The Dems’ impeachment mania is a sign, not of Dem strength, and certainly not necessarily of offenses warranting nullifying an election (and maybe two), but rather a sign of desperation and weakness.
Victor Davis Hanson:
Aside from the emotional issue that Democrats, NeverTrumpers, and celebrities loathe Donald Trump, recently Representative Al Green (D-Texas) reminded us why the Democrats are trying to impeach the president rather than just defeat him in the 2020 general election.
“To defeat him at the polls would do history a disservice, would do our nation a disservice,” Green said. “I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach the president, he will get re-elected.”
Translated, that means Green accepts either that Trump’s record is too formidable or that the agendas of his own party’s presidential candidates are too frightening for the American people to elect one of them. And that possibility is simply not permissible. Thus, impeachment is the only mechanism left to abort an eight-year Trump presidency—on a purely partisan vote to preclude an election, and thus contrary to the outlines of impeachment as set out by the Constitution.
It’d explain a lot of the Democrat tactics; declining to hold hearings, relying on “evidence” gleaned from the results of their changes to the law permitting pure hearsay, and fighting the battle almost exclusively in media aimed at their three most important opinion constituencies; Entitled Americans, Dim Americans and Outrage-Addicted Americans.
Hanson has a lot of analysis – read it. Pullquote:
We are starting to see the outlines of a progressive fantasy on the horizon: Biden will be sacrificed. The party will unite around Warren. The left-wing media narrative will be, “We took out one of our own, now it is your turn to depose Trump.” Chaos overload for two or three weeks might keep Trump’s polling low.
Long-term, however, Trump wins.
We still have a number of government audits coming from Michael Horowitz, John Durham, and John Huber—and the targets are not Trump. The Senate will not convict the president under any foreseeable circumstances. The full story of the whistleblower has not been told, but there are a lot of narratives to come about the sudden rules allowing hearsay, DNC involvement, and who knew far in advance about the complainant’s writ. Once the Democratic debates continue, the candidates’ screaming and hysterics return, and the impeachment hearings descend into a Kavanaugh-esque farce, the public will begin to get scared again by the Left’s shrieking Jacobins…Voters soon will surmise that the only thing between their 401k plans and socialism is Donald J. Trump.
And they’ll be right.
My hunch: Dem polling is showing that even the more “moderate” Democrats terrify Main Street, and there are no other options coming out of the woodwork, and their base will having nothing but a Trump inquisition, so this is the best way forward they have.
It’s not about evidence. It’s about having “Disgraced and Impeached” as a chanting point for 2020.
Jonathan Turley writes at The Hill The problem of impeachment is no shortage of scandals on both sides
Greg, I popped over to the Hill just now; guess what was waiting for me?
Ninth woman accuses Al Franken of inappropriate contact
While being photographed with Franken, who was then still exploring his eventual 2008 run for Senate, the woman said he placed his hand on her buttocks.
“He’s telling the photographer, ‘Take another one. I think I blinked. Take another one.’ And I’m just frozen. It’s so violating. And then he gives me a little squeeze on my buttock, and I am bright red. I don’t say anything at the time, but I felt deeply, deeply uncomfortable,” the woman told the publication.”
lmao
This, like the Mueller investigation, is going to blow up in the dems faces. Trump is the road runner and Dems are Wile E. Coyote at this point. That is the best analogy I can come with at this point.
PoD;
Great analogy. Those “Acme” products don’t any better for the Dems than they do for the coyote.
DOH! “don’t WORK any better”.
Really an all-star team of confused yelling.
Really an all-star team of confused yelling.
Emery sniveling because the bathhouse is too crowded and he had hoped for a romantic evening.
^^ You are close to reaching self awareness. Yet so unbelievably far.
Rudy Giuliani gets hold of a bogus conspiracy theory. He sells it to Trump who hires him to pursue it. The Ukrainians are reluctant so Trump ropes in Barr, withholds arms support, and leans on the president of Ukraine for a “favor”. Pursuit of a non-story leads to impeachment.
The Irony is too rich for a second serving.
Emery talking about irony… Im out. This is too easy.
The more Democrats talk about Trump asking the Ukrainians to investigate corruption involving Biden, the more the rank-and-file will associate Biden with corruption. This “scandal” isn’t aimed solely at Trump.
JD: You’re leaving out the “abuse his office” part. Like calling on a foreign country to start an investigation, especially by coercion.
If you were advising a client accused of abusing his office by calling for criminal investigation of his political foes, I suspect you’d probably tell him not to go on Twitter and call for the criminal investigation of his political foes. But lawyers are controlling like that.
