For those wanting to bash the American Right over the head with the recent spate of spree killings – the Dayton shooter, Connor Betts, would seem to be…
Betts was the lead singer in a band that worked in an intensely masochistic genre:
The man who killed nine and injured 27 in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, was the lead singer of a “pornogrind” metal band, a genre defined by its explicit subject matter and themes of gore and violence, specifically sexual violence and necrophilia, BuzzFeed News has learned.
The gunman, identified as 24-year-old Connor Betts, was a member of Menstrual Munchies, a three-person band that performed regularly in the Midwest death metal scene, recently appearing as one of the bands at the Summer Massacre 2 concert in Chicago on June 29.
Pornogrind is a subgenre of a fast and extreme kind of heavy metal called grindcore, which is known for its mostly dark, satirical themes of sexual violence and gore delivered for shock value.
Another, er, musician wrote
In a follow-up tweet, the band member running the account [of a band associated with Betts] described Betts as “another dime a dozen Ohio grind dude who caped progressive politics while treating women like shit.”
Oh, yeah – he supports Fauxcahontas.
Watch for the Dayton shooter to disappear down the memory hole – although his choice of firearm will remain.
You don’t have to solve — or even understand — complex moral, cultural, and social problems to reduce their lethality.
Are young men more alienated than they used to be? Who knows. What do about it? Nobody knows. Can we regulate weapons? Everybody else can.
Sounds like a incel to me. And I truly believe most incels are on the Left because they are mostly sissy beta males who have no backbone or drive othe than being a keyboard warrior and trying to be a male feminist to try and get laid.
I don’t think that “incel” is a real thing. I think it is a meme created by the media to bash the people on their shit list — white men. White men must be found to be the cause of every problem in the world.
Having an acute mental illness is a barrier towards integration with adult society.
Think of the reality, not the idea. Do you know any actual living person who is an “incel”? Are they normal other than this mysterious inability to have a girl friend? The idea is preposterous. You don’t have to be good-looking, or be smart, or have money or ambitious to have a girlfriend. These guys aren’t living in a gulag. They are not “involuntarily celibate.”
All good point MP, I just see them as losers and you make a good point, if they really wanted sex all theyd have to do is pay a hooker. I have no idea how this started but its funny to me honestly.
This is not about gun violence. The 293 murders in gun-control heaven Chicago (so far this year), are unmentioned by all of the pols and pundits who say that they are saddened or angered by the recent mass shootings.
This is about controlling the people the dems & media have decided are the “bad people” in America — and you know what? These “bad people” aren’t the poor and minority urban youth who kill each other and innocent bystanders with abandon and glee.
To the dems and the media, these “bad people” are the people who vote the way that they don’t want people to vote. The “bad people” responsible for gun violence in America are the people least likely to commit gun crimes — middle aged and older Republicans and especially NRA members. The Dems and the media want to put a target on their backs.
Again MP all good points. If black people started voting Republican at a 30-50% the Democrats would all of a sudden start doing something about inner city violence, instead of just saying it is somehow the racist Republicans fault even though we havent been elected in urban area with any regularity since WWII
I listen to a college Bluegrass station, it’s an NPR affiliate of course.
This morning David Green (God, I loath that dude) was speaking to some woman in El Paso (in hushed tones) who was describing all the vigils & memorials, relating all the sadness of the families…almost brought a tear to my eye until I realized they were completely ignoring the shooting in Dayton.
Even if you’d been in the jungle that last week, you’d know there was something amiss. The Dayton kid clearly had some thing going that NPR didn’t want to talk about…so the people he killed don’t matter.
Colin Noir speaks
My step-grandfather’s response to me being stupid would be to say “you’re sick, man, sick.” I don’t know precisely where we draw the line, but maybe, just maybe, there are significant numbers of people who need to hear this. There seems to be a wide gulf between, say, Iron Maiden and a band seemingly celebrating murderous rape with visual and auditory cues. Maybe club owners need to be told “you can host this band, or you can have my business, but not both.”
It’s tiresome that some Liberals keep making the same, thoroughly debunked, easy to ridicule, claims about US gun violence.
Lots of nations have mass shootings. We’re not the worst. We’re not even top 10, more like 60th (depending on how you manipulate the statistics).
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/mass-shootings-by-country/
If banning guns were the solution, England wouldn’t have needed a knife ban. https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
Complex moral, social and cultural issues caused the problem. Understanding them is how we must solve it. Failure to recognize that – and pinning vain hopes on silver bullet solutions – get more people killed.
The NRA says that they support “red flag” legislation, but the laws “at a minimum must include strong due process protections, require treatment and include penalties against those who make frivolous claims.”
This is a serious proposal. Only unreasonable people would oppose due process, mental health treatment, and frivolous filings of “red flag” laws, right?
So let’s separate the reasonable from the unreasonable people.
I would say that a person who makes a frivolous “red flag” claim against a spouse should forfeit child custody and other support claims. I mean, they are conspiring to deprive a citizen of his/her civil rights. That’s a serious crime. The spouse making the frivolous claim should be in Sing-sing.
jdm;
Thanks for that link.
Been a fan of Colion Noir for a while now. He gets it and always nails it!
In a former life, I was a divorce lawyer. Hey, I needed the money.
Feminists convinced the legislature that domestic abuse victims never lie, and that Orders for Protection would keep them safe, so the law was adopted allowing women to claim abuse on their word alone – no evidence, no corroboration, no witnesses, not even notice to the alleged offender (the “hearings” were ex parte, with only the victim and her non-attorney victim coaches from the feminist groups allowed to speak).
Judges, terrified that a woman might be hurt after being denied an Order for Protection, handed them out like Kleenex. Of course, being ordered not to abuse somebody isn’t going to stop them. So the Orders routinely ordered the husband not to come home, he’s banned from the family house. And since that’s where the kids are, Mom is granted sole custody. And since she has custody, he’s ordered to pay child support and provide health insurance. But since Dad is dangerous, he doesn’t get to see his kids, or only for a few minutes under supervision by a deputy sheriff.
OFP’s became summary divorces. Sure, you can object and litigate the issues in the divorce in a year or so, after the custody study which finds that you haven’t been a part of the children’s lives for a year, so therefore you’ve abandoned them and have lost your rights to see them.
It was sickening. It was routine. Everybody knew it but nobody could admit it because the harpies would screech “Abuse!”
Now let’s talk about red-flag laws, and the potential for abuse.
JD, to reinforce your point, Schlichter today wrote
“Dan (Crenshaw}, I was thinking this might be doable and then I watched a bunch of liberals chortling about how they intended to abuse it. What exactly, and I don’t mean clichés, are the due process protections you would put into place with said laws?
Be specific.