trump’s order for that Joe. You could march into St. Paul now with your exurb’s collection of doughy, pathetic early sixties MAGA men and try to seize their voting machines for examination. Take some initiative eh. There’s principle at stake.
JD, do you believe Trump would be wise to avoid advocating prosecution of presidential families for federal tax crimes?
JD – I’ve spent over a month pondering that question. For me, after a lot of thought, it comes back to the document that came prior to the Constitution.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident…That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government”
The consent of the Governed is what gets me – that is the vote. When that’s taken away (the vote), the consent goes with it. So, where to from there? I think that’s everyone’s personal choice. And, not a good idea to share publicly.
John K: wouldn’t it be criminal for you to bet me, seeing as how I’m not nearly as smart or worldly as you? I’d take the bet, but have no desire to meet you to collect it.
Mitch: My sincere apologies for the embarrassment I’ve caused you be posting here.
^ no… it wouldn’t be criminal for you to bet me just because you’re a stupid man.
Lets have a virtual bet. We’ll keep analyzing it until the inauguration, and see where it goes.
👆They’ll latch on to increasingly absurd and bizarre fictions in an effort to preserve the mythical status of their Dear Leader.
“We accept the reality of the world with which we’re presented.” ~ The Truman Show.
Over the past year, leftist reprobates have:
~Burned cities down
~Looted
~Given official documents to citizens of foreign countries here illegally to allow them to vote
~Released citizens of foreign countries here illegally from jail after committing violent crimes to protect them
~Shredded the Bill of Rights
~Cratered the US economy
~Put millions of people out of work
~Assaulted elderly people
~Killed people
~Stole an election in plain sight
~Made being Caucasian a crime
But hey, that My Pillow Guy is over the top, isn’t he?
It’s good that the reprobates are putting their boots on our necks; we need it. Sooner or later, we might object, as long as it’s OK with everyone else.
John Kraphammer blurted: ” I don’t comment here often because it’s below me, intellectually, by a couple orders of magnitude.”
Despite zero scientific evidence they are effective, and plenty of quantitative data they are not, I’ll bet you don’t go anywhere without your face diaper, do you John?
Of course you don’t, because you’re scary smart.
Don’t you have a klan meeting to be at Swiftee?
“You could march into St. Paul now…”
In which John K. demonstrates his lack of understanding of asymmetrical warfare and why it will decidedly NOT be a cakewalk.
If American citizens are forced to take to the streets to take back the nation, they won’t be marching. They won’t be wearing uniforms. They won’t be driving in a convoy or saluting or following rules of war. A lot of us learned the lessons from Vietnam, the Gulf Wars and from Afghanistan. This time, the shoe will be on the other foot. We will be the insurgents battling the big green machine.
You thought Fallujah was bad. Those guys couldn’t strike at our soldiers’ homes, their wives and kids. Those guys couldn’t strike at our local politicans, sheriffs, chiefs of police. Those guys couldn’t blow up our bridges, destroy our electric distribution plants, derail our trains, shoot down our aircraft, plant rumors of poisoned water supplies. Those guys couldn’t institute roving roadblocks to randomly harass travelers and hijack food trucks. And don’t even get me started on IEDs and sniping. Anybody who hunts deer from a tree stand already has the weapon and understands the principles of being a sniper; now it’s just a matter of selecting the target.
Look, there are only about 2 million US troops, active and reserve. At least 25% of them are admin pogues, JAG officers and Puzzle Palace paperpushers who won’t be humping an M4 through Minneapolis. Assuming the US military can field 1.5 million trigger pullers, you’ll only be outgunned 10 to 1. Oh, perhaps you didn’t know – last year, there were 15 million hunting licenses issued in this country, every one of them by definition willing and able to pull the trigger. Even if 90% of all hunters sit out the fight, that still leaves you in a one-on-one fight with an insurgent enemy. And I’m willing to bet a bunch of your 1.5 million troops will lose their enthusiasm for killing Americans right quickly, partricularly if doing so puts their own families at risk.
Sure, the government has jets and helicopters and tanks and machine guns. They had all that in Afghanistan, too. So did the Russians. Fat lot of good it did them.
Best of all, we look like you, like the Lieutenants commanding the troops, like the politicians giving marching orders. We dress like you, talk like you, eat the same food and know who lost the football game on Sunday. We’re used to living in Liberal dominated society where we nod and smile and keep our opinions to ourselves. We work in every sector of government, of industry, and particularly in heavy trades and farming. You’ll never find all the spies and saboteurs. The more you tighten your grip, the more innocents will be harmed, the more rebels you create.
THAT is why miltary professionals are lying awake at night, hoping to God the President doesn’t have to order the military to help us preserve the union. Because if he does and they don’t comply, they will be arrested and shot as traitors. If they defy the President and try to lead troops against their own countrymen, they will see them annihilated.
Liberals have long maintained the Second Amendment was never intended for ordinary civilians to have military grade weapons to fight off a tyrannical government. They are mistaken. That’s exactly what it was intended for. Let’s all hope to God we don’t have to use them.
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Thanks for your concern John, but we meet on Friday nights.
So, how about that face diaper? You sporting it, sport, or nah? What is your vast intellect directing you to do? Your leadership (scary smart, naturally) is saying we’ll all die if we don’t wear a rag, but there is not one controlled, peer reviewed study that proves that (never tried one, probably), and thousands of diligent, scary smart people (like you) have contracted the Rona despite never going anywhere without the face diaper…so we’re all waiting for you guidance.
BTW…the name’s Strunk; Pete Strunk, glad to meet ya.