Come get your dude, he’s lost it.
“Like every American, I deserve to meet my accuser, especially when this accuser, the so-called “Whistleblower,” represented a perfect conversation with a foreign leader in a totally inaccurate and fraudulent way. Then Schiff made up what I actually said by lying to Congress” ~ Donald Trump
Emery’s lost in the back of the short bus again, someone go fish him out.
Someone save Emerys comment and post it for him on election night next year. Mitch?
Traditional First Rule of campaigning – never say your opponent’s name, say “My Opponent.” Why? To keep his name out of the public mind.
Trump’s First Rule of campaigning – always say your opponent’s nickname. Why? To reinforce it in the public mind.
Every time Liberals reproach Trump for asking Ukraine to investigate Biden’s Corruption, they reinforce the linkage in the public mind between Biden and Corruption.
I expect Trump to give Biden the nickname “You-crane Joe” any day now.
The Republicans would be acting wisely if they persuaded South Carolina, Nevada, Arizona and Kansas to to reverse the cancellations of their Primaries.
You-Crane Joe shutting down an investigation into his son’s corruption:
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/24/watch-joe-biden-brag-about-bribing-ukraine-to-fire-the-prosecutor-investigating-his-sons-company/
I dont think we have to worry about those people listening to the advice of Emery.
Emery can you tell me what Trump primary candidate has any significant support in the Republican party? Like even 5%?
And we come to the part of the story where the Kremlin literally pays the president’s lawyer.
Giuliani cancels paid appearance next week at Kremlin-backed conference
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/giuliani-set-to-make-paid-appearance-next-week-at-kremlin-backed-conference/2019/09/27/a15ab242-e133-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html
WaPo… the paper Jeff Bezos kept alive and now owns 100% of. Why not just go with Media Matters Emery?
And he backed out so they didnt pay himn, can you comprehend stories Emery>
You-Crane Joe relates his trip to Ukraine in 2018:
“I remember going over, convincing our team … that we should be providing for loan guarantees. … And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from President Petro Poroshenko and from Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t. …
“They were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, … we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, ‘You have no authority. You’re not the president.’ … I said, call him. I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. … I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”
You-Crane Joe on Jimmy Kimmle last week:
“The idea that someone would call a head of a foreign state, withhold significant aid when they badly need it to hold the Russian separatists in Ukraine from taking over Ukraine, and then ask, basically, to, can you cooperate with Rudy Giuliani coming over … I mean, it’s such a blatant abuse of power that it’s, it just, I don’t think it can stand.”
Dunning_Kruger couldn’t make this shit up.
You-Crane is toast. The autistic wing of the reprobate party could care less about the old creep, and they’ll screech until the DNC sends him packing. That leaves Fauxcahontas as the choice…
The reprobates will certainly vote to impeach Trump, but take a moment to consider the circus Trump will convene; the man is the undisputed master of public spectacle. You can bet the farm he’ll drag You-Crane and his 1/4 wit son in to testify, along with every other nut case within subpoena range. It will be EPIC.
Then comes Fauxcahontas…
Barring the (not a) chance the Senate votes to remove Trump, this debacle will guarantee Trump a second term.
And yet Emery, Biden was caught on tape, while serving a VPOTUS, actually bragging about blackmailing a foreign leader by withholding aid funds and getting a Ukrainian prosecutor, investigating his and his son’s criminal acts, fired. That’s real proof, hypocrite boy.
And, which POTUS looked the other way when Russia took over Ukraine and Crimea, started two wars to affect regime change at Hillary’s urging, without congressional approval, then gave another foreign dictator, a sworn enemy of the U.S. $1.5 billion? Of course, in the minds of you deluded and brainwashed lefties, Emery, that’s OK.
Irony would be for YOU to have your reputation ruined from lies, innuendo and hearsay.
Boss, are you gonna believe your lying eyes or what E has been told to propagate?
BH hes our mascot at this point. D_K thinks he’s smart but we expose his lies and half-truths on a daily basis. Its actually a fun game.
Oh and Emery Im still not getting paid by Russia but can you talk to Putin for me? I’d love some of that sweet Russian Bot cash you think Im getting.
Can I go blab about stuff on cable TV then assert attorney/client or executive privilege over the same stuff if asked to testify?
Asking for a former mayor…
Just wait for the hearings Emery, this guy has taken on the mob and won. And was a sucessful REPUBLICAN Mayor of NYC, during 9/11. A hearing wont scare this guy, he’s going to tear them to shreds and make the Dems regret ever calling him up to testify.