“Best of all, we look like you, like the Lieutenants commanding the troops, like the politicians giving marching orders. We dress like you, talk like you, eat the same food and know who lost the football game on Sunday.”
By their superior intellect shall we know them, right away.
Joe Doakes, its fantasy and delusion. Me not taking seriously your fantasy and delusion doesn’t mean I don’t understand combat, or tactics, or history, yada yada yada.
Berg you should be ashamed at this point that you attract the nutjobs you do in your comment threads.
Oh, and hey John?
Bill Gates and several leftist bight lights have said black people should be vaccinated right after medical staff. A leftist Professor (genuflect) of medical ethicswent so far as to say white, elderly people should go last to, and I quote, “level the playing field a little”. https://nypost.com/2020/12/19/professor-gets-heat-after-saying-whiter-elderly-should-wait-for-vaccine/
We National Socialist/Klan right wing types think that smacks of overt racism…racism and face diapers…what say you, Sifu?
Swiftee, such that you want an answer and that it means anything… if I have to get into retail places, I wear a mask. Same as anyone else as anyone else on this thread in Minnesota.
While I wait for my previous comment to clear the censors, I wonder if the people in Ukraine ever believed they’d be fighting the mighty Red Army for their freedom, or the people of Romania against their dictator, because they were as versed in combat, history, tactics yada yada as our resident leftist intellectual, were they taken completely by surprise? Did the Chechen’s?
It’s fantasy and delusion to a person so smugly confident of easy victory that he cannot imagine the alternative. 150 years ago, you’d have been one of the people bringing a picnic lunch to Manassas to watch the Union defeat the rebels.
JD: Yes, 4GW is going to be messy. However, the scenario you laid out appears to be a Biden martial law (Scenario A). If Trump does something (Scenario B), it’s going to be tied to his 2018 EO. It won’t be all the military, more likely JSOC units going out to arrest folks for election fraud, and tribunals. State National Guard federalized for riot control, with different ROE than when activated by the Governor. There will be riots, and there will be burning.
There will be blood in both scenarios. A will be bloodier than B. If, through levels of stupidity never before seen, Joe invites in the UN to help out (Scenario A Minus), it will go from bloody to oceans of blood. In Scenario B, the military is there to uphold the rule of law. And it will be lawful per the Constitution.
So John, you wear a diaper on your face to engage in commerce. But do you do it because you cannot come up with an alternative, or because you think it’s the right thing to do?
Because complying with a command one believes is made on bad faith is not something intelligent people do when they have an alternative, it’s the act of a mindless herd animal.
We have not been ordered to wear diapers on our faces by our state leadership (rednecks, what are ya gonna do, right?), but all of the major chain stores have prominent signage at the door informing us we cannot go in without one. I have never, not once put a mini Depends on my face; I simply refuse because I have looked into it, and concluded they are worthless.
I was once challenged, and thanked them and took my commerce elsewhere…but I’m not very smart, so it wasn’t a surprise to anyone.
So again John, do you wear a ridiculous diaper on your face just to buy some stuff, or is it what smart, intellectually superior people do?
150 years ago, you’d have been one of the people bringing a picnic lunch to Manassas to watch the Union defeat the rebels.
Ouch
See Joe, you’re having this fantasy debate over the pedantic details of guerilla combat and land war with some fantasy debate opponent where you make all sorts of assumptions and put words in their mouth and respond to those words and think you’re “debating” and winning that debate.
I make no claim as to what damage you pasty lard ass 62 year olds will or won’t do when you assemble for Trump with your Bushmasters in your town square for your MAGA war. No claims at all.
I’m saying it ain’t going to happen because it’s mostly a delusional fantasy. And I’m saying Trump won’t declare martial law to take the ballot machines, and I’m saying Joe Biden will be inaugurated 3rd week of January, and that’s that.
Swiftee, you also are choosing to have a debate with a fantasy debate opponent, with your topic being face masks, where you axe grind and think you’ve won debate points.
I’m a COVID mitigation skeptic. But you feel free to assert that I feel this or that way, and that you’ve rebutted me and won. I don’t care.
I’m saying Trump won’t declare martial law to take the ballot machines, and I’m saying Joe Biden will be inaugurated 3rd week of January, and that’s that.
I don’t think Trump will declare martial law either. But not because it’s not warranted, but because he can see people have not reached the line yet. Everyone knows we have witnessed a bold theft of our election, but decent, working people still think there’s more to lose than gain..kind of like intellectually superior people that put diapers on their faces to buy some bread.
But I’m not quite sure Sniffin’ Joe will take the prize yet. Every time a US court refuses to hear a fraud case on a technicality, despite plenty of evidence, more people realize there is no law. When enough people realize their homes, jobs and family security rests on a house of cards no more secure than an Iranian court, things could very easily get nasty.
We’re in a cold civil war right now. At this point, all it would take is one group to take a stand, and the avalanche will roll. Maybe it will happen after people are arrested for violating Sniffin’ Joe’s promised mask mandate…I really believe we are that close.
John, it’s Strunk: Pete Strunk. Glad to meet ya.
I’m a COVID mitigation skeptic. But you feel free to assert that I feel this or that way, and that you’ve rebutted me and won.
Ah, so you lack the conviction your vastly superior intellect directs to you to. You know the face diaper is politically driven BS, but you don’t have the balls to simply say “no”. No wonder you cannot see any eventuality where people move to overthrow a corrupt government. I wonder what an epic IQ is worth to a man to craven to invoke it?
^ I was fairly modest in praise of my own intellect. Its that you guys are dead end morons