^^ False equivalence is fun but I prefer seeking consistency with reality.
The most disturbing part of the call, in terms of Presidential competence, was the suggestion that anyone could rely on Rudy Giuliani for anything.
I think of the people scrambling to protect Trump at any cost, desperate, giving it everything they have, career and credibility on the line, all the time knowing that he will continue inexorably to make things worse for himself and for them, because that’s what he is.
Emery, you fell for the Russian Collusion hoax, hook, line, and sinker.
Empirical data (that unwelcome guest) shows that you are incapable of determining what is and what is not a conspiracy theory.
Tell us again how your subtle genius led you to buy MS at 23 dollars a share.
Emery, you mean like Obumbler’s former head of the IRS Lois Lerner, who claimed that she did not blacklist Conservative organizations, then plead the 5th when she was formally questioned?
And, funny! Bien’s minions have sent letters to all of the networks, literally demanding they they not book Giuliani on their shows. Me thinks crooked Joe protests too much. Biden is running scared, as many Democrat traitors are.
But hey, let the corrupt cabal of Democrats pushing impeachment, go for it. During the subsequent trial, Trump has wide latitude to subpoena and question people accusing him. If that trial does happen, get the popcorn ready, because the number of Democrats that turn on each other, should make for fun entertainment.
Face it Emery! The Dems will never actually vote to impeach Trump. They just keep the narrative going to keep their useful idiots like you, ginned up. They know and have actually stated, that their voters are lazy and/or stupid enough to believe whatever they are told by their propaganda machine.
Intuitively I would think this is a minor issue. He survived Mueller, prostitutes, fake construction sites, fake charities, countless cases of blatant lies and much worse.
Trump is what you get when the electorate doesn’t care if their president is a liar and a conman. They got what they deserve.
“then plead the 5th”
Point of order: pleading the Fifth is not evidence of culpability. It’s everyone’s right.
But the evidence that she (and the rest of that unit) did it was so utterly damning, it’s a non-issue.
“the suggestion that anyone could rely on Rudy Giuliani for anything.”
Other than cleaning up a city that was on the edge of social, financial and legal collapse?
Yeah. Complete bum.
Came to discussion late…D_K is already blowing bubbles in his milk.
It’s hard to defend Trump when he puts out a transcript of his own crime.
“Crime.”
You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Citation to code, please.
Emery,
“when he puts out a transcript of his own crime.”
specifically what crime is that?
USC=?
Is your google broke?
18 U.S. Code § 201. Bribery of public officials and witnesses
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201
Trump needs a defense against Ukrainegate. You can’t go around screaming ‘fake news’ and ‘witch hunt’ when you yourself put the evidence out there.
Perhaps it’s nothing that can’t be fixed with his magic sharpie.
The transcript shows no quid pro quo. Trump wouldn’t have released it if it did. The quid pro quo exists in the imagination of Democrats and TDS-addled goofs. Are you allowed to have all of your corruption forgiven if you run against a sitting prez? Didn’t this ball start rolling when Hillary’s Russia-sourced oppo research on Trump was used to justify wire taps on candidate Trump?
Woolly: Have you read the full un-redacted transcript of the 30 minute conversation?What you, me and everyone else has read is the incomplete transcript of the full conversation.
There is no “unredacted transcript.” Trump released a pseudo transcript made from multiple listeners who compared notes and their memories. That is how these things are done w/o using a recording, multiple listeners take notes, comparing written notes and memories, and assembling a pseudo-transcript afterwards.
Don’t spout off if you don’t know what you are talking about, Emery.
Still trying to process why they fought a weather map to the gates of Hell but just decided to release the transcript of Trump’s impeachable offenses.
D_K’s mind would wonder such things. Not exactly the sharpest knife on the tree or brightest bulb in the drawer is he (yes I know what I’m saying goddamnit)
Two things in stood out for me when I read the transcript and the complaint:
1) The conversation transcript seemed very short for a 30 minutes conversation, and 2) There was a mention of a word-for-word transcript which is obviously not what was put out.
So where are the missing 18–20 minutes? Watergate all over again.
I genuinely think at this point D_K is using this transcript as jack off material.
^^ You continue to demonstrate — time and time again — SiTD is not the Algonquin Round Table.
Emery comments on a “short” transcript of a 30 minute call, forgetting that not everybody in Ukraine speaks fluent English, and therefore there would be some pauses for translation. (yes, the President of Ukraine is fluent in English, but even so, it’s still good to have someone double checking the nuances, and of course translating for staffers who are not fluent in English)
Question for bikebubba: is hearsay when literally everyone hears you say it